• Bad news for Iphone 4S: Siri let people allow people to use the phone even if locked
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[quote] The voice-activated feature on the new iPhone 4S will let anyone use the phone to send e-mails and text messages and make calls even if it is passcode locked, Macworld has reported. Try it. Grab a friend's locked iPhone 4S, press the button and ask Siri to do something. I was able to send a text message, make a call and send an e-mail, all without knowing my friend's passcode. Another colleague confirmed that she could get an address and a phone number out of the phone and even see the calendar. There is an easy fix for this situation, which was reported on by Macworld on Friday, followed by security firm Sophos today. In the Passcode Lock settings, switch Siri to "Off" (see below). This lets you continue to use the feature once your iPhone is unlocked, but keeps users from accessing these features when security is enabled. To be clear, the phone is still locked in the sense that someone can't just grab it and make calls to any phone number by dialing. The users Siri lets in aren't able to launch apps, either. We also weren't able to send an e-mail to an address that wasn't in the contact list or to find other data for people who weren't already in the contact list. To disable Siri so it can't be used unless the device is unlocked, you turn Siri "Off" in the Passcode Lock settings. (Credit: Sophos) To some this might seem like old news. Similar capabilities were available by default with the Voice Control feature, which was introduced with the iPhone 3GS in 2009. But it appears on first glance that Siri allows you to do more with a locked iPhone than Voice Control does. In my limited sampling, iPhone 4S owners seem to be shocked to learn about this default Siri setting, so chances are that many people didn't know about the Voice Control default setting either. It's pretty surprising that Apple has the default set to be able to use Siri without unlocking the device. "What's disappointing to me though is that Apple had a clear choice here," Sophos' Graham Cluley writes in a blog post. "They could have chosen to implement Siri securely, but instead they decided to default to a mode which is more about impressing your buddies than securing your calendar and email system." Apple representatives did not immediately respond to e-mails and a phone call seeking comment.[/quote] [url]http://news.cnet.com/8301-27080_3-20122632-245/bad-siri-shell-let-anyone-use-a-locked-iphone-4s[/url]
[quote] they decided to default to a mode which is more about impressing your buddies than securing your calendar and email system.[/quote] Apple, why do you act so uncharacteristically.
From another thread... [img]http://www.joeydevilla.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/iphone-4s-siri-pranks.jpg[/img]
To be fair, it can be turned off, but defaulting it to on without informing the user is dumb. Security should always be top priority.
[QUOTE=demoguy08;32874103]To be fair, it can be turned off, but defaulting it to on without informing the user is dumb. Security should always be top priority.[/QUOTE] Putting security over bling-factor? That's not how Apple rolls
Is it just me or siri is just gimmickery at its best?
[QUOTE=demoguy08;32874103]To be fair, it can be turned off, but defaulting it to on without informing the user is dumb. Security should always be top priority.[/QUOTE] It's the same as with Facebook privacy settings. It's a sad damn world for personal integrity nowadays.
[QUOTE=Im Crimson;32874200]It's the same as with Facebook privacy settings. It's a sad damn world for [B]personal integrity[/B] nowadays.[/QUOTE] Yet I'm still not allowed to flash my junk around in public. This world is fucked up.
[QUOTE=barttool;32874183]Is it just me or siri is just gimmickery at its best?[/QUOTE] It may be, but I use it all the time.
[QUOTE=JinkoMK;32874698]It may be, but I use it all the time.[/QUOTE] I mean seriously, most people wouldn't use it (at least in public) they find it awkward. Picture someone talking to siri in a packed train station, they'd look fucking retarded talking to their phones in front of everyone.
[QUOTE=demoguy08;32874103]To be fair, it can be turned off, but defaulting it to on without informing the user is dumb. Security should always be top priority.[/QUOTE] Security is too mainstream... :v:
Oh Apple, you and your flaws.
Is there a similar function to rm -rf /* for Siri, or does it not perform actions like that? I mean, if it has root access, then you could cause so much shit... It probably doesn't though.
Friend of mine told Siri "Steve Jobs is a faggot and I'm glad he's dead". Siri said "Me too". I kid you not. Anyways, it's dumb that this ability even exists. Or at least, why don't they make Siri "off" by default.
[QUOTE=Terminutter;32875175]Is there a similar function to rm -rf /* for Siri, or does it not perform actions like that? I mean, if it has root access, then you could cause so much shit... It probably doesn't though.[/QUOTE] As far as I know Siri is an application that executes its own commands, it's not a interface that turns your voice into root instructions (like a terminal emulator), so no.
[QUOTE=GlebGuy;32873815]From another thread... [img]http://www.joeydevilla.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/iphone-4s-siri-pranks.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] Made my day and I'm so gonna do this.
