Gay Conservatives to HRC: “Shut Up” About Bachmann
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[release] When it comes to Michele Bachmann, the leader of a group of gay conservatives has a message for the Human Rights Campaign: “Shut up.”
GOProud is setting up a meeting with the Minnesota congresswoman to “find out exactly where she stands” on a range of issues. Bachmann, who once gave the opening blessing at an “ex-gay” conference in her home state, has dodged questions about her husband’s Christian counseling clinics, which she is also an owner. They were the subject of a hidden-camera operation that found them to be offering misguided therapy intent on stopping patients from being gay.
Meanwhile, Bachmann has made headlines by racing to sign “The Marriage Vow,” a pledge to an Iowa-based right-wing religious group. The pledge reaffirmed her belief that being gay is a choice, that gay marriage should be banned federally, and that gay parents are inferior to their straight counterparts.
All of that led HRC to launch a petition drive this week calling on Republican candidates to disavow so-called reparative therapy and to denounce “The Marriage Vow.”
“If they are really that worried about Michele Bachmann, the best thing they can do is shut up,” said Chris Barron, chairman of GOProud, in an interview with The Advocate. “Because every time they go out and attack Michele Bachmann it makes her more popular among conservatives, not less popular.”
GOProud says it is in contact with the Minnesota congresswoman, who leads some Iowa polls in her bid to win the Republican nomination, and that a meeting will be “sooner rather than later.” In the interview Barron defends his organization’s intention to support the Republican nominee in any circumstance, presumably even if Bachmann were to win. [/release]
Gay conservative. Yeah I dont even think that you have to read that to know that he's kind of crazy.
He wants a fucking interview with her. He must have a set of balls and one rubbing against his rectum.
Gays defending Bachmann?
But....why? It doesn't make sense.
[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;31228149]Gays defending Bachmann?
But....why? It doesn't make sense.[/QUOTE]
Gay conservatives. You wanted sense? Ha.
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They also showed up to some super republican convention and got called out.
They're right, until Bachmann either breaks in half or her popularity diminishes, trying to rail up against her just fuels her type of audience. They love idiots who stand there and "rally against the oppressive liberal media," when in actuality it's like a punching bag swinging back and forth after a sucker punch.
Luckily most of the questions thrown her way just demonstrate her incapability to lead the most important federal office in our whole entire country, so anyone not part of her platform becomes well-informed through these kind of arguments.
Thing is that on the off-chance that she does become the president, she's going to get very little support from other western nations, which wouldn't be great for the US.
[QUOTE=Sh33p;31228508]Thing is that on the off-chance that she does become the president, she's going to get very little support from other western nations, which wouldn't be great for the US.[/QUOTE]
If Bachmann becomes the president everyone will have much, much worse problems
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Bachmann isn't even going to get the nomination.
Unless someone appears in the next few months, it's almost certainly going to Mitt Romney. Every time the GOP band of misfits open their mouths, they just demonstrate how much more competent of a politician he is. This works perfectly for him, because the question of whether he was too "green" was the real issue that gave McCain the advantage in 2008. Now he has a team of GOP candidates just proving that he's a great choice.
[QUOTE=Reimu;31228721]Bachmann isn't even going to get the nomination.
Unless someone appears in the next few months, it's almost certainly going to Mitt Romney. Every time the GOP band of misfits open their mouths, they just demonstrate how much more competent of a politician he is. This works perfectly for him, because the question of whether he was too "green" was the real issue that gave McCain the advantage in 2008. Now he has a team of GOP candidates just proving that he's a great choice.[/QUOTE]
He's against marriage equality and abortion. :colbert:
[QUOTE=staticman;31228936]He's against marriage equality and abortion. :colbert:[/QUOTE]
Those are small peanuts compared to being married to someone who does therapeutic work for being gay, signing a vow claiming total ignorance of the current state of minority families, or championing religion as your guiding light in politics.
Concept of gay conservatives isn't that ridiculous. It's one issue in a very very wide range of issues. While maybe not as extreme an example, it's not much different than a pro-life liberal. I don't agree with every single thing the GOP technically stands for but the things I don't agree with far outweigh the number of things I don't agree with in regards to the Dems. That's why there are so many candidates, you just have to find one that most fits your views and vote and hope he wins the primary and then the election.
