[QUOTE]At least 11 more bodies have been found dumped around the Mexican city of Veracruz, according to local media reports, two days after the discovery of 35 other corpses in the Gulf port.
The bodies discovered on Thursday were in small groups scattered in various parts of the city, despite high security for a summit of attorneys general and justice officials.
On Tuesday, 35 people with suspected links to drug gangs were murdered and their bodies left in two lorries abandoned under a highway bridge in Boca del Rio, about 5km from the centre of Veracruz.
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Bodies of 35 people with suspected links to drug gangs were found on Tuesday in Veracruz state in eastern Mexico
Daily Milenio, quoting federal sources, said up to 14 bodies were found on Thursday, although other media put the toll at 11.
A banner found near the 35 bodies dumped on Tuesday said the killings were a warning to the Zetas, one of Mexico's most ferocious drug gangs, which has been engaged in a turf war with more established rivals. It was not clear whether the latest killings were reprisals for that attack.
Al Jazeera's Franc Contreras, reporting from Veracruz, said "the bodies were piled up ... showing marks of torture, while body parts were also found".
Violence between rival drug cartels has been heating up in Veracruz, a coffee- and sugar-growing state which had been little affected by the violence until a few months ago.
A group of armed men hurled a grenade into a popular area of the city last month, killing one, and earlier this week, 32 inmates escaped from state jails.
Most of the violence had focused for years on the northern border with the US, but it has spread in recent months to other parts of the country as gangs fracture, old alliances dissolve and smugglers seek new transportation routes.
[B]About 42,000 people have been killed since Felipe Calderon, the Mexican president, launched his war on drug gangs in late 2006.[/B][/QUOTE]
No, this isn't old news, these are new bodies.
Jesus Mexico, this is insanity.
[url]http://english.aljazeera.net/news/americas/2011/09/2011923412346390.html[/url]
I think Obama needs to focus more on what's underneath our nose. I'd think they would be a bigger terrorist threat than any if left unchecked.
Cut off their cash flow by legalizing some shit instead of trying to fight them, they've got more money, guns, and people.
why is this so hard to understand.
[QUOTE=Parakon;32437378]Cut off their cash flow by legalizing some shit instead of trying to fight them, they've got more money, guns, and people.
why is this so hard to understand.[/QUOTE]
I could care less about legalizing it, I just wish they could find the bastards and drag them out of their mansions, millionaires or not.
[QUOTE=Parakon;32437378]Cut off their cash flow by legalizing some shit instead of trying to fight them, they've got more money, guns, and people.
why is this so hard to understand.[/QUOTE]
Their cash flow isn't just Pot you know.
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;32438690]Their cash flow isn't just Pot you know.[/QUOTE]
Weapons dealing, human trafficking, smuggling of contraband, money laundering, prostitution, child-auctions, hit jobs, political bribes, safe-havens for wanted criminals, rigging elections, illegal gambling, the list goes on and on and on.
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;32438690]Their cash flow isn't just Pot you know.[/QUOTE]
where in my post did I say anything about pot.
sweet assumptions bro
[QUOTE=Parakon;32439166]where in my post did I say anything about pot.
sweet assumptions bro[/QUOTE]
So you were actually suggesting we legalise heroin, crack, meth, and all that other shit?
Bad idea.
If I were king of Mexico, I'd have a very hard time resisting the urge to turn it into a police state.
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;32439193]So you were actually suggesting we legalise heroin, crack, meth, and all that other shit?
Bad idea.[/QUOTE]
God forbid people have freedom of choice when it comes to their own body.
It's just business
Mexico seemed like a nice vacation spot. Now it's just raining bodies and seeping corruption.
This year, I'm thinking of going somewhere more chilly and less death.
[QUOTE=Parakon;32439214]God forbid people have freedom of choice when it comes to their own body.[/QUOTE]
Except for the fact that those substances influence brain chemistry and actually lead to people doing fucked up shit to their families and or complete strangers.
I kind of see a problem here.
[QUOTE=Vaught;32439677]Mexico seemed like a nice vacation spot. Now it's just raining bodies and seeping corruption.
This year, I'm thinking of going somewhere more chilly and less death.[/QUOTE]
It is a nice vacation spot. Just don't go deep into mexico. Once they see your american (or non-mexican), they target you.
[QUOTE=Parakon;32437378]Cut off their cash flow by legalizing some shit instead of trying to fight them, they've got more money, guns, and people.
why is this so hard to understand.[/QUOTE]
You do know its primarily cocain they deal with right? Yeah, lets legalize that. Never mind the fact that its compleatly on another level compaired to weed and that it is scientifically known to fuck you up.
aha,
the bodies pile doesn't stop from getting taller
[QUOTE=salty peanut v2;32452280]aha,
the bodies pile doesn't stop from getting taller[/QUOTE]
This would be funny if it wasn't so serious.
