ICE detains a Polish doctor and green-card holder who has lived in the U.S. for nearly 40 years
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[url=https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2018/01/22/ice-detains-a-polish-doctor-and-green-card-holder-who-has-lived-in-the-u-s-for-nearly-40-years/?utm_term=.efdfe382a9a7]Source[/url]
[QUOTE]Lukasz Niec was 5 years old when his parents brought him and his sister to the United States from Poland. With two suitcases in tow, his parents — both doctors — left behind a country on the verge of social turmoil. It was 1979, about two years before the country’s authoritarian communist government declared martial law.
Niec received a temporary green card and, in 1989, became a lawful permanent resident. He grew up in Michigan, went to medical school, became a doctor, and raised a daughter and stepdaughter.
Niec, now 43, never fathomed that his legal status in the United States would become an issue. With a renewed green card, and nearly 40 years in the country, his Polish nationality was an afterthought for Niec, his sister told The Washington Post. He doesn’t even speak Polish.
But on Tuesday morning, immigration authorities arrested Niec at his home, just after he had sent his 12-year-old stepdaughter off to school. Niec, a physician specializing in internal medicine at Bronson Healthcare Group in Kalamazoo, Mich., has been detained in a county jail ever since, awaiting a bond hearing and possible deportation.
“It’s shocking,” said his sister Iwona Niec Villaire, a corporate lawyer. “No one can really understand what happened here.”
According to his “notice to appear” from the Department of Homeland Security, Niec’s detention stems from two misdemeanor convictions from 26 years ago. In January 1992, Niec was convicted of malicious destruction of property under $100. In April of that year, he was convicted of receiving and concealing stolen property over $100 and a financial transaction device.
Because Niec was convicted of two crimes involving “moral turpitude,” stemming from two separate incidents, he is subject to removal, immigration authorities wrote in the notice to appear, citing the Immigration and Nationality Act.
Both of the offenses took place when he was a teenager. He associated himself “with some bad people” his sister said. The first of the incidents involved an altercation with a driver after a car crash, Niec’s sister said. He was one of multiple teenagers in the car at the time.
The second of those convictions was eventually expunged from his criminal record, his sister said, as part of a guilty plea through Michigan’s Holmes Youthful Trainee Act, a program intended to help young offenders avoid the stigma of a criminal conviction. But even though the crime was scrubbed off his public record, it can still be used against him for removal from the country, his sister said.
ICE has not responded to requests for information from The Washington Post and declined to comment to WOOD-TV. Since Thursday, a spokesman for the ICE Detroit Field Office has not responded to requests for information from MLive, except to say he was looking into the case.
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How ridiculous. The man is American in all but name, and yet now he faces the very real possibility of being kicked out of his country, all because of something that happened decades ago.
[QUOTE]The second of those convictions was eventually expunged from his criminal record, his sister said, as part of a guilty plea through Michigan’s Holmes Youthful Trainee Act, a program intended to help young offenders avoid the stigma of a criminal conviction. But even though the crime was scrubbed off his public record, it can still be used against him for removal from the country, his sister said.[/QUOTE]
This in particular baffles me. "Even though his conviction was removed, we are still going to treat him like a dirty criminal so we can remove him from our glorious US-of-A." :hammered:
Fucking disgusting. There seems to be no line between indiscriminate ruining of lawful immigrants' lives, and enforcing/preventing new or harmful illegal immigration.
This guy is seriously doing no harm. Their going after him (and others like him I'm sure) can only be to make a statement. And that statement is [i]fucking terrifying.[/i] America, you are scaring us. Please stop.
Thank God ICE is here to deport this doctor because he made a mistake as a teen and is technically Polish.
Wait, no, fuck that.
Stories like this are going to tank immigration to the United States so fucking hard, and we're going to lose out big time because of it. It's fucking disgusting.
This is bullshit, the moral turpitude laws shouldn't even necessarily lead to deportation unless they involve aggravated felonies, according to the immigration law, especially under these circumstances.
[url]http://immigration.findlaw.com/deportation-removal/felony-convictions-and-immigration-status.html[/url]
[QUOTE=The Rifleman;53072183]Stories like this are going to tank immigration to the United States so fucking hard, and we're going to lose out big time because of it. It's fucking disgusting.[/QUOTE]
Honestly. I love my country. I want it to prosper and be great.
But these past 2 years just make me want to pack up and leave. Fuckin’ A, seriously.
Shit like this is why people aren't so keen to migrate to the US anymore
[QUOTE=Pigbear;53072203]Shit like this is why people aren't so keen to migrate to the US anymore[/QUOTE]
I mean fuck dude, I ain't very keen to go to sleep and wake up in my country anymore. So ass backwards nowadays it's not even fucking funny.
