• Romania protests grow over corruption decree
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[QUOTE][B]The Romanian capital, Bucharest, has seen one of its largest ever anti-government protests after a decree was passed that could free dozens of officials jailed for corruption.[/B] [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/BQtKM99.jpg[/IMG] A crowd of at least 150,000 was reported outside government offices late on Wednesday and rallies took place in other towns and cities. As the protesters dispersed, [U]a group of football supporters threw firecrackers at police[/U] who responded with tear gas. The new government says the decree is needed to ease overcrowding in prisons but Mr Grindeanu's critics say he is trying to release allies convicted of corruption. The unfolding crisis prompted a cabinet minister to resign on Thursday. Demonstrators accused local football hooligans loyal to the ruling party of trying to sabotage their protest by targeting police. Witnesses told the BBC that a group of at least 100 "ultras" threw smoke bombs and stones at police, leaving two police officers and two protesters hurt. The protests began several days ago, attracting the support of centre-right President Klaus Iohannis. He was part of a judicial watchdog's decision on Wednesday to challenge the decree in the constitutional court. Mr Dragnea, 54, has become a focal point for the protesters and is already barred from office because of an earlier suspended jail sentence for voter fraud. The protesters massing in Bucharest on Wednesday night chanted "Resign" and "Thieves, thieves". "Our chances are small but it is important to fight," said architect Gabriela Constantin. President Iohannis praised the conduct of protesters across the country [B]and criticised the authorities' handling of the groups that, as he put it, tried to "break" the Bucharest demonstration.[/B] [/QUOTE] Sources: [URL="http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-38836322"]BBC World News[/URL] [URL="http://edition.cnn.com/2017/02/01/europe/romania-protests/index.html"]CNN[/URL] [URL="http://www.france24.com/en/20170202-hundreds-thousands-protest-romania-over-government-decree-corruption"]France24[/URL]
[url]https://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1550884[/url] Already a thread for it.
I know. I made this thread to show that the protests are growing and won't stop until they stop this and resign.
[quote]Someone came with around 100 tulips. He said he'd like us to help him give them to the gendarmes and thank them for last night, for protecting the protesters from the hooligans. Most of the gendarmes accepted them. The guy on the left said "That's it, this is my baton." [/quote] [img]http://i.imgur.com/EsyNHyW.jpg[/img]
Romania really needs a break from all the corruption and instability ...before ethnic Russians in need of protection start turning up again or something...
[QUOTE=Talishmar;51766137]Romania really needs a break from all the corruption and instability ...before ethnic Russians in need of protection start turning up again or something...[/QUOTE] Romania's army is one of the few ready to face the threat of Russia with the help of the US.
Ceausescu would be laughing his ass off in Hell right about now.
[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C3niAoQWIAAYQQT.jpg[/IMG] The protests in Bucharest. Holy shit, Romania shows us how it's done.
[QUOTE=1239the;51767580][IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C3niAoQWIAAYQQT.jpg[/IMG] The protests in Bucharest. Holy shit, Romania shows us how it's done.[/QUOTE] Look up the 1989 revolution lol.
[QUOTE]The Romanian government says it will withdraw a controversial decree that would have decriminalised some corruption offences.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]Prime Minister Sorin Grindeanu said it would be repealed on Sunday. "I do not want to divide Romania. It can't be divided in two," Mr Grindeanu said in a televised statement. Tens of thousands of flag-waving protesters in central Bucharest cheered his announcement, which came after five consecutive days of demonstrations. The protests in the eastern European country against the decree have been the largest since the fall of communism in 1989.[/QUOTE] Source: [URL="http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-38868736"]BBC World News[/URL] [IMG]http://ichef-1.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/6D98/production/_93965082_94c2ffac-6d43-4a68-aa22-f3a6a3d59e3a.jpg[/IMG] [QUOTE]Demonstrators on Saturday rallied outside the massive parliament building, built by former communist dictator Nicolae Ceausescu[/QUOTE] However until it is written in the official monitor(Where new laws are officially announced or withdrawn), we do not believe their words. They must fall for betraying the progress of our country.
