• 4-year-old boy dies after being mauled by pit bulls in Detroit
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[B]4-year-old boy dies after being mauled by pit bulls in Detroit[/B] Via [URL="http://www.wxyz.com/news/child-mauled-by-multiple-dogs-in-detroit"]WXYZ Detroit[/URL] (video in source) ____________________ [quote]DETROIT (WXYZ) - A 4-year-old boy has died after being mauled by three pit bulls in Detroit on Wednesday afternoon. We're told the attack happened in the 15500 block of Baylis. A witness who lives in the neighborhood says Xiaver Strickland was walking with his mother when he was grabbed and pulled under the fence by the dogs. We talked to the mother of four-year old Xiaver Strickland Wednesday night. Dolly Strickland says she was walking to nearby Thurgood Marshall Elementary School on the city's west side to volunteer with her son. She tells us one pitbull got loose, dragging her son behind a fence. Strickland says she tried jumping on top of her son, but could not save him. Officers arrived quickly, shooting and killing three dogs. Strickland also claims one of those dogs bit and attacked her nine-year old son before. The owner of the dogs is now in custody, but police aren't talking about any charges yet. Police say the three dogs were shot and killed by responding officers.[/quote] That must have been incredibly harrowing for his mom to witness, holy shit :/
Oh god, that must've been devastating to watch.
I don't even want to think about how horrible that must've been for either one of them, good lord.
You should have to earn a certificate/license to own a pit bull.
[QUOTE=HybridTheroy;49271423]You should have to earn a certificate/license to own a pit bull.[/QUOTE] what does that solve? it's not like a car license where you're trained to use a car and cars aren't living beings that can act on their own do you mean for breeding them?
[QUOTE=HybridTheroy;49271423]You should have to earn a certificate/license to own a pit bull.[/QUOTE] You don't need a license to become a parent. Somehow I doubt they will put a system like that in place for pitbulls.
[QUOTE=rampageturke 2;49271494]what does that solve? it's not like a car license where you're trained to use a car and cars aren't living beings that can act on their own do you mean for breeding them?[/QUOTE] It can definitely be the same thing, where you are trained to properly handle dicipline and raise the dog. Of course breeding should follow under the same rules if not more-so. You don't believe it would make much of a difference for some reason, it would make more of a difference than what was done after previous pit bull attacks (nothing). [editline]8th December 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Buck.;49271500]You don't need a license to become a parent. Somehow I doubt they will put a system like that in place for pitbulls.[/QUOTE] You don't buy children capable of ripping out the esophogas of other children on instinct.
[QUOTE=HybridTheroy;49271423]You should have to earn a certificate/license to own a pit bull.[/QUOTE] and we're off
Well I mean making sure the owner is actually capable of training a pitbull wouldn't be something I'm opposed to. Pitbulls ARE a dangerous breed in the wrong hands.
What the hell are pitbulls even used for? It seems like we only ever hear about them attacking kids or people on the street but never this pitbull saved this child from a lone gunman.
Look I get that pit bulls are the center of this aggressive problem, but with [I]normal training and care [/I]they can be sweet and lovable as any other dog breed. We honestly can't do jack shit about "measures". Vets, mills, or whoever would have tabs on too many people that could be a mess. The best we could do for pit bull owners is give them 1/2 off lessons with adopting them. Their fault if they don't attend and it turns out that they don't know how to raise a dog. Wanted to say that before this gets crazy.
[QUOTE=Passing;49271567]What the hell are pitbulls even used for? It seems like we only ever hear about them attacking kids or people on the street but never this pitbull saved this child from a lone gunman.[/QUOTE] lol what are pets used for in general?
[QUOTE=HybridTheroy;49271510]Of course breeding should follow under the same rules if not more-so. You don't believe it would make much of a difference for some reason, it would make more of a difference than what was done after previous pit bull attacks (nothing).[/QUOTE] You already have to be a licensed breeder in the United States. [url]https://www.aphis.usda.gov/wps/portal/banner/help?urile=wcm%3Apath%3A%2Faphis_content_library%2Fsa_our_focus%2Fsa_animal_welfare%2Fsa_awa%2Fct_awa_regulated_businesses[/url] [url]https://www.aphis.usda.gov/publications/animal_welfare/content/printable_version/fs_andealer.pdf[/url] That's why puppy mills and private sales exist.
