Stephen Gilmartin jailed for hacking off finger and flushing down toilet! WTF SCOTLAND?
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[QUOTE]An armed intruder who hacked off part of a man's finger in his Fife home before it was flushed down a toilet has been jailed for four years.
Stephen Gilmartin barged into the Glenrothes home of James Grieve, 35, with a homemade weapon and hit him.
Gilmartin, 40, from Cupar, originally faced a charge of attempted murder following the assault on 12 April 2012.
Gilmartin admitted assault to severe injury, permanent impairment and disfigurement.
Advocate depute Pino Di Emidio told the High Court in Edinburgh that the pole-like weapon had a blade taped to the end and was described as "an old-fashioned lopper".
A judge told Gilmartin: "You pled guilty to an offence involving a very serious assault perpetrated by the use of a wicked and extremely frightening weapon."
Lord Turnbull told him that he would have faced a five-year prison term but for his guilty plea.
Mr Di Emidio told the court that while it was unclear who actually flushed the partially severed digit away, the accused Gilmartin instructed it to be done.
Mr Grieve was taken to Kirkcaldy's Victoria Hospital for treatment to his multiple wounds.
The prosecutor said one wound to his leg had exposed bone and he had three scalp cuts with the skull exposed below.
A nerve also had to be terminated following the partial amputation of his left little finger.
Police went to unemployed Gilmartin's home in Cupar and during a search found a bladed weapon in a bin bag next to a shed.
Defence solicitor advocate Chris Fyffe said Gilmartin "deeply regrets his behavior".[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-19702968[/url]
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Probably what the "lopper" device looked like or similar to.
You know what, I am beginning to give up hope on my own country.
Wat. Defend yourself with a gardening tool after someone breaks into your house with a weapon. Recieve jail.
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Does England have castle doctrine?
I really hope it does because without it I'd feel like I can't do anything to protect myself if necessary
"An armed intruder who hacked off part of a man's finger"
The owner of the house didn't do anything but get his finger lopped off. It was the intruder who got the jail service not the other guy.
E: But no England doesn't have anything that close to the castle law, just the basic premise of self defence. Alot of people have gotten in trouble for it apparently the official police view on it is if you're being robbed or something is being trashed/vandalised you must put yourself out of harms way and just let them do it.
[QUOTE=Riller;37785563]Wat. Defend yourself with a gardening tool after someone breaks into your house with a weapon. Recieve jail.[/QUOTE]
Read article.
Break into someones home and attack them. Receive jail.
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Have some dumbs for that cascade of retarded blethering.
[QUOTE=Northy66;37785616]Alot of people have gotten in trouble for it apparently the official police view on it is if you're being robbed or something is being trashed/vandalised you must put yourself out of harms way and just let them do it.[/QUOTE]
I maintain that this is retarded in every conceivable way.
[QUOTE=Riller;37785563]Wat. Defend yourself with a gardening tool after someone breaks into your house with a weapon. Recieve jail.[/QUOTE]
No no no, Stephen Gilmartin barged into James Grieve home and cut Jame's finger off and other injuries. Stephen is the one who is getting jailed.
[QUOTE=Zephyrs;37785645]I maintain that this is retarded in every conceivable way.[/QUOTE]
Most recent case would be when a semi celebrity in the UK, Myleene Klass, saw two teenagers breaking into her backyard shed, she called the police and attempted to scare them off with a kitchen knife. They got away but she got an official warning from the police never to use an "offensive weapon even in your own home" not for fear of them turning it on her just that threatening to attack someone who would not leave your property counts as a crime.
was probly swedgered oot is mind lol
[QUOTE=Zethereal;37785614]Does England have castle doctrine?
I really hope it does because without it I'd feel like I can't do anything to protect myself if necessary[/QUOTE]
Last time I checked, Scotland wasn't in England bud.
Title made me think the guy nabbed off his OWN finger and threw it into the toilet.