What happens when an EU country becomes incompatible with the EU charter of rights? Poland, Hungary and Romania seen to be taking a corrupt, authoritarian path and will act as another major obstacle for the EU.
[QUOTE=1239the;51767580][IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C3niAoQWIAAYQQT.jpg[/IMG] The protests in Bucharest. Holy shit, Romania shows us how it's done.[/QUOTE] I'm getting late 2013/early 2014 Ukraine vibes from this.
[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmYgrN-Tfs0[/media]
I was looking for some amateur footage. Found this: [video]https://youtu.be/PGo2uE9CJm4[/video]
The government announced tonight they will revoke that decree. Protests will still continue, tomorrow is announced to be the biggest protest yet. Today were 330,000 protesters all over the country btw. Probably even more, but that's what the media reports. [editline]5th February 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=Psychokitten;51776921]I'm getting late 2013/early 2014 Ukraine vibes from this.[/QUOTE] Nah, the protests are very peaceful. The gendarmes are 100% with the people, they're just there to keep peace and protect the protesters. [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/DJ6soFQ.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/nlQ4taw.jpg[/IMG]
I heard about the plans for revocation. Well done Romania!
After every protest there are volunteers staying behind cleaning everything up [video=youtube;hlvCwHG0r3g]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlvCwHG0r3g[/video]
Why don't Americans fight against corruption or see it as important as these people?
[QUOTE=Guriosity;51779898]Why don't Americans fight against corruption or see it as important as these people?[/QUOTE] Romanians have previously overthrown their government before back in '89 so since then many of them care deeply about their government. It's also a much smaller country, with a much more free press and they have high standards of education. It would be hard to compare them effectively to the country that elected Donald Trump.
[QUOTE=Guriosity;51779898]Why don't Americans fight against corruption or see it as important as these people?[/QUOTE] Most corrupt governments aren't stupid enough to actually decriminalize nepotism. I mean that's just asking for it. Had they not done that and just continued denying responsibility for their actions there would probably be no protests, as fucked up as that sounds.
The protests are huger than ever now. 400k in the whole country at the moment. Numbers are increasing constantly. Even if the ordinance was revoked, the protesters want heads to fall for this, the whole government even. Also the Bulgarians are protesting in support of us, in Sofia in front of the RO embassy. If any Bulgarians are reading this: [IMG]http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170204/2d59c2ada7b1d14065c591b31900e26b.jpg[/IMG]
Go Romanians, I wish you all the best.
Half a million in the whole country now, probably even 600k already. Bucharest, 250k in front of the gov building [IMG]https://i.imgur.com/0sb59Zj.jpg[/IMG]
my brother went to the protests in bucharest, and i did in suceava, a city in the north-east felt really damn good
Violent protester broke through the police line [IMG]https://i.imgur.com/xdxVsHp.jpg[/IMG]
[QUOTE=Daniel Smith;51776900]What happens when an EU country becomes incompatible with the EU charter of rights? Poland, Hungary and Romania seen to be taking a corrupt, authoritarian path and will act as another major obstacle for the EU.[/QUOTE] Nothing. You can pretty much see how Spain or Hungary not only not have been kicked out, but also reinforced their deals that the EU have with them. Very sad to be honest. Come on Romanians, you are the example of Europe once again!!!
