• Trump suggested the 2001 death of a Joe Scarborough aide is an ‘unsolved mystery.’ It isn’t.
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[media]https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/935874566701842434[/media] [quote]President Trump took to Twitter on Wednesday to note the firing of Matt Lauer at NBC News — and, in the process, took aim at MSNBC’s Joe Scarborough over a death that occurred at Scarborough’s Florida office when he was a member of Congress.[/quote] [quote]Then he wrote: “And will they terminate low ratings Joe Scarborough based on the ‘unsolved mystery’ that took place in Florida years ago? Investigate!” The president appeared to be referring to the 2001 death of Lori Klausutis, a 28-year-old aide who worked for Scarborough at the time, when he represented Florida’s 1st congressional district. But Klausutis’s death is not an unsolved mystery: Authorities determined 16 years ago that she died after losing consciousness from an abnormal heart rhythm and collapsed, striking her head. She was discovered in Scarborough’s office in Fort Walton Beach, lying on her back with her head near a desk, according to a 2001 police report. The circumstances of Klausutis’s death on July 20, 2001, have prompted conspiracy theories — some of which appear to persist. But no foul play was suspected, and her death was ultimately ruled an accident by the medical examiner.[/quote] [url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/arts-and-entertainment/wp/2017/11/29/trump-suggested-the-2001-death-of-a-joe-scarborough-aide-is-an-unsolved-mystery-it-isnt/[/url] Because courting the xenophobic vote through twitter shitposts as the US president wasn't embarrassing enough for one day, Trump decided it would be best to use his platform to endorse baseless conspiracy theories
He's literally the president of the united states. Conspiracies shouldn't even be a thing with him anymore...
He's really going into overdrive on these meaningless distractions
[QUOTE=Speedhax;52933824]He's literally the president of the united states. Conspiracies shouldn't even be a thing with him anymore...[/QUOTE] But the Deep State is just keeping all that stuff from him, man
[QUOTE=Judas;52933829]He's really going into overdrive on these meaningless distractions[/QUOTE] I wonder what must've come up behind the scenes with the Mueller investigation recently. [editline]29th November 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=TheFilmSlacker;52933840]At this point wtf does he even have to say to be "unfit" for office[/QUOTE] "I respect Black people/Muslims/Mexicans/LGBT people and I think that Democrats/Liberals are okay."
He has also started rambling about the "Deep State". We are watching the President of the United States of America mentally unravel in real time.
I think he's drunk or something, he also tweeted at the wrong theresa may. [img]https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t34.0-12/24257684_10214182066362791_510972143_n.jpg?oh=63871eac4f3d0d84a207113bfe2e48d9&oe=5A2280F1[/img]
Fuck, you have a case impeaching him just for mental health issues.
I'm going with half dementia and half something behind the scenes
[QUOTE=Whomobile;52934117]I'm going with half dementia and half something behind the scenes[/QUOTE] I think he does lots of coke
[QUOTE=Lambeth;52934129]I think he does lots of coke[/QUOTE] idk man, cokeheads aren't so bad
[QUOTE=The Rifleman;52933966]I think he's drunk or something, he also tweeted at the wrong theresa may. [img]https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t34.0-12/24257684_10214182066362791_510972143_n.jpg?oh=63871eac4f3d0d84a207113bfe2e48d9&oe=5A2280F1[/img][/QUOTE] So if we are doing fine, then how can these "radical Muslim terrorists" be a threat?
[QUOTE=J!NX;52934131]idk man, cokeheads aren't so bad[/QUOTE] Presidents doing coke would be bad.
[QUOTE=Potus;52934168]So if we are doing fine, then how can these "radical Muslim terrorists" be a threat?[/QUOTE] Shh, don't question it, that would be actually using logic and reasoning!
[QUOTE=Dave_Parker;52934412]I think he's talking about UK vs US[/QUOTE] [I]woosh?[/I] if we include deaths due to gun violence, domestic terrorism, and deaths due to right-wing extremists the gap of about ~16 deaths (due to islamic extremists, this year) [I]sorta kinda[/I] closes a bit
there is some reasonable dispute about what happened. the thing that set off red flags for me was when scarborough claimed she had prior medical problems including history of stroke and epilepsy and then her family immediately came out and said something to the effect of "no she fuckin didn't". the cause of death is officially undiagnosed arrhythmia but the girl was a regular in marathons and had no issues with arrhythmia while doing heavy cardio but then suddenly has an episode walking around the office? joe himself had a pretty solid alibi so I don't believe that he murdered her or anything but the official report is questionable at best. why did he feel the need to lie about her prior medical history to two news sources within 3 hours if it was just an accident? plus the medical examiner that did the autopsy supposedly lost his license in 2 states for lying about autopsy work and finally fired 2 years later for not completing reports and on top of all that was arrested a few years ago for keeping fucking body parts in a storage unit. the whole case was a mess and believing everything just because it's "official" is straight up daft. the medical examiner was well established to be a total hack and his actions in the years after the case have only cemented that further, and the results of her autopsy are the only reason it was considered to be an accident
[QUOTE=butre;52934509]there is some reasonable dispute about what happened. the thing that set off red flags for me was when scarborough claimed she had prior medical problems including history of stroke and epilepsy and then her family immediately came out and said something to the effect of "no she fuckin didn't". the cause of death is officially undiagnosed arrhythmia but the girl was a regular in marathons and had no issues with arrhythmia while doing heavy cardio but then suddenly has an episode walking around the office? joe himself had a pretty solid alibi so I don't believe that he murdered her or anything but the official report is questionable at best. why did he feel the need to lie about her prior medical history to two news sources within 3 hours if it was just an accident? plus the medical examiner that did the autopsy supposedly lost his license in 2 states for lying about autopsy work and finally fired 2 years later for not completing reports and on top of all that was arrested a few years ago for keeping fucking body parts in a storage unit. the whole case was a mess and believing everything just because it's "official" is straight up daft. the medical examiner was well established to be a total hack and his actions in the years after the case have only cemented that further, and the results of her autopsy are the only reason it was considered to be an accident[/QUOTE] Valvular heart disease can build up over time and cause an arrhythmia suddenly with no external signs or symptoms. You didn't cite any of the other claims you made in your post so I don't really see the point in arguing them, but this is from the article [QUOTE] A copy of the medical examiner’s report was not immediately available on Wednesday, but a police investigator told The Washington Post that authorities had left “no stone unturned.”[/QUOTE] So you don't think Joe himself killed his aide but you think there is a coverup for...what, exactly?