[QUOTE=Hogie bear;49271596]lol what are pets used for in general?[/QUOTE] Depends on the pet. But with most (if not all) pets this sort of thing doesn't happen. People say cats are disloyal but I've never heard of a pack of them tearing a child apart, whereas every few months a pitbull does.
[QUOTE=Passing;49271567]What the hell are pitbulls even used for? It seems like we only ever hear about them attacking kids or people on the street but never this pitbull saved this child from a lone gunman.[/QUOTE] would a pitbull save a child from a crazed gunman? only one way to find out
[QUOTE=Hogie bear;49271596]lol what are pets used for in general?[/QUOTE] Well, Cats tend to be kept to protect the house from rodents. I know my cat tends to hunt in the shed a lot for them and protects my chicken feed. Chickens are good for eggs and meat, also make good pets for children. Dogs are meant for guarding and hunting however man, doesn't really do that much. But dogs are very sociable and will crave human attention, unlike cats which don't. [video=youtube;0jFGNQScRNY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jFGNQScRNY[/video]
Yet another mauling by a pit bull Oh I'm sure a few of them are such [I]sweeties ans totes nice guies[/I] Useless fucking dog breed kills another kid
[QUOTE=maddogsamurai;49271583]Look I get that pit bulls are the center of this aggressive problem, but with [I]normal training and care [/I]they can be sweet and lovable as any other dog breed. We honestly can't do jack shit about "measures". Vets, mills, or whoever would have tabs on too many people that could be a mess. The best we could do for pit bull owners is give them 1/2 off lessons with adopting them.[/quote] Or actually make sure the owner has some knowledge of how to train a dog perhaps? [quote] Their fault if they don't attend and it turns out that they don't know how to raise a dog. [/QUOTE] Tell that to the mother and the baby.
[QUOTE=Passing;49271629] But dogs are very sociable and will crave human attention, unlike cats which don't.[/QUOTE] What? My cat pretty much always craves attention.
[QUOTE=Lium;49271639]What? My cat pretty much always craves attention.[/QUOTE] There are exceptions of course.
[QUOTE=Passing;49271651]There are exceptions of course.[/QUOTE] Cats are just as affectionate as dogs most of the time. Its just that cats take a bit more to gain trust with.
[QUOTE=Megadave;49271529]and we're off[/QUOTE] Well it's a relevant issue and we as a society should speculate on ways that issue can be put to rest or else nothing will change or even get worse. Being afraid of debate is being afraid of change.
I don't understand people defending pitbulls. Why not just get a breed that is not known for being ferocious by default? Why do you need a pitbull for as opposed to literally any other species, the choice pool is damn huge. Instead people need pitbulls and due to that crap innocent people lose their lives in something that could've been avoided if only these dogs were not allowed. But you say pitbulls can be the sweetest nicest dogs under right training, so can be most other dog species, so why again pick pitbull? It's like people WANT to play with fire.
[QUOTE=HybridTheroy;49271701]Well it's a relevant issue and we as a society should speculate on ways that issue can be put to rest or else nothing will change or even get worse. Being afraid of debate is being afraid of change.[/QUOTE] Crackdown on puppy mills, dog fighting rings, and animal abuse really hard.
[QUOTE=Billy-Bobfred;49271636]Yet another mauling by a pit bull Oh I'm sure a few of them are such [I]sweeties ans totes nice guies[/I] Useless fucking dog breed kills another kid[/QUOTE] Fuck off, there are millions of pit bulls and you're condemning the whole breed because you read about one mauling every 3 months or so. If the trainer isn't a dipshit then they're more friendly than a lot of common breeds, even for children. Being an edge master because you're igor ant doesn't excuse the retarded stuff like this people spout. [editline]8th December 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=itisjuly;49271705]I don't understand people defending pitbulls. Why not just get a breed that is not known for being ferocious by default? Why do you need a pitbull for as opposed to literally any other species, the choice pool is damn huge. Instead people need pitbulls and due to that crap innocent people lose their lives in something that could've been avoided if only these dogs were not allowed. But you say pitbulls can be the sweetest nicest dogs under right training, so can be most other dog species, so why again pick pitbull? It's like people WANT to play with fire.[/QUOTE] They aren't ferocious by default, that's something they're taught. You choose a pitbull because they are deathly loyal, friendly beyond compare and compassionate more so than a lot of other dog breeds.
