USA installs record amount of solar power – 191% growth – ignoring Trump’s Chinese Hoax
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[QUOTE]In the 3rd quarter of 2016, the United States installed 4,143 MW of solar power per a report released by Greentech Media’s Research Team – 191% greater than Q3’15. This volume represents the largest quarter in US history, even larger than the historically largest 4th quarters during the prior decade. Q1+Q2+Q3 of 2016 have already surpassed all of 2015’s total install amount. The 4th quarter is expected to be even larger – leading to all of 2016 to be 88% greater than 2015. It looks like Americans installing solar power and the Department of Energy are turning their nose up to Donald Trump’s Chinese Hoax.[/QUOTE]
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Good - maybe we can keep pushing against his bullshit and we don't have to just live in complete fucking dread.
It's almost like having a bad president doesn't destroy all hopes of your dreams
iirc like 75% of Americans do believe in climate change, which leads me to think neither candidate's campaign strategy was thought out at all
[QUOTE=A_Pigeon;51527983]It's almost like having a bad president doesn't destroy all hopes of your dreams[/QUOTE]
only most of them :(
[QUOTE=Cone;51527987]iirc like 75% of Americans do believe in climate change, which leads me to think neither candidate's campaign strategy was thought out at all[/QUOTE]
Even if they don't believe in climate change, those who install residential panels sure as hell believe in them solar rebates. :v:
[QUOTE=A_Pigeon;51527983]It's almost like having a bad president doesn't destroy all hopes of your dreams[/QUOTE]
don't worry he'll find a way to ruin it once he gets in
[QUOTE=Zero-Point;51528046]Even if they don't believe in climate change, those who install residential panels sure as hell believe in them solar rebates. :v:[/QUOTE]
Assuming those rebates still exist when Trump has had his way with them, that is.
[QUOTE=Cone;51527987]iirc like 75% of Americans do believe in climate change, which leads me to think neither candidate's campaign strategy was thought out at all[/QUOTE]
clinton didnt want to make it an issue since that 25% is usually strongly republican and she was trying to be a moderate, trump didnt bring it up because hes an idiot and as of now drowning in oil barrons. the media didnt make it an issue because they sold out to both campaigns instead of doing their fucking jobs.
[editline]14th December 2016[/editline]
if trump is elected, good bye compedative rates for renewables, its already happened in states that are deeply red where they for some reason decide that solar is only worth 1% of what gas is so they allow the electric companies to charge pennies on the dollar for the energy they buy from homeowners which basically makes solar completely nonviable as far as paying for itself
[QUOTE=Cone;51527987]iirc like 75% of Americans do believe in climate change, which leads me to think neither candidate's campaign strategy was thought out at all[/QUOTE]
Only ~20% of the American population voted for Trump.
[QUOTE=A_Pigeon;51527983]It's almost like having a bad president doesn't destroy all hopes of your dreams[/QUOTE]
Because Trump has had absolutely no influence in these matters . Once he is inaugurated he will have direct control of the EPA, his secretary of energy will be Rick Perry, and he will sign bills passed up by a Republican congress that cut subsidies to solar power
[QUOTE=Cone;51527987]iirc like 75% of Americans do believe in climate change, which leads me to think neither candidate's campaign strategy was thought out at all[/QUOTE]
This could be completely NON related to belief in climate change.
It could be a matter of $ only. If people see that they are going to recoup everything from here to 10 years and then start saving the $$$ on the energy bills, it will make this trend keep going on. More so if we take into account that perhaps in 2 years the OPEC and some other important countries go all nuts and raises the price of oil
All in all it is a good way to protect yourself from risk.
[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;51528087]Assuming those rebates still exist when Trump has had his way with them, that is.[/QUOTE]
Pretty sure the rebates in the US are at the state level.
Is this the liberal version of Democratic presidents causing increased gun sales?
State or local, some are even offered specifically by power companies. At least they do here.
He's not even president yet, he wouldn't have any effect on this until he takes the position.
the good news is that solar companies collectively have enough wealth and influence that they can actually start to lobby and counter the influence of oil and other fossil fuels
coal is on its last legs (and will likely cease to exist under trump), while natural gas and oil are slowly being pushed out of niches that solar is starting to take over
if trump listens to money, then maybe the solar lobbyists just need to say "jump!" while wagging a fistful of bills over trump and he asks "how high?"
You don't need to "believe" in climate change to see the potential savings with solar panels. My staunch conservative parents have been flirting with the idea if it wasn't for the high upfront and the fact they're likely downgrading homes soon.
Energy independence is a more lucrative selling point than stopping climate change
[QUOTE=AtomicWaffle;51528317]Only ~20% of the American population voted for Trump.[/QUOTE]
251 million people in voting age.
128 million votes.
A bit over half voted.
46.3% voted Trump, 48.2% Clinton.
"20% of population" is such a bullshit statistic.
I'm more amazed that people allowed those candidates to actually happen in the first place.
Aren't solar panels not actually that good for the environment after you factor in the heavy metals needed to create them and such?
[QUOTE=Svinnik;51529143]Aren't solar panels not actually that good for the environment after you factor in the heavy metals needed to create them and such?[/QUOTE]
The cost-benefit as far as environmental impact tapers off significantly after only a couple of years. So it's very much a net positive.
I'm very hopeful of the prospects of a solar energy future, the idea that these technologies are becoming more viable is both surprising and interesting. I hope it takes off and leads us towards a brighter future and especially interested in how the players in the field are going to play their cards and how they are going to go about increasing the reach for solar energy further.
Thankfully Solar Energy only has panels, the prospect of wind energy and water energy being used much more in the future is not as likely. But, hopefully the future contains solution to combat the negatives in these departments too.
[QUOTE=AtomicWaffle;51528317]Only ~20% of the American population voted for Trump.[/QUOTE]
bullshit
[URL="http://www.cnn.com/election/results/president"]http://www.cnn.com/election/results/president[/URL]
46.3 percent voted for him. Saying ~20% is a straight lie
[QUOTE=Svinnik;51529334]bullshit
[URL="http://www.cnn.com/election/results/president"]http://www.cnn.com/election/results/president[/URL]
46.3 percent voted for him. Saying ~20% is a straight lie[/QUOTE]
20% of the 330ish million people in the USA voted for trump (about 63 million voted for him)
he's correct
46% of the electorate voted for trump, but 20% of the population voted for trump
[QUOTE=AtomicWaffle;51528317]Only ~20% of the American population voted for Trump.[/QUOTE]
I really am blown away by how little support you need to win the election.
Apparently all you need to do is appeal to the political minority and bam, you're in.
[QUOTE=Svinnik;51529334]bullshit
[URL="http://www.cnn.com/election/results/president"]http://www.cnn.com/election/results/president[/URL]
46.3 percent voted for him. Saying ~20% is a straight lie[/QUOTE]
I was talking about the broader American population including those who didn't or couldn't vote, speaking to the fact that he really has little popular support in the truest sense.
[QUOTE=Code3Response;51529105]Energy independence is a more lucrative selling point than stopping climate change[/QUOTE]
Being environmental at this point is just good business
[QUOTE=A_Pigeon;51527983]It's almost like having a bad president doesn't destroy all hopes of your dreams[/QUOTE]
or a bad president forces people to make those dreams a reality before its too late
Solar panels won't die out any time soon. They save way too much money, and solar shingles are now cheaper than standard ones.
[QUOTE=AtomicWaffle;51531872]I was talking about the broader American population including those who didn't or couldn't vote, speaking to the fact that he really has little popular support in the truest sense.[/QUOTE]
Okay, so? Clinton has just about the exact same number, then,
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