Yeah, generally speaking aligning yourself with one party =! agreeing with every issue the party aligns itself with.
I align myself with the Democrats these days, but I also have very conservative ideas on certain issues. Doesn't mean I think the Democrats aren't the right choice for me. Just means I don't agree with all of them all the time.
If it was a group of gay people who believed in conservatism then it would make sense, but their name "GOProud" seems to show support for the GOP, which right now is populated mostly with far-right Christian fundamentalist homophobes.
[quote]Gay Conservatives[/quote]
:frog:
[QUOTE=RichyZ;31230411]except gays are usually demonized in this culture and with all the immoral shit, you'd think that they'd always be towards the party that actually pushes for their rights, not against them (considering almost all of the conservative candidates are against gay rights)[/QUOTE]
Gays aren't so much demonized except with wackos who side with Bachmann, Santorum, and other ignorant fellows.
There are GOP politicians who are supportive of gay rights too. Ken Mehlman, chairman of the GOP during the Bush era, is gay. He supported the legalization of gay marriage in New York. Then there's people like Roy McDonald, who aren't looking to push gays into the corner, but do what they feel is best. He was the New York politician who said "Fuck it," and voted yes on the Bill. And then there's folks like Dan Savage, who are pro-gay marriage, but hold conservative values about the home and personal life.
In the end folks hit all over the spectrum. I think it's great there are people who identify with homosexuality/bisexuality/transgender/etc., but don't let that limit what party to support - despite any prejudice within the party. That takes a lot of courage and selfconfidence in what you believe.
Dan Savage also wished death to Conservative politicians like 4 days ago on Bill Meyer.
Why is Romney running again? I remember him dropping out last time because he knew he wouldn't know how to handle the withdrawal of soldiers from afghanistan and iraq
But it just goes to show that he doesn't let his party dictate how he looks at the world.
I remember Savage also apologized for saying all GOP Congressmen should go die. His remark was more towards ignorant folks like Santorum.
Gay conservatives??
What is that...like Jews for Jesus?
[QUOTE=CabooseRvB;31230963]Gay conservatives??
What is that...like Jews for Jesus?[/QUOTE]
More like Stockholm Syndrome.
[QUOTE=Dr.C;31230910]Why is Romney running again? I remember him dropping out last time because he knew he wouldn't know how to handle the withdrawal of soldiers from afghanistan and iraq[/QUOTE]
He ended his campaign in early February, mostly because McCain had a huge lead. McCain's campaign tried to say that Romney wanted a premature withdraw from Iraq, although I don't recall him stumbling about handling troop withdraw.
[QUOTE=UberMunchkin;31231082]Sorry, but I originally read it as BatMan :v:[/QUOTE]
Happens all the time.
[QUOTE=Reimu;31229876]but I also have very conservative ideas on certain issues.[/QUOTE]
Such as?
[QUOTE=Megafanx13;31232413]Such as?[/QUOTE]
Please don't try and start another argument. This thread is going so well.
[QUOTE=Capitulazyguy;31232800]Please don't try and start another argument. This thread is going so well.[/QUOTE]
I can't let that comment slide, sorry.
[QUOTE=Megafanx13;31232413]Such as?[/QUOTE]
A lot of things :v:.
[QUOTE=Reimu;31232913]A lot of things :v:.[/QUOTE]
That's pretty sad.
[QUOTE=Megafanx13;31232812]I can't let that comment slide, sorry.[/QUOTE]
Then you're just juvenile.
[QUOTE=Megafanx13;31233157]That's pretty sad.[/QUOTE]
Part of being politically involved is understanding that some people view things differently, and understanding - and, generally speaking, respecting - why they have those viewpoints.
If you really want to know, just read through my posts.
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I will say though that, no matter what political views I have, I would never support any of this bullshit.
Because it's insane bullshit.
To be fair, "Gay conservative" wouldn't be such a rare sight if america didn't have their dumbshit two party system.