[QUOTE=Mr. Smartass;32452330]This would be funny if it wasn't so serious.[/QUOTE]
Yeah well it's serious, bodies keep piling up
[QUOTE=UncleJimmema;32451949]You do know its primarily cocain they deal with right? Yeah, lets legalize that. Never mind the fact that its compleatly on another level compaired to weed and that it is scientifically known to fuck you up.[/QUOTE]
If people want cocain they'll get it
The way things are now it just involves a lot of chrime and a lot of death to get it to people's noses
If it was legal there would be no casualties or chrime involved in the distribution of it
I know a police state is generally considered a bad thing.. but seriously this has to stop, what about the 50 innocent civilians that burned to death because one drug lord wanted to get at another one? seriously mexico doesnt seem to realise they are at war with this people. Marshall law should be introduced there and they should hunt down and kill the gang members, I know it sounds harsh but when is enough going to be enough?
[QUOTE=UncleJimmema;32451949]You do know its primarily cocain they deal with right? Yeah, lets legalize that. Never mind the fact that its compleatly on another level compaired to weed and that it is scientifically known to fuck you up.[/QUOTE]
Plenty of things are "scientifically known to fuck you up", we sell food that will cause heart attacks and alcohol which will ruin virtually any tissue it comes into contact with.
Cigarettes can kill the shit out of you too.
We need to stop it with this "It will hurt people therefore it must be banned" nonsense. People will get the drugs anyway, it isn't stopping anything and all it does in reality is give outlaws a monopoly on sale, since selling it is breaking the law.
"If you outlaw guns only the outlaws will have guns", finely tuned:
"If you outlaw drugs only the outlaws will sell drugs"
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;32439193]So you were actually suggesting we legalise heroin, crack, meth, and all that other shit?
Bad idea.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Miskav;32440546]Except for the fact that those substances influence brain chemistry and actually lead to people doing fucked up shit to their families and or complete strangers.
I kind of see a problem here.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=UncleJimmema;32451949]You do know its primarily cocain they deal with right? Yeah, lets legalize that. Never mind the fact that its compleatly on another level compaired to weed and that it is scientifically known to fuck you up.[/QUOTE]
Hard drug usage decreases when they're legalized.
By legalizing them, you remove the stigma, you remove dealers who create addicts to buy their product, and less people will do it in secrecy.
[URL]http://drugwarfacts.org/cms/?q=node/67[/URL]
[URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arguments_for_and_against_drug_prohibition#Deterrence[/URL]
[URL]http://bjc.oxfordjournals.org/content/50/6/999.abstract[/URL]
[URL]http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2011/07/05/ten-years-after-decriminalization-drug-abuse-down-by-half-in-portugal/[/URL]
God [i]dammit[/i] how come when a thread about the drug war starts, you say "legalize pot" when in reality, the cartels sell a LOT of shit.
[QUOTE=Zambies!;32455091]God [i]dammit[/i] how come when a thread about the drug war starts, you say "legalize pot" when in reality, the cartels sell a LOT of shit.[/QUOTE]
Drugs are a gigantic part of their income. The mafia still had hookers and gambling after prohibition too. Obviously, the mafia didn't survive on those. The drug war came along and gave them a nice financial stimulus.
[QUOTE=Parakon;32437378]Cut off their cash flow by legalizing some shit instead of trying to fight them, they've got more money, guns, and people.
why is this so hard to understand.[/QUOTE]
You're dumb, legalizing this when they have so much power just makes them even more untouchable than they already are as they hold monopoly over it in Mexico.
[QUOTE=Keyblockor;32455532]You're dumb, legalizing this when they have so much power just makes them even more untouchable than they already are as they hold monopoly over it in Mexico.[/QUOTE]
Did you ever stop to think that perhaps we wouldn't need to export our crime if we were able to consume locally? Or from any other country beside Mexico, who has a virtual monopoly?
[QUOTE=LoLWaT?;32455886]People are stupid.
The average teenager would play chicken with a moving train if their friends said it was "cool".
[b]Why do you think so many kids are experimenting with drugs in the first place around Junior High/ High School?[/b][/QUOTE]
Becauses its "hip" and "edgy" and against the law.
[QUOTE=LoLWaT?;32455886]People are stupid.
The average teenager would play chicken with a moving train if their friends said it was "cool".
Why do you think so many kids are experimenting with drugs in the first place around Junior High/ High School?[/QUOTE]
so should we ban trains then????
[QUOTE=AaronM202;32548338]Becauses its "hip" and "edgy" and against the law.[/QUOTE]Remove the "against the law" and you still have the #1 and #2 causes of teenage stupidity.
[QUOTE=Lachz0r;32548432]so should we ban trains then????[/QUOTE]
ban teenagers
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