• Trump to cops: 'Don't be too nice'
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[quote]President Trump on Friday encouraged police officers to treat suspects violently during a speech on curbing gang activity on Long Island, N.Y. Trump suggested officers allow suspects' heads to hit the doors of police vehicles after they are placed under arrest. "When you see these thugs being thrown into the back of a paddywagon, you just see them thrown in, rough, I said, ‘Please don't be too nice," Trump told an audience of law enforcement officers and crime victims’ families. “Like when you guys put somebody in the car and you’re protecting their head, you know, the way you put their hand over?” the president continued. “Like, don’t hit their head and they’ve just killed somebody. Don’t hit their head? I said, ‘You can take the hand away, OK?’” Trump’s comments drew laughter and applause from many of the officers standing behind him on stage. The president's speech was intended to lay out his administration's plan to defeat the criminal gang Mara Salvatrucha, also known as MS-13. He was speaking at Suffolk County Community College in the town of Brentwood, near where the gang has pulled off a string of violent attacks, including an April massacre that left four people dead.[/quote] SOURCE: [url]http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/344364-trump-encourages-cops-to-be-rough-with-suspects[/url]
what the fuck?
classy. especially with how he says it with a straight face.
Trump's quest to further dehumanize the 'other' continues. Illegal immigrants, Muslims, the Left, trans soldiers, criminals and their right to not be arbitrarily abused "by accident" in police custody, this is a joke except it's real.
Can't wait to see Drump bang his head on the paddywagon.
[QUOTE=Butthurter;52518010]how much longer before you get trump supporters acting surprised by his ever blatant show of colors[/QUOTE] Never. Have you not figured this out by now? There is [U]nothing[/U] that he can do or say that his core supporters will not rationalize and accept.
Well, I imagine they'll take that to heart when they drag the President, hissing and growling, out of the White House.
[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;52518021]Never. Have you not figured this out by now? There is [U]nothing[/U] that he can do or say that his core supporters will not rationalize and accept.[/QUOTE] 45% of Trump voters said they would approve of him shooting someone on Fifth Avenue, according to a PPP poll ([URL="http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2017/PPP_Release_National_71817.pdf"]PDF[/URL]).
what is innocence until proven guilty anyways haha why treat someone like a human just be a dick I mean its not like the court system exists
The cheering and whistling at that comment is really disturbing. It's nothing but cruelty, and completely pointless... what the fuck.
[QUOTE=J!NX;52518039]what is innocence until proven guilty anyways haha why treat someone like a human just be a dick I mean its not like the court system exists[/QUOTE] 'Cause you know they're the bad guys -- after all, the cops only arrest the [i]bad guys.[/i] Just like how Republicans think summary executions of terrorists are fine, because you're absolutely sure they're guilty. Y'know, because they're the [i]bad guys.[/i] [QUOTE=Sherow_Xx;52518051]The cheering and whistling at that comment is really disturbing. It's just cruelty, and completely pointless... what the fuck.[/QUOTE] Welcome to American policing. It's all about power and control over your situation and everyone around you, and the rights and dignity of those you deal with are basically ignored whenever convenient. Case in point, why American cops are so utterly trigger-happy, because if they think there's the slightest chance that you could be a threat (or if you're a scared Australian bride-to-be coming to them for help) your life is already forfeit. "I'd rather be judged by twelve than carried by six," as they say.
just saying, if Trump gets impeached and literally arrested don't move your hand to protect his head from the door frame haha know what I'm saying?
[QUOTE=Raidyr;52518034]45% of Trump voters said they would approve of him shooting someone on Fifth Avenue, according to a PPP poll ([URL="http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2017/PPP_Release_National_71817.pdf"]PDF[/URL]).[/QUOTE] [quote]72% of Trump voters consider the Russia story overall to be 'fake news,' only 14% disagree. Only 24% of Trump voters even want an investigation into whether the Trump campaign colluded with Russia, 64% are opposed to an investigation. Even if there was an investigation, and it found that the Trump campaign did collude with Russia to aid his campaign, 77% of his supporters think he should still stay in office to just 16% who believe he should resign. [/quote] Not surprised, but still disgusted. This is what I've been guessing for months now. Once the evidence becomes impossible to deny, Trump's extremists will switch tracks from claiming it's all "fake news," to arguing that collusion was a justified necessity, and that we should be [I]thanking[/I] Trump for shattering the integrity of our entire electoral process, because it saved us from that [B]BENGHAZI[/B] witch, Hillary. Thanks for the poll.