[QUOTE=Raidyr;52934524]Valvular heart disease can build up over time and cause an arrhythmia suddenly with no external signs or symptoms. You didn't cite any of the other claims you made in your post so I don't really see the point in arguing them, but this is from the article So you don't think Joe himself killed his aide but you think there is a coverup for...what, exactly?[/QUOTE] I don't necessarily think there's a cover up, I just think the whole situation was a poorly-handled shitshow from all parties and any speculation or conspiracy is very much justified because of that. I think it very likely was an accident but not beyond reasonable doubt [editline]30th November 2017[/editline] it's not easy finding good period sources for any of this stuff since it was right before 9/11 and the guy remained relevant after the incident and now searching anything of relevance to the case just brings up this tweet, but here's a good source about the medical examiner being a maniac shitbag which should be enough to cast doubt on the situation [url]https://www.cbsnews.com/news/dr-michael-berkland-former-medical-examiner-arrested-for-storing-human-body-parts-in-fla-storage-unit/[/url] [editline]30th November 2017[/editline] [url]https://web.archive.org/web/20010908095124/http://www.nwfdailynews.com/archive/news/010901news3.html[/url] here I was able to find an archived source stating that she had no prior medical history other than some issues from a car crash. I've been unable to find a good source on him saying she had relevant medical history, since most anything left from back then is long dead conspiracy blogs, but I could probably find something if I had a stack of newspapers in front of me
[QUOTE=Lambeth;52934129]I think he does lots of coke[/QUOTE] I mean...he supposedly does have a button on his desk to summon a Coke delivery.
[QUOTE=butre;52934509]there is some reasonable dispute about what happened. the thing that set off red flags for me was when scarborough claimed she had prior medical problems including history of stroke and epilepsy and then her family immediately came out and said something to the effect of "no she fuckin didn't". the cause of death is officially undiagnosed arrhythmia but the girl was a regular in marathons and had no issues with arrhythmia while doing heavy cardio but then suddenly has an episode walking around the office? joe himself had a pretty solid alibi so I don't believe that he murdered her or anything but the official report is questionable at best. why did he feel the need to lie about her prior medical history to two news sources within 3 hours if it was just an accident? plus the medical examiner that did the autopsy supposedly lost his license in 2 states for lying about autopsy work and finally fired 2 years later for not completing reports and on top of all that was arrested a few years ago for keeping fucking body parts in a storage unit. the whole case was a mess and believing everything just because it's "official" is straight up daft. the medical examiner was well established to be a total hack and his actions in the years after the case have only cemented that further, and the results of her autopsy are the only reason it was considered to be an accident[/QUOTE] [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Fixx[/url] Healthy people have heart attacks and die randomly all the time. Bill Hicks used to make fun of Jim Fixx for dying mid run after taking care of his body his whole life, while Bill smoked multiple packs of cigarettes a day and out lived him by a good deal despite having pancreatic cancer.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;52935681][url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Fixx[/url] Healthy people have heart attacks and die randomly all the time. Bill Hicks used to make fun of Jim Fixx for dying mid run after taking care of his body his whole life, while Bill smoked multiple packs of cigarettes a day and out lived him by a good deal despite having pancreatic cancer.[/QUOTE] oh man over been trying to remember that dudes name for ages I'm well aware that heart attacks sneak up on you. like I said, it probably wasn't murder, and that's plenty to stand up in court, but the case being such a shitshow is enough to cast doubt on the findings and speculation is completely justified in this case
[QUOTE=butre;52936705]oh man over been trying to remember that dudes name for ages I'm well aware that heart attacks sneak up on you. like I said, it probably wasn't murder, and that's plenty to stand up in court, but the case being such a shitshow is enough to cast doubt on the findings and speculation is completely justified in this case[/QUOTE] No it isn't. You have provided no evidence that the investigation was mishandled, just red herrings about Joe's comments about her health and the medical examiners later transgressions. There was no sign of foul play and the medical examiners report was corroborated by statements from two witnesses that said the deceased seemed nervous, stressed, and unwell hours before the incident. It's certainly not a mystery, and Trump (and yourself) go well beyond the bounds of reason and common courtesy to suggest that Joe himself should be investigated. [QUOTE]i mean it [B]probably [/B]wasn't a murder but the president of the united states should [I]totally [/I]imply it was a murder based on the absolute lack of evidence i have provided to show why that is the case[/QUOTE]
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