[QUOTE=Northy66;37785744]Most recent case would be when a semi celebrity in the UK, Myleene Klass, saw two teenagers breaking into her backyard shed, she called the police and attempted to scare them off with a kitchen knife. They got away but she got an official warning from the police never to use an "offensive weapon even in your own home" not for fear of them turning it on her just that threatening to attack someone who would not leave your property counts as a crime.[/QUOTE]
Most recent case would the homeowners who shot an intruder - and then weren't charged as it was clearly self-defence. 90% of the 'person gets arrested for defending themselves' stories you read in the papers involve situations where they would be prosecuted even under the Castle Doctrine - such as the Tony Martin case, where there was a huge outcry that he was prosecuted for murder (later downgraded to manslaughter) even though he shot someone fleeing in the back, when they had left the house.
[QUOTE=dunkace;37785646]No no no, Stephen Gilmartin barged into James Grieve home and cut Jame's finger off and other injuries. Stephen is the one who is getting jailed.[/QUOTE]
Ah. I swear, I read the article twice and still didn't figure out who was who.
did none of you lot read a single word in the article? An intruder breaks into a mans home, lops off his finger, gets four years in jail for it. There's absolutely nothing wrong with the situation other than the fact that a poor fellow lost his finger.
[QUOTE=Riller;37786323]Ah. I swear, I read the article twice and still didn't figure out who was who.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]An armed intruder who hacked off part of a man's finger in his Fife home before it was flushed down a toilet has been jailed for four years.
Stephen Gilmartin barged into the Glenrothes home of James Grieve, 35, with a homemade weapon and hit him.[/QUOTE]
It's pretty easy to distinguish the difference.
[QUOTE=Camundongo;37786302]Most recent case would the homeowners who shot an intruder - and then weren't charged as it was clearly self-defence. 90% of the 'person gets arrested for defending themselves' stories you read in the papers involve situations where they would be prosecuted even under the Castle Doctrine - such as the Tony Martin case, where there was a huge outcry that he was prosecuted for murder (later downgraded to manslaughter) even though he shot someone fleeing in the back, when they had left the house.[/QUOTE]
Shooting someone that's running away is very bad, some people rob to survive and you could be killing an innocent person that just needed something to sell so he could eat and live for a while longer.
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And then there's just some dicks that want to make easy money by stealing peoples valuables, but they're less likely to run I imagine.
[QUOTE=Canary;37787669]Shooting someone that's running away is very bad, some people rob to survive and you could be killing an innocent person that just needed something to sell so he could eat and live for a while longer.
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And then there's just some dicks that want to make easy money by stealing peoples valuables, but they're less likely to run I imagine.[/QUOTE]
Shooting someone in the back whilst they are running away, regardless of why they've stolen something, is wrong because [I]it isn't self-defense[/I]. Someone who is fleeing is not a physical risk to you or others around you - you aren't defended yourself or others. Attempting to restrain someone who is fleeing the scene of the crime [i]is[/i] legal though, but the use of a gun means it wouldn't be classified as that as a firearm is always considered to be deadly force.
I'd do anything to save my son Sean
[QUOTE=Scot;37785762]was probly swedgered oot is mind lol[/QUOTE]
[MEDIA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G72Kobea03U[/MEDIA]
He's had one disco biscuit too many.
Fucking love being from Fife.
[QUOTE=Canary;37787669]Shooting someone that's running away is very bad, some people rob to survive and you could be killing an innocent person that just needed something to sell so he could eat and live for a while longer.
[editline]24th September 2012[/editline]
And then there's just some dicks that want to make easy money by stealing peoples valuables, but they're less likely to run I imagine.[/QUOTE]
What, you don't actually think armed robbery is a legitimate way to make a living, do you? If someone is breaking into my house with a weapon and threatening me or my family, I'm not going to give them a chance to start running, and nobody should. Hesitation could mean your life or the lives of your family.
[QUOTE=Canary;37787669]rob...innocent person[/QUOTE]
What sort of crazy ass world do you live in?
I blame either the English, or the fact that everyone in our home country is kind of an idiot (in a drunken rabble sort of way).
Including semi-intelligent people like me.
[QUOTE=Zethereal;37785614]Does England have castle doctrine?
I really hope it does because without it I'd feel like I can't do anything to protect myself if necessary[/QUOTE]
Scotland is not England, your geography skills are lacking.
Bastard's clearly had too much frosty jacks like.
Title read to me like someone hacked their own finger, and being a name there I assumed it was a politician
If this was in America, he would of got life in prison.
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