Just to be fair, this gang is MS-13 he is talking about, who have violently killed 17 innocent people (usually by hacking them apart with a machete). I don't agree with his rhetoric or "hurting suspects", but I understand how emotionally he is getting for this. [url]http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/ms-13-gang-member-narrated-filmed-murder-teen-fbi-agent-article-1.3318030[/url]
[QUOTE=DrVivi;52518233]Just to be fair, this gang is MS-13 he is talking about, who have violently killed 17 innocent people (usually by hacking them apart with a machete). I don't agree with his rhetoric or "hurting suspects", but I understand how emotionally he is getting for this. [url]http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/ms-13-gang-member-narrated-filmed-murder-teen-fbi-agent-article-1.3318030[/url][/QUOTE] The war on drugs, more restricted border access and general lack support for low income areas has done nothing but increases MS-13's influence and income. I had..."experiences" with MS in my city. They are stem from the same background, same area. Similar stories. Huge portion gets recruited in high school and the non-english speaking teens are almost always targeted while they are shoved into the same hallway and almost seperate from everybody else. Breeding grounds for these gangs.
[QUOTE]Trump’s comments drew laughter and applause from many of the officers standing behind him on stage. [/QUOTE] And people wonder why there's a mistrust of police in America.
[QUOTE=Carlito;52518273]And people wonder why there's a mistrust of police in America.[/QUOTE] i don't understand why people are fine talking about how all the people on top in america are corrupt madmen or how military power is abused for awful purposes but get really uncomfortable when talking about police in the same light. there are good intentioned individuals for sure but when they're operating within an inherently flawed system that doesn't matter much. that doesn't mean people should go around executing cops in patrol cars but criticism of the police is healthy and necessary
[QUOTE=DrVivi;52518233]Just to be fair, this gang is MS-13 he is talking about, who have violently killed 17 innocent people (usually by hacking them apart with a machete). I don't agree with his rhetoric or "hurting suspects", but I understand how emotionally he is getting for this. [url]http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/ms-13-gang-member-narrated-filmed-murder-teen-fbi-agent-article-1.3318030[/url][/QUOTE] Trump has never shown an ounce of empathy for other human beings, so why would he all of a sudden be getting emotional about them?
[QUOTE=DrVivi;52518233]Just to be fair, this gang is MS-13 he is talking about, who have violently killed 17 innocent people (usually by hacking them apart with a machete). I don't agree with his rhetoric or "hurting suspects", but I understand how emotionally he is getting for this. [url]http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/ms-13-gang-member-narrated-filmed-murder-teen-fbi-agent-article-1.3318030[/url][/QUOTE] doesn't matter what happened imo. there is a degree of professionalism required for being the leader of a country. and this isn't professional. at all. it's just another sign of how he can't be trusted to keep a level head.
[QUOTE=Butthurter;52518010]how much longer before you get trump supporters acting surprised by his ever blatant show of colors[/QUOTE] His most die-hard supporters won't be surprised, they'll be thrilled. This is the mentality they share, it's why Trump's bullshit rhetoric resonated so well with them. [editline]29th July 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=TheHydra;52518340]i don't understand why people are fine talking about how all the people on top in america are corrupt madmen or how military power is abused for awful purposes but get really uncomfortable when talking about police in the same light. there are good intentioned individuals for sure but when they're operating within an inherently flawed system that doesn't matter much. that doesn't mean people should go around executing cops in patrol cars but criticism of the police is healthy and necessary[/QUOTE] It's truly bizarre. We see corrupt police forces all over the globe, but not [I]here[/I], no sir. That's [I]impossible[/I] because we're [I]free[/I].
Yikes
trump talks like he got fucking blotto and blasted his head against a doorframe. i have to concentrate when i read his quotes.
[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;52518021]Never. Have you not figured this out by now? There is [U]nothing[/U] that he can do or say that his core supporters will not rationalize and accept.[/QUOTE] The piss tape could be released tomorrow and they'd say "wow I thought kink shaming wasn't cool, so much for the tolerant left."
