• Republican Senator McCain will return Tuesday for healthcare vote
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[url]https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-healthcare-mccain-return-idUSKBN1AA02O?il=0[/url] [quote]WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. Republican Senator John McCain, who has been recuperating in Arizona after being diagnosed with brain cancer, will return to Washington for a vote on healthcare reform on Tuesday, his office said in a statement on Monday. [/quote]
one would hope this would cause him to change his mind on rescinding healthcare from 20-32 million people
[QUOTE=Sableye;52503769]one would hope this would cause him to change his mind on rescinding healthcare from 20-32 million people[/QUOTE] Why would it? Members of Congress won't be impacted by the new healthcare law. They'll just keep the special version they have
[QUOTE=Sableye;52503769]one would hope this would cause him to change his mind on rescinding healthcare from 20-32 million people[/QUOTE] I have to wonder if brain cancer is a big enough wake up call for anyone who genuinely subscribes to "fuck you got mine" thinking. If he didn't think about it before, I have my doubts as to whether "holy fuck if I was a normal person in this same situation, I would be totally fucked without access to healthcare" would even cross the dude's mind.
There's something ironic about voting to rid millions of people of their healthcare after getting brain cancer
I would never have expected the diagnosis to keep him away or ever to shake up his positions. If there's one thing the man's got, it's conviction. [QUOTE]Near the end of his life, McCain’s father recalled those precious final moments together: “My father said to me, ‘Son, there is no greater thing than to die for the principles — for the country and the principles that you believe in.’ [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Chonch;52503956]I would never have expected the diagnosis to keep him away or ever to shake up his positions. If there's one thing the man's got, it's conviction.[/QUOTE] Except, y'know, all those times where he spoke out against Trump's actions then immediately about-faced to support him thus contradicting his own words.
[QUOTE=Chonch;52503956]I would never have expected the diagnosis to keep him away or ever to shake up his positions. If there's one thing the man's got, it's conviction.[/QUOTE] I would have said the same thing a year ago, but the last seven months have proven me wrong.
[QUOTE=Chonch;52503956]I would never have expected the diagnosis to keep him away or ever to shake up his positions. If there's one thing the man's got, it's conviction.[/QUOTE] there is no greater thing than to die for your principles of stripping health insurance from millions of americans
[QUOTE=FinalHunter;52503894]Why would it? Most Republicans believe you should get the quality of care that you can afford, not that people are entitled the best care just for existing.[/QUOTE] Idk, empathy maybe? I guess the idea is that it's easy to dismiss wanting access to healthcare as ~entitlement~ when you haven't faced a life threatening illness and required lifesaving care. But like I said, if he couldn't empathise with people too poor to afford medical treatment before he probably wont now. Imo the idea that healthcare should be based on wealth is absolutely abhorrent. Having grown up in a country with a national healthcare system, not to mention literally owing my life to the aforementioned system, I can barely wrap my head around the idea that a civilised country would even consider running on a system like the one in the US.
[QUOTE=FinalHunter;52503894]Why would it? Most Republicans believe you should get the quality of care that you can afford, not that people are entitled the best care just for existing.[/QUOTE] I guess if you can't afford a quality of care that can treat what's killing you, you can just go fuck yourself.
[QUOTE=Chonch;52503956]I would never have expected the diagnosis to keep him away or ever to shake up his positions. If there's one thing the man's got, it's conviction.[/QUOTE] It is amazing how completely wrong you are
[QUOTE=Chonch;52503956]I would never have expected the diagnosis to keep him away or ever to shake up his positions. If there's one thing the man's got, it's conviction.[/QUOTE] so much convinction that he lies and contradicts himself on a regular basis
he is literally not of sound mind
[QUOTE=Chonch;52503956]I would never have expected the diagnosis to keep him away or ever to shake up his positions. If there's one thing the man's got, it's conviction.[/QUOTE] Raw conviction doesn't mean shit unless you're standing up for something worth believing in, not robbing millions of Americans of healthcare in order to tow the party line.
