I KNOW this one is gonna hurt. I've seen alot of Mass debate forums that consists of everyone agreeing (Gay Marriage Thread)
Alright, so I'd like to know what your idea of a perfect government is. Personally, I think that humans shouldn't rule ourselves,
and we need to get around to inventing Helios so he can rule the world. No, I'm not joking, I'm seriously saying an AI
should rule the world. Provided it doesn't turn into Shodan.
I think humans should rule themselves, as a wonderful mixture between nationalism, socialism, and capitalism.
The perfect government in a perfect world would be no government.
A perfect government in an imperfect world cannot exist.
[QUOTE=ECrownofFire;32403528]The perfect government in a perfect world would be no government.
A perfect government in an imperfect world cannot exist.[/QUOTE]
except that would be nothing but chaos and anarchy
people need control, and theres no such think as no government, or a perfect government, its literally impossible.
maybe a congress of super computers? I don't know.
There is no such thing as a perfect government, and there never will be, there are just varying degrees of shitty.
Actual Wholehearted Socialism.
one part social libertarianism mixed with one part fiscal progressivism
[quote=Alpha 1-1]
What is a Perfect Government
[/quote]
There isn't one.
Society and what it holds to be self evident is always changing, a perfect government would have to be just as dynamic.
[QUOTE=Rubs10;32403772]Society and what it holds to be self evident is always changing, a perfect government would have to be just as dynamic.[/QUOTE]
And even then, a perfect government would be impossible because a perfect government would be able to cater to the needs and demands of every person or group of people, and that is simply not possible.
[QUOTE=Alpha 1-1;32403456]I KNOW this one is gonna hurt. I've seen alot of Mass debate forums that consists of everyone agreeing (Gay Marriage Thread)
Alright, so I'd like to know what your idea of a perfect government is. Personally, I think that humans shouldn't rule ourselves,
and we need to get around to inventing Helios so he can rule the world. No, I'm not joking, I'm seriously saying an AI
should rule the world. Provided it doesn't turn into Shodan.[/QUOTE]
Yeah yeah, post this while you're at it.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JfnFXdkSTI[/media]
A dynamic government that is willing to change laws to adapt to the needs of the people and the country is pretty much my dream.
There simply is no such thing as a perfect government. When you think you've achieved perfection, you only just start to realize how much more you can do.
Anarchy is not chaos.
[QUOTE=ryasnack1;32403961]Anarchy is not chaos.[/QUOTE]
This.
Anarchy simply means there is an absence of government. Whether or not the citizens go apeshit and cause havoc is an entirely different topic.
[QUOTE=ryasnack1;32403961]Anarchy is not chaos.[/QUOTE]
anarchy [ˈænəkɪ]
n
1. (Government, Politics & Diplomacy) general lawlessness and disorder, esp when thought to result from an absence or failure of government
2. (Government, Politics & Diplomacy) the absence or lack of government
3. the absence of any guiding or uniting principle; disorder; chaos
4. (Government, Politics & Diplomacy) the theory or practice of political anarchism
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[QUOTE=Upgrade123;32404005]This.
Anarchy simply means there is an absence of government. Whether or not the citizens go apeshit and cause havoc is an entirely different topic.[/QUOTE]
social contract > your ideologies
There's no such thing as a "perfect government" because perfection is completely subjective.
I'd consider a perfect government (or the closest you can get to it) is a progressive and dynamic one. However, because everyone has differing political opinions, their definition of a perfect government would be different than mine, therefore you can't have a perfect government because you sincerely can't please everybody.
There is non. As time goes on are society will evolve, change and get better and there will never be some amazing utopian system.
perfect government is an oxymoron because the government is a structure that controls things that behave at random (people)
there is no perfect system for containing randomness.
[QUOTE=trotskygrad;32404271]perfect government is an oxymoron because the government is a structure that controls things that behave at random (people)
there is no perfect system for containing randomness.[/QUOTE]
this is why the only perfect government can be one in which people take a drug or some other thing that prevents them from forming opinions against the government but that's seen as unethical in today's world
plus unless it's put in the food and water someone will find a way to circumvent it
You can't make everyone happy. So I don't think there is a perfect government.
The system from Brave New World.
It is revolting to us, but nearly everyone but the main characters are happy in that sort of society.
Full blown capitalism. The government protects the citizens and their assets, while placing minimal restrictions on commerce and financial freedom.
[QUOTE=Captain Lawlrus;32404865]Full blown capitalism. The government protects the citizens and their assets, while placing minimal restrictions on commerce and financial freedom.[/QUOTE]
until people get fucked over
pure capitalism/socialism is highly abusable
[QUOTE=TropicalV2;32404014]anarchy [ˈænəkɪ]
n
1. (Government, Politics & Diplomacy) general lawlessness and disorder, esp when thought to result from an absence or failure of government
2. (Government, Politics & Diplomacy) the absence or lack of government
3. the absence of any guiding or uniting principle; disorder; chaos
4. (Government, Politics & Diplomacy) the theory or practice of political anarchism
[editline]21st September 2011[/editline]
social contract > your ideologies[/QUOTE]
If taken from the Greek meaning it would mean no rulers.
So technically Anarcho-Democracy can exist, but my guess is it wouldn't work well at all.
Governemnt, no matter how good, is always just a necessary evil. A perfect society wouldn't need a government.
[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;32404985]Governemnt, no matter how good, is always just a necessary evil. A perfect society wouldn't need a government.[/QUOTE]
Sadly, a perfect society is literally impossible.
Actually bothered to look up what I said.
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isocracy[/url]
interesting.
[QUOTE=person11;32404846]Obviously the American Government!
[img]http://hammertime2012.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/bald_eagle_head_and_american_flag1.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
[editline]20th September 2011[/editline]
ftfy
Communism if you can get it right. Constitutional Republic (AMERICA) if you can't.
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