[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;52518058]Not surprised, but still disgusted. This is what I've been guessing for months now. Once the evidence becomes impossible to deny, Trump's extremists will switch tracks from claiming it's all "fake news," to arguing that collusion was a justified necessity, and that we should be [I]thanking[/I] Trump for shattering the integrity of our entire electoral process, because it saved us from that [B]BENGHAZI[/B] witch, Hillary. Thanks for the poll.[/QUOTE] You have reached Alex Jones levels if you think Russia hacked anything its just excuses for why they lost, also there are several evidence that the Russia story is fake. [video]https://youtu.be/H4PUxJjrTho[/video] [video]https://youtu.be/_OKNOdojHBw[/video] And before you cry out that Tim Pool is right wing or alt right, I have to burst your bubble and tell you that he is more left leaning and is more of a centrist or libertarian left. I do agree that suspects should be treated with respect and dignity. [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Citing "Project Veritas" Videos -- Extremely Poor Source" - Big Dumb American))[/highlight]
Literally advocating for police brutality. Straight up saying it's OK to abuse people you arrest. This man is scum, flush him down the toilet where he fucking belongs. Better yet, send his ass to prison and let him see just how cushy the penal system is.
[QUOTE=Skanic;52518953]You have reached Alex Jones levels if you think Russia hacked anything its just excuses for why they lost, also there are several evidence that the Russia story is fake. [video]https://youtu.be/H4PUxJjrTho[/video] [/QUOTE] [QUOTE] ... in this undercover video from Project Veritas... [/QUOTE] Yeah when someone cites a video from James O'Keefe its probably a good idea not to take what he says seriously. [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_O'Keefe[/url] [QUOTE] He has been criticized for editing videos to misrepresent the context of conversations and the subjects' responses, creating the implication that people said or did things they did not [/QUOTE] [url]http://www.snopes.com/2016/10/18/project-veritas-election-videos/[/url]
[QUOTE=Skanic;52518953]You have reached Alex Jones levels if you think Russia hacked anything its just excuses for why they lost, also there are several evidence that the Russia story is fake.[/QUOTE] You're practically implying that the FBI and CIA are Alex Jones tier agencies, not only that, your evidence is a bunch of YT videos of based of a known information manipulator. what a load of crap
[QUOTE=Skanic;52518953] And before you cry out that Tim Pool is right wing or alt right, I have to burst your bubble and tell you that he is more left leaning and is more of a centrist or libertarian left. I do agree that suspects should be treated with respect and dignity.[/QUOTE] Ah yes, the classic 'I'm actually a classical liberal', or maybe the 'I'm not right wing I just think the left has more problems than the right' Where have I heard that one before... [IMG]https://i.imgur.com/szD3jkE.png[/IMG] Meanwhile these people conveniently forget about or ignore Trump's clear undermining of democracy, forget about the fact that 90% of Western powers have a right of centre government, forget about pro corporate neoliberal ideology ravaging wealth inequality, forget about the fact that this ideology is so ingrained in western politics that we have multiple international organisations that exist to defend the interests of this ideology, forget about who and what caused the global financial crashes, forget about who is causing housing markets to explode and wages to stagnate... And on top of all of this (and more), express vocal support for populist far right candidates. These people know the right is in power, yet want you to believe the left is the problem? Yeah sure. Centrist. These people have no conviction, they lie, deceive, misinform and manipulate because it's just where the money is.
[QUOTE=Sherow_Xx;52518051]The cheering and whistling at that comment is really disturbing. It's nothing but cruelty, and completely pointless... what the fuck.[/QUOTE] Especially coming from the force that's supposed to protect us. I understand that it's a dangerous and unsympathetic criminal entity that they're talking about, but the second you start idealizing brutality as means of effective policing instead of striving for professionalism, is the point where you see public trust in the force erode. And for good reason. Because while starting with bashing in the heads of murderous gangs isnt going to draw too much concern, what happens when that same style of policing becomes the norm and it's applied to someone you may not think is guilty or deserving? This is a problem that the US police will deal with for a very long time I reckon, considering the attitude of a lot of cops/departments and the current administration.
I'm more disgusted that cops cheered him on. Trump is a dickhead so of course he's going to say fucked up shit supporting police brutality, the fact that literal police officers behind him voiced agreement is deeply disturbing.
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