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[quote=http://edition.cnn.com/2013/01/13/world/americas/cuba-travel-restrictions/?hpt=tr_c2]Havana, Cuba (CNN) -- Mileidy Ramayo hasn't seen her father since he left Cuba on a raft but is hoping the loosening of travel restrictions might help bring that reunion closer to taking place. "I haven't seen my father since 1994. It would change my life to be able to see him and give him a hug," Ramayo said. [B]On Monday, Cubans will no longer need an exit permit and a letter of invitation from someone in another country to travel abroad.[/B] Shortly after Fidel Castro took power in 1959, stringent travel laws were put in place to stem an exodus from Cuba. Now Cubans will require only a passport to travel internationally and [B]can stay abroad for two years[/B] -- more than twice as long as the previous restriction -- without losing their property or ability to return to the island. Doctors and other professionals who the government said owed Cuban society for their training will also be able to take advantage of the looser restrictions. Also for the first time, Cubans will able to travel abroad with their young children. But officials have said military officials, who might possess government secrets, and sports stars, who could earn a fortune overseas compared with their salaries in Cuba, will still face added restrictions. It was unclear whether members of dissident organizations, long prevented from receiving honors and awards abroad, would also be able to travel with greater freedom. "If you remove the exit permit but you require Cuban citizens to revalidate their passports, the question is: Will everyone get a passport back and therefore be free to travel, or will there still be controls?" U.S. Assistant Secretary of State for Western Hemisphere Affairs Roberta Jacobson said in October after the new travel policies were announced. On Friday, a State Department spokeswoman said in a statement that the United States was working to address any increase in the number of Cubans seeking visas to come to the United States. U.S. officials have said that at least for the time being, the Cuban Adjustment Act, or "wet foot, dry foot," will remain in place. The act allows Cubans who arrive on U.S. soil to remain in the country. With the loosening of travel restrictions, Cubans officials again called for an end to the policy. Waiting in a line to apply for a passport, Ramayo said she hoped that she would soon be able to travel abroad and be reunited with her family. But she conceded she still needed to find a country that would give her a visa and be able to pay for a plane ticket. Still, Ramayo said, she dreamed of seeing the world beyond Cuba's shores and then returning home. "It's what everyone wants," she said. "To be a normal country and be like all the people who can just buy a ticket and come to Cuba. That we could go other places too."[/quote] Summary: This monday Cubans are finally allowed to travel internationally and stay away for up to 2 years without filing a travel permit that would cost around 100$ first. Interesting: This goes hand in hand with certain economy liberations in the past two years, it may very well be a result of Castro's brother being in charge. Of course there are less "official" ways to stop people from traveling but it's a change at least.
That reminds me of one documentary that I saw last month on BBC. It was said that if you want to see communist Cuba, then now is the time since people are becoming more and more free there. Like people are selling houses while it used to be that the government gave the house to the people.
hopefully one day cuba will become the 52nd state like it was destined to
[QUOTE=Drag#!;39214144]That reminds me of one documentary that I saw last month on BBC. It was said that if you want to see communist Cuba, then now is the time since people are becoming more and more free there. Like people are selling houses while it used to be that the government gave the house to the people.[/QUOTE] You also can get bank loans as a private person now, this was impossible for the last 60 years. Go Cuba.
Thats really huge for Cubans. I'm happy to see them gaining more freedoms.
People forget that the US still has a full trade embargo on Cuba.
[QUOTE=laserguided;39215780]People forget that the US still has a full trade embargo on Cuba.[/QUOTE] Why doesn't Obama just get rid of that. The cold war is over. Communism is dead. Why is it still there?
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;39215826]Why doesn't Obama just get rid of that. The cold war is over. Communism is dead. Why is it still there?[/QUOTE] Because he doesn't wan't to.
Awesome. And I'll love to go there one day, seeing all the old classical houses with all that 1940s cars. Mmmm [img]http://us.123rf.com/400wm/400/400/frankix/frankix1110/frankix111000018/11186002-havana-cuba-street-scene-with-old-car-and-worn-out-buildings.jpg[/img] [img]http://pcdn.500px.net/18046447/4844f1f9c843405367cac858e4a18938eb10c7ca/4.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;39215826]Why doesn't Obama just get rid of that. The cold war is over. Communism is dead. Why is it still there?[/QUOTE] Three words: The Republican Party, it's still devoutly anti-communist and if Obama were to remove the embargo, it would give them ammunition to use against the Democrats in the next elections. And wasn't it Romney who said that Russia is still the biggest threat to our national security? So some of them still think the Cold War never really ended. And there's still plenty of older Americans who say Communism is the devil-incarnated and shit like that. And don't expect those feelings to disappear or change anytime soon either.
[QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;39214172]hopefully one day cuba will become the 52nd state like it was destined to[/QUOTE] that's when Guantanamo bay will finally shut down
[QUOTE=trotskygrad;39215926]that's when Guantanamo bay will finally shut down[/QUOTE] So like......never?
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;39215826]Why doesn't Obama just get rid of that. The cold war is over. Communism is dead. Why is it still there?[/QUOTE] Communism is bigger now than it has ever been. There are more communist party members now than previously before and quite a few states are still communist. Communism is far from dead.
[QUOTE=Scrimp;39216095]Communism is bigger now than it has ever been. There are more communist party members now than previously before and quite a few states are still communist. Communism is far from dead.[/QUOTE] what it's dead as a doornail [editline]14th January 2013[/editline] nowhere in europe is communist, russia isn't communist, if you claim china is communist I will laugh at you, cuba is climbing out of communism what do we have left? vietnam?
[QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;39216134]what it's dead as a doornail [editline]14th January 2013[/editline] nowhere in europe is communist, russia isn't communist, if you claim china is communist I will laugh at you, cuba is climbing out of communism what do we have left? vietnam?[/QUOTE] You don't have to have a communist state to mean communism is alive.
[QUOTE=Scrimp;39216224]You don't have to have a communist state to mean communism is alive.[/QUOTE] so by your logic the renaissance is still alive because of renaissance fairs
[QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;39216243]so by your logic the renaissance is still alive because of renaissance fairs[/QUOTE] Is this a straw man fallacy?
[QUOTE=laserguided;39215780]People forget that the US still has a full trade embargo on Cuba.[/QUOTE] What morons forget that?
[QUOTE=DaysBefore;39216276]What morons forget that?[/QUOTE] Morons.
[QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;39216134]what it's dead as a doornail [editline]14th January 2013[/editline] nowhere in europe is communist, russia isn't communist, if you claim china is communist I will laugh at you, cuba is climbing out of communism what do we have left? vietnam?[/QUOTE] Our evil enemy North Korea, threatening world peace with 40 year old tanks.
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;39216287]Our evil enemy North Korea, threatening world peace with 40 year old tanks.[/QUOTE] Or you know, if they go to war millions die and Seoul gets smashed to rubble?
[QUOTE=laserguided;39216272]Is this a straw man fallacy?[/QUOTE] notreally
[QUOTE=laserguided;39215780]People forget that the US still has a full trade embargo on Cuba.[/QUOTE] Fun fact: every year Cuba petitions the U.N. in the GA for the U.S. remove the blockade on Cuba. The vote is always unanimous in the affirmative with the exception of two nations - the United States, and Israel.
[QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;39216243]so by your logic the renaissance is still alive because of renaissance fairs[/QUOTE] Well, what I am saying is that for example communism didn't suddenly appear out of the blue when the USSR was formed, there were communists before that. There are a lot of communist party members in a lot of countries than previously before, this may sound not true but communism didn't just die off when the USSR collapsed. In fact the Communist Party of the Russian Federation got nearly 20% of the votes in the parliamentary elections of 2011, up a lot from previous years, which shows that communism is still very much alive even in former communist states. I'm not trying to be pro commie, just pointing out that it is still quite a large force in the world.
[QUOTE=jptalbert;39215759]Thats really huge for Cubans. I'm happy to see them gaining more freedoms.[/QUOTE] The reason why the current system lasts so long is because of the retarded embargo by America. Give it up already you paranoid twats. [editline]14th January 2013[/editline] I wish they would retain their communistic system
[QUOTE=smeismastger;39216337]I wish they would retain their communistic system[/QUOTE] why
My mother was born in Cuba and was only six years old when the revolution took place. She still has the deeds from her mother of the house she left. When she left, her parents expected to go back after a few weeks or a month of waiting. They were never able to return. I hope I could someday visit Cuba and see my mother's house. Btw whatever she saw as a young girl during the revolution must have been terrifying as she still has many symptoms of PTSD today.
[QUOTE=laserguided;39216289]Or you know, if they go to war millions die and Seoul gets smashed to rubble?[/QUOTE] Hmm no
[QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;39216373]why[/QUOTE] Because it's a unique system they have there and it's not like the folks at the countryside are starving and being in constant suffering like in North Korea.
[QUOTE=smeismastger;39216771]Because it's a unique system they have there and it's not like the folks at the countryside are starving and being in constant suffering like in North Korea.[/QUOTE] they'd be better off under capitalism
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