Is it just me, or does it seem like a lot of big enforcement agencies are going after more innocent people lately because they are easy targets?
[QUOTE=AlbertWesker;53072235]Is it just me, or does it seem like a lot of big enforcement agencies are going after more innocent people lately because they are easy targets?[/QUOTE]
Got to hit those quotas.
It's going to hurt the wrong kind of immigration and Trump is going to humble brag about it despite the fact that Mexican immigration was already on a decline
"they're not sending their best people"
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According to Kalamazoo County court records cited by MLive, Niec also pleaded guilty in 2008 to operating impaired by liquor. After he completed probation, the conviction was set aside, the plea withdrawn and the case dismissed. He was also charged with domestic violence in 2013 and a jury found him not guilty after a trial, MLive reported.
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[QUOTE=Toybasher;53072309] empty quote[/QUOTE]
Can you use your words to explain why he deserves to be kicked out of the country?
[QUOTE=Toybasher;53072309]According to Kalamazoo County court records cited by MLive, Niec also pleaded guilty in 2008 to operating impaired by liquor. After he completed probation, the conviction was set aside, the plea withdrawn and the case dismissed. He was also charged with domestic violence in 2013 and a jury found him not guilty after a trial, MLive reported.[/QUOTE]
not dealing with him as a citizen and instead deporting them is such a fucking cop-out
[QUOTE=Toybasher;53072309]According to Kalamazoo County court records cited by MLive, Niec also pleaded guilty in 2008 to operating impaired by liquor. After he completed probation, the conviction was set aside, the plea withdrawn and the case dismissed. He was also charged with domestic violence in 2013 and a jury found him not guilty after a trial, MLive reported.[/QUOTE]
what are you trying to prove with this? the man isn't a saint, but do you honestly think he's dangerous enough to warrant sending thousands of miles away??
[QUOTE=Toybasher;53072309]bullshit[/QUOTE]
I’ve had coworkers with heavier convictions. If you think this is reason to deport someone you’re out of your mind
[QUOTE=Toybasher;53072309]Guy found [i]not guilty[/i] of domestic abuse via trial/due judicial processing is still a guilty criminal scumbag.[/QUOTE]
That's what you're trying to say right? Because that's what you're implying here.
If being found not guilty of a crime and one account of drink driving that ended in you properly completing probation and not reoffending is all it takes to deserve deportation then at least 70% of the citizens of the country don't deserve to live in it. Because I can guarantee that over half the US population has either done something even slightly morally dubious and/or been not guilty of serious crimes(regardless of legal process finding them as such) or worse.
I can virtually guarantee you that you've probably done something in your life to deserve deportation by your own quote's standard.
[QUOTE=Toybasher;53072309]stupid[/QUOTE]
I see a dismissal and a not guilty. what is your point?
ICE is made up of the worst kind of scumbags that can obtain a badge.
i can't even think of anything clever to say, this is just some fuckin' bullshit
So uh will the US regress to the turn of the century when Poles and Irish and other white Europeans were discriminated against?
[QUOTE=Toybasher;53072309]pointlessly bringing not guilty verdicts into an argument to draw a narrative that the doctor is a bad person[/QUOTE]
So [I]you[/I] want to get rid of a highly trained and educated doctor whose lived here for decades, because he was found not guilty on a bunch of old charges?
All you're doing is going for character assassination, you should be ashamed of yourself, because that's pathetic.
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All you're doing is going for character assassination, you should be ashamed of yourself, because that's pathetic.[/QUOTE]
Par for the course with most Republicans, especially the screamers on FP who are so deep in denial (or $$$ from shilling) that they have to resort to low blows
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;53072197]Honestly. I love my country. I want it to prosper and be great.
But these past 2 years just make me want to pack up and leave. Fuckin’ A, seriously.[/QUOTE]
Move over to Europe. Most of it's cool, just avoid the UK right now.
[QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;53072757]you're anti-america.[/QUOTE]
I mean I agree but I don't think that posts like this help
[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;53072735]Move over to Europe. Most of it's cool, just avoid the UK right now.[/QUOTE]
Well he is getting deported to Poland, which is about as much of a shithole as US is only becoming. Hell, our president even complained about "fake news" to Trump.
Guy is fucked no matter what.
[QUOTE=Damjen;53073036]Well he is getting deported to Poland, which is about as much of a shithole as US is only becoming. Hell, our president even complained about "fake news" to Trump.
Guy is fucked no matter what.[/QUOTE]
Poland's still in the EU, so he should be able to move somewhere nice like Germany or France if he chooses to.
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