[video=youtube;Sg05bW8R_uk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sg05bW8R_uk[/video]
[QUOTE=Fantastical;51780797][video=youtube;Sg05bW8R_uk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sg05bW8R_uk[/video][/QUOTE] I'm quite honestly really dissapointed with my parents and with my grandma, they mocked my cousin for going to the protest. If I told my family that I do support this thing then it would've ruined whatever shit image I already had with them. Just to give you an idea of what my parents are like: They think that Nicola Tesla is a Romanian called Nicolo Teslea, they are afraid of technology, they believe that the communist era was way better, to them every conspiracy theory is true, they never fact check anything, they trust bullshit pseudo-science articles more than their own son, no matter how stupid these articles might sound, because apparently somehow drinking whatever wine and beer you have each day cures and prevents all forms of cancer. I honestly told them to stop voting for this party, but my mom said "WE ARE SMARTER THAN YOU, YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO AN OPINION". I wish I could be joking. She said some other nasty things, and I am quite honestly embarassed to even be her own son, I just pretend to get along with my family at this point, I never voice my opinion on anything, it's not worth it, they are just too close minded. They actually had some okay choices to pick from and vote for, but sadly, they are just too blind to think by themselves, so they picked the usual douchebags instead of voting for someone else. What's the point in having a democracy if you keep picking what is clearly the worst option? What's the point of having such a choice if you never pick anything different? I'm glad that this protest is happening, but I really wish people could use their fucking brain for once and inform themselves before voting. This whole thing was avoidable, if only people could stop being so ignorant. My parents are just too full of themselves and I don't understand why they seem to be so afraid of any change.
[QUOTE=RaTcHeT302;51782226]I'm quite honestly really dissapointed with my parents and with my grandma, they mocked my cousin for going to the protest. If I told my family that I do support this thing then it would've ruined whatever shit image I already had with them. Just to give you an idea of what my parents are like: They think that Nicola Tesla is a Romanian called Nicolo Teslea, they are afraid of technology, they believe that the communist era was way better, to them every conspiracy theory is true, they never fact check anything, they trust bullshit pseudo-science articles more than their own son, no matter how stupid these articles might sound, because apparently somehow drinking whatever wine and beer you have each day cures and prevents all forms of cancer. I honestly told them to stop voting for this party, but my mom said "WE ARE SMARTER THAN YOU, YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO AN OPINION". I wish I could be joking. She said some other nasty things, and I am quite honestly embarassed to even be her own son, I just pretend to get along with my family at this point, I never voice my opinion on anything, it's not worth it, they are just too close minded. They actually had some okay choices to pick from and vote for, but sadly, they are just too blind to think by themselves, so they picked the usual douchebags instead of voting for someone else. What's the point in having a democracy if you keep picking what is clearly the worst option? What's the point of having such a choice if you never pick anything different? I'm glad that this protest is happening, but I really wish people could use their fucking brain for once and inform themselves before voting. This whole thing was avoidable, if only people could stop being so ignorant. My parents are just too full of themselves and I don't understand why they seem to be so afraid of any change.[/QUOTE] Don't worry, the same shit happens everywhere. See: the massive divide in age between GOP voters and democrat voters in the U.S. Maybe Sean Lock was right, people over 65 shouldn't be allowed to vote.
[QUOTE=1239the;51782367]Maybe Sean Lock was right, people over 65 shouldn't be allowed to vote.[/QUOTE] I don't know, my parents are fairly young, I don't think it is fair to demonize every old person because of someone else's bad choices, I'm sure there are teenagers who most likely voted for the same type of (terrible) people, who also share the same mindset, there isn't much we can do about it without a proper education system otherwise, most people are just not willing to learn by themselves. I can't blame my parents, but I do wish they could at least be a tiny bit more open minded, instead of being 100% full of themselves all the time. You'd think they could trust their own son but they would rather listen to whatever garbage they see on their Facebook feeds. In my country disagreeing with anyone who is older than you is often considered as being rude. I don't really get it, but I was often considered an idiot whenever I had completely different opinions with most people, even though I had actual arguments and actual logic, I was just muted and ignored or pointlessly mocked for no reason at all. I find it sad when I see children who have better and smarter thoughts than their own parents, I often end up agreeing with children more than with the parents, ironically.
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