[QUOTE=OvB;49271610]You already have to be a licensed breeder in the United States. [url]https://www.aphis.usda.gov/wps/portal/banner/help?urile=wcm%3Apath%3A%2Faphis_content_library%2Fsa_our_focus%2Fsa_animal_welfare%2Fsa_awa%2Fct_awa_regulated_businesses[/url] [url]https://www.aphis.usda.gov/publications/animal_welfare/content/printable_version/fs_andealer.pdf[/url] That's why puppy mills and private sales exist.[/QUOTE] That's a great start, but I believe anyone that handles dangerous breeds should have to get some kind of certification.
Could this topic be any bigger a shit show of irrational self-righteous reactionaries? "This [I]breed of dog[/I] doesn't have any [I][B]legitimate uses[/B][/I], you should need a license to own them!!!", the subtext being "I have zero understanding of correlation versus causation and it has not occurred to me even once that the myth of inherently dangerous dogs could be self-perpetuating because people who want vicious animals seek out these breeds specifically for that reputation and tailor them to fit those traits!!!"
[QUOTE=HybridTheroy;49271727]That's a great start, but I believe anyone that handles dangerous breeds should have to get some kind of certification.[/QUOTE] Everything above 20lbs could be considered a dangerous breed. I get thay pitbulls are big but what about breeds like Mastiffs and huskies.
[QUOTE=itisjuly;49271705]I don't understand people defending pitbulls. Why not just get a breed that is not known for being ferocious by default? Why do you need a pitbull for as opposed to literally any other species, the choice pool is damn huge. Instead people need pitbulls and due to that crap innocent people lose their lives in something that could've been avoided if only these dogs were not allowed. But you say pitbulls can be the sweetest nicest dogs under right training, so can be most other dog species, so why again pick pitbull? It's like people WANT to play with fire.[/QUOTE] A few decades ago it used to be the Doberman that was the media-darling people killer. If you completely destroyed Pit bulls as a breed, they would just move on to the next marginally life-threatening dog until all we had were Pomeranians. [quote]According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, between 1979 and 1998, the Doberman Pinscher was involved in attacks on humans resulting in fatalities less frequently than several other dog breeds such as German Shepherd Dogs, Rottweilers, Husky-type, Wolf-dog hybrids and Alaskan Malamutes.[22][23] According to this Center for Disease Control and Prevention study, one of the most important factors contributing to dog bites is the level of responsibility exercised by dog owners.[/quote] The best way to stop the attacks is to stop the stigma. I know plenty of people that [I]absolutely love[/I] pit bulls. We need to make them less desirable for fighting and defense and more desirable for a companion (which they are good at). The aggression can then be brought down through years of breeding and proper ownership.
[QUOTE=Billy-Bobfred;49271636]Yet another mauling by a pit bull Oh I'm sure a few of them are such [I]sweeties ans totes nice guies[/I] Useless fucking dog breed kills another kid[/QUOTE] first off, pit bull is not a breed, it's just visual characteristics that apply to many breeds quickly googled some stats, 25-33 (???) pit bull fatalities this year. considering at least a million pit bull type dogs are put down in shelters every year, it's a very popular breed. you could probably extrapolate that into a rough estimate of how many dogs of this type there are in the US altogether somehow. the point is, it's a type of dog that's extremely popular. even if they make up the majority of dog attacks nowadays (p sure rottweilers held that statistic some time back) saying "a few" are sweet family dogs implies there's millions of baby killing assault dogs scattered throughout the country which is simply not true.
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