• Republicans change the House rules
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[quote]Washington (CNN) - How a bill becomes a law is the educational building block of every American civics class. But as House Republicans take control of the House today, they will shift, ever so slightly, that civics lesson. First, all bills and joint resolutions submitted for approval will be required to have an accompanying statement explaining their Constitutional authority. Republicans and the members of the Tea Party have argued that Democrats regularly overreached the Constitutional powers granted to the House of Representatives and believe this rule will refocus legislative priorities. The new rules that will be adopted in the House Wednesday also reflect an understanding and an embrace of technology. Not only are Republicans seizing the use of electronic communication devices on the House floor – such as iPads and Blackberries – they are also encouraging the public's use of technology. Bills will be required to be posted online for 72 hours before they can come to a final vote, banning the practice of rewriting legislation shortly before it is to be voted on, so that all Americans have time to go online, read a bill and then lobby their member of Congress. Another major change in the rules affects the budget, specifically giving the chairman of the House Budget Committee greater authority to set spending limits. Pointing to Democrats' inability to pass a budget last year–a document that guides spending decisions for the fiscal year– Republicans are granting the new chairman, Rep. Paul Ryan of Wisconsin, the authority to set spending ceilings on his own if the House does not act. "Getting a grip on this year's spending is only the first step in addressing our long term budget challenges - but it's a step we must take, and we must take it now," Paul said in a statement. "Without a budget, the Federal government will continue to operate with no priorities and no restraints, while our fiscal and economic challenges continue to mount." In giving the Budget Committee chairman broader authority, Republicans are reverting to a rule that existed when they controlled the House in the 1990's. Still, Democrats view it as an unnecessary power grab. "Allowing incoming Chairman Ryan to have unilateral power to set spending limits – instead of subjecting those limits to a vote on the floor of the House – flies in the face of promises by House Republicans to have the most transparent and honest Congress in history," said Doug Thornell, spokesman for incoming House Budget Committee ranking member Chris Van Hollen (D-MD). "Unfortunately, the House GOP is reverting back to the same arrogant governing style they implemented when they last held the majority and turned a surplus into a huge deficit," he added.[/quote] [url]http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/01/05/republicans-change-the-house-rules/[/url]
[QUOTE]Another major change in the rules affects the budget, specifically giving the chairman of the House Budget Committee greater authority to set spending limits.[/QUOTE] Good.
Something's wrong. These sound like GOOD ideas!
[quote] Not only are Republicans seizing the use of electronic communication devices on the House floor – such as iPads and Blackberries – they are also encouraging the public's use of technology. Bills will be required to be posted online for 72 hours before they can come to a final vote, banning the practice of rewriting legislation shortly before it is to be voted on, so that all Americans have time to go online, read a bill and then lobby their member of Congress. [/quote] I...well... The Tea Party/Republican platform has my attention. Good game.
It was all fine until it came to the budget part. Seems they forgot the Democrats couldn't pass a budget because they were messing with it. Now they give their own guy greater power to force through a budget.
Well obviously this is all wrong because... Republicans?
Haha.
Oh Republicans, you greedy fucksickles
[QUOTE=Itsjustguy;27241097]Oh Republicans, you greedy fucksickles[/QUOTE] What? Seriously, what? Did you even read the article?
[QUOTE=Itsjustguy;27241097]Oh Republicans, you greedy fucksickles[/QUOTE] I love how you didn't read the op, it makes you look really smart.
Great, more bureaucratic bullshit that's just as bad as it was before.. Fuck the democrats, and fuck the republicans.
Wow, honestly wow. The Republicans have my attention. Let's see more of this and less about fighting Obama.
Another word for politics is bitching.
I like the 72 hour rule, but this makes me suspicious about how it will be used; a tiny wording change that doesn't actually make any substantive difference to a bill will be written over and over again, effectively blocking a bill. This would be easy than a simple filibuster and could be done by less people involved with it if one doesn't like a rewrite or whatever.
Now watch as they block access to Wikileaks on their network.
That 72 hour rule sounds rather nice.
[QUOTE=helpiminabox;27240881]Something's wrong. These sound like GOOD ideas![/QUOTE] Not all Republicans are bible thumping, ignorant red-necks afraid of change, black people and homosexuals. Oh, and Muslims.
[url]http://www.kansascity.com/2011/01/05/2562796/house-gop-ends-floor-voting-rights.html[/url] Yeah, the other thing they just did is take away the voting rights of representatives from the other American territories, thus denying 4.5 million Americans the right to representation in Congress. Also, surprise, all the representatives are Democrats or Independents. Imagine if the Democrats gained control of the House and the first thing they did was to revoke the voting rights of 5 Republicans and their respective constituencies.
[QUOTE=CodeMonkey3;27245172]Not all Republicans are bible thumping, ignorant red-necks afraid of change, black people and homosexuals. Oh, and Muslims.[/QUOTE] True but all the ones in the public eye seem to be.
Weird... The GOP is doing what they said they would.
I have mixed feelings about these changes. The 72-hour rule sounds like a decent change to make on the surface, but the budget-ceilings limit being in the hands of a single member of congress sounds a little too much like a concentration of powers.
[QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;27245254][url]http://www.kansascity.com/2011/01/05/2562796/house-gop-ends-floor-voting-rights.html[/url] Yeah, the other thing they just did is take away the voting rights of representatives from the other American territories, thus denying 4.5 million Americans the right to representation in Congress. Also, surprise, all the representatives are Democrats or Independents. Imagine if the Democrats gained control of the House and the first thing they did was to revoke the voting rights of 5 Republicans and their respective constituencies.[/QUOTE] If this hasn't got its own thread yet, I'm making one.
[QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;27245254][url]http://www.kansascity.com/2011/01/05/2562796/house-gop-ends-floor-voting-rights.html[/url] Yeah, the other thing they just did is take away the voting rights of representatives from the other American territories, thus denying 4.5 million Americans the right to representation in Congress. Also, surprise, all the representatives are Democrats or Independents. Imagine if the Democrats gained control of the House and the first thing they did was to revoke the voting rights of 5 Republicans and their respective constituencies.[/QUOTE] they can vote on who has the right to vote? what the fuck
[QUOTE=CNN]First, all bills and joint resolutions submitted for approval will be required to have an accompanying statement explaining their Constitutional authority.[/QUOTE] But wouldn't this be a bad thing for Republicans?
[quote]Pointing to Democrats' inability to pass a budget last year[/quote] wait hold on didn't the republicans purposefully gum up the works?
There's some good shit in there.
This.... This is the exact opposite of what I was expecting... Huh...
[quote]First, all bills and joint resolutions submitted for approval will be required to have an accompanying statement explaining their Constitutional authority.[/quote] Fucking finally.
[QUOTE=CodeMonkey3;27245172]Not all Republicans are bible thumping, ignorant red-necks afraid of change, black people and homosexuals. Oh, and Muslims.[/QUOTE] uh, have you looked at the republican platform recently?
[quote]Bills will be required to be posted online for 72 hours before they can come to a final vote, banning the practice of rewriting legislation shortly before it is to be voted on, so that all Americans have time to go online, read a bill and then lobby their member of Congress.[/quote] What a joke. Once they get in office they treat the public like the Jehovah's Witnesses, and avoid you like the plague. I like how they're posting it online (72 hours isn't long enough to be honest though) But as if Americans being able to say something about it will change the fact. There are protests every single day that number thousands and they never do shit
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