[QUOTE=barttool;32874183]Is it just me or siri is just gimmickery at its best?[/QUOTE] To be perfectly honest, it seems better than anything released to Android so far. I use handsfree frequently and the Voice Talk app on my Galaxy S2 is mediocre at best. The problem with voice commands on smart phones is that it works until you decide to launch another application. In Android I can go "Open Spotify" or "Play music" (for the default music player) but after that there is no way of, say, changing song, turning shuffle on and off, raise/lower volume etc. I'm not sure if Siri can do that but if it does it's better than anything Android has to offer at this point.
[QUOTE=barttool;32874807]I mean seriously, most people wouldn't use it (at least in public) they find it awkward. Picture someone talking to siri in a packed train station, they'd look fucking retarded talking to their phones in front of everyone.[/QUOTE] As I said in the apple subforum how the fuck is it awkward talking into a phone. That's what they're for.
[QUOTE=PieClock;32875456]As I said in the apple subforum how the fuck is it awkward talking into a phone. That's what they're for.[/QUOTE] It's not awkward using your phone to talk to a person. On the other hand, talking directly to your phone as it's like a butler makes you look like a loonie.
[QUOTE=PieClock;32875456]As I said in the apple subforum how the fuck is it awkward talking into a phone. That's what they're for.[/QUOTE] Most people don't actually call people now I bet.
[QUOTE=PieClock;32875456]As I said in the apple subforum how the fuck is it awkward talking into a phone. That's what they're for.[/QUOTE] Yeah, phones were invented for lonely and bored idiots to have retarded 'conversations' without somebody to actually talk to. You're right, there's absolutely no difference between talking to somebody on the phone and talking to your phones pre-programmed responses. Definitely meets my standards of awkward and stupid(atleast in public.)
Good job taking my post completely out of context. Unless someone is explicitly listening to your conversation they're not going to know any different. Also what makes you think because the feature exists that you have to use it all the time? I can see this being useful people who drive and whatnot.
[QUOTE=PieClock;32875609]Good job taking my post completely out of context. Unless someone is explicitly listening to your conversation they're not going to know any different.[/QUOTE] So you're gonna stay in your room all time? so ronery
[QUOTE=PieClock;32875609]Good job taking my post completely out of context. Unless someone is explicitly listening to your conversation they're not going to know any different.[/QUOTE] Anybody who is within 15 or 20 feet will definitely be hearing your conversation. Maybe if you're on the move at a decent pace nobodies going to notice your 'chat' on the phone but if your in any public place immobile you're going to look like an absolute jackass.
[QUOTE=Van-man;32875634]So you're gonna stay in your room all time? so ronery[/QUOTE] How the fuck did you come to that conclusion from my post? [QUOTE=HawkeyeTy;32875645]Anybody who is within 15 or 20 feet will definitely be hearing your conversation. [/QUOTE] Right then guess what, that's one of the times you don't use the completely optional feature. Problem solved.
[QUOTE=demoguy08;32875416]To be perfectly honest, it seems better than anything released to Android so far. I use handsfree frequently and the Voice Talk app on my Galaxy S2 is mediocre at best. The problem with voice commands on smart phones is that it works until you decide to launch another application. In Android I can go "Open Spotify" or "Play music" (for the default music player) but after that there is no way of, say, changing song, turning shuffle on and off, raise/lower volume etc. I'm not sure if Siri can do that but if it does it's better than anything Android has to offer at this point.[/QUOTE] [url]http://www.mobiletor.com/2011/10/20/iris-for-android-siri-alternative-for-smartphones-on-the-google-mobile-os/[/url]
[QUOTE=PieClock;32875609] I can see this being useful people who drive and whatnot.[/QUOTE] Hands-free technology on phones, oh joy, more revolutionary ideas from Apple, how'd they think of that!? I understand this is slightly useful, but hands free shit has been made massively available to the market for years. The ONLY thing slightly new about this Siri crap is the fact you can have terrible conversations with it. Which is retarded.
[QUOTE=barttool;32874183]Is it just me or siri is just gimmickery at its best?[/QUOTE] I think the tech is quite impressive, but yeah, personally I wouldn't use it except to show off.
[QUOTE=PieClock;32875609][B]Unless someone is explicitly listening to your conversation[/B] they're not going to know any different. [/QUOTE] ... so you don't do this? I think most people that aren't preoccupied actually to eavesdrop, I do it constantly. I'd feel awkward as fuck standing at a crowded bus stop loudly asking an invisible person to switch song. But then again I'm one of those that still raise an eyebrow at people using handsfree/BT in public.
[QUOTE=faze;32875150]Oh Apple, you and your flaws.[/QUOTE] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9tXDLyeoBE&feature=player_embedded[/media]
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