[QUOTE=FinalHunter;52503894]Why would it? Most Republicans believe you should get the quality of care that you can afford, not that people are entitled the best care just for existing.[/QUOTE] health should not be a luxury in any developed nation.
While the healthcare vote isn't looking good for the GOP; I can't say for sure it won't pass. And that really fucking scares me.
[QUOTE=Crumpet;52504327]health should not be a luxury in any developed nation.[/QUOTE] I wonder, just how quickly people who consider access to health care a luxury would change their minds if they fell on hard times?. It's easy to get all righteously indignant and call people entitled when you aren't the one dying of a preventable condition because you can't meet the price tag someone else has slapped on your health, or even your life.
[QUOTE=fulgrim;52504575]I wonder, just how quickly people who consider access to health care a luxury would change their minds if they fell on hard times?. It's easy to get all righteously indignant and call people entitled when you aren't the one dying of a preventable condition because you can't meet the price of admission.[/QUOTE] I've always wondered, how is the central conservative tenet of making yourself and pulling up your bootstraps at all compatible with healthcare being a luxury? Surely being able to LIVE as healthily as any other is required to be as conscientious and driven as possible and advance in the system. The republicans have no consistent values it seems.
[QUOTE=FinalHunter;52503894]Why would it? Most Republicans believe you should get the quality of care that you can afford, not that people are entitled the best care just for existing.[/QUOTE] wheelchair-bound people "just exist" too. the blind "just exist". people with no arms and legs "just exist". should they just sack up like everyone else, or is plain bad luck only a good enough excuse for people whose misfortune you have to actually acknowledge? i have a chronic illness that denies me most jobs. i nearly dislocated something getting out of bed today and i may be in a wheelchair by the time i'm 30. but the only thing that separates me from everyone else who can't make ends meet on their own is that my problem is genetic, and theirs is purely down to people like you.
[QUOTE=Cone;52504754]wheelchair-bound people "just exist" too. the blind "just exist". people with no arms and legs "just exist". should they just sack up like everyone else, or is plain bad luck only a good enough excuse for people whose misfortune you have to actually acknowledge? i have a chronic illness that denies me most jobs. i nearly dislocated something getting out of bed today and i may be in a wheelchair by the time i'm 30. but the only thing that separates me from everyone else who can't make ends meet on their own is that my problem is genetic, and theirs is purely down to people like you.[/QUOTE] I don't think he was agreeing with that position.
yeah let's allow the guy with fucking [B]GBM brain cancer[/B] to vote on [B]a legally binding measure[/B] that effects virtually [B]everyone except this man and his party[/B] good job
[QUOTE=BelatedGamer;52504787]I don't think he was agreeing with that position.[/QUOTE] This is FinalHunter we're talking about so I'm fairly sure he actually supports the Republican view on healthcare.
[QUOTE=Alice3173;52504799]This is FinalHunter we're talking about so I'm fairly sure he actually supports the Republican view on healthcare.[/QUOTE] Well, that's certainly not unlikely. I [I]hope[/I] he wasn't agreeing with that position.
[media]https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/889798407228989441[/media] Absolute fucking cuntbag.
[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;52504863][media]https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/889798407228989441[/media] Absolute fucking cuntbag.[/QUOTE] I hate when anyone says stuff like this. The brave thing to do would have been stepping down immediately.
[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;52504863][media]https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/889798407228989441[/media] Absolute fucking cuntbag.[/QUOTE] Please, just for your conscious McCain, vote no.
[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;52504863][media]https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/889798407228989441[/media] Absolute fucking cuntbag.[/QUOTE] I thought Donald liked the ones that didn't get captured?
[QUOTE=Helix Snake;52505070]I thought Donald liked the ones that didn't get captured?[/QUOTE] How much he "likes" someone is directly tied to how useful they are to him at the present moment. Also the sky is blue.
[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;52504863][media]https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/889798407228989441[/media] Absolute fucking cuntbag.[/QUOTE] Fuck this guy
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