Lawmakers 'suspicious' administration 'trying to hide' Libya attack details
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Lawmakers 'suspicious' administration 'trying to hide' Libya attack details September 27, 2012
[quote] Fresh claims that U.S. intelligence officials knew practically from the start that the attack on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi was terrorism possibly tied to Al Qaeda have lawmakers alleging they were misled and questioning whether the administration has something to hide.
"This is turning into something not short of Benghazi-gate," Sen. Bob Corker, R-Tenn., told Fox News, adding he's "very suspicious" about the way the administration has handled this.
Two senior U.S. officials told Fox News on Thursday that U.S. intelligence officials knew within 24 hours of the assault that it was a terrorist attack and suspected Al Qaeda-tied elements were involved.
The account sharply conflicted with claims by U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Susan Rice on the Sunday after the attack that the administration believed the strike was a "spontaneous" event triggered by protests in Egypt over an anti-Islam film.
"The best information and the best assessment we have today is that in fact this was not a preplanned, premeditated attack -- that what happened initially was it was a spontaneous reaction to what had just transpired in Cairo as a consequence of the video," Rice said on "Fox News Sunday" at the time.
Rep. Mac Thornberry, R-Texas, a member of the House intelligence committee, said that's consistent with what lawmakers were told in briefings.
"If there was information a day after that was to the contrary, I think Congress was misled," Thornberry told Fox News. "But again, it's even more serious than that. It means that we have a real problem in not being able to face up to the national security challenges our country faces."
Corker also said a briefing he and his colleagues received was "worthless," and he demanded "answers" about the changing story.
"This has now turned into a very bipartisan concern," he said. "There has to be something that they're trying to hide or cover up. ... This is just not the norm. This is way out of the norm, what is happening in this case."
Democratic and Republican lawmakers on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, on which Corker sits, sent a letter to the State Department Thursday asking a string of new questions about security at U.S. diplomatic posts.
President Obama's aides have denied any attempt to cover things up. "No one either intentionally or unintentionally misled anyone involved in this," campaign adviser Robert Gibbs said on "Fox News Sunday." "No one wants to get to the bottom of this more than we do."
Curiously, Obama referred to "acts of terror" in his first public remarks about the attack. But from there, administration officials went on to blame the anti-Islam film.
Rice was the most explicit in that explanation, insisting in those Sunday shows that the attack was not pre-planned and was tied to the film. Obama still has not publicly and specifically described the Benghazi attack as terrorism.
But top administration officials have gradually walked back Rice's version of events. Defense Secretary Leon Panetta was the latest Thursday to declare: "It was a terrorist attack."
Secretary of State Hillary Clinton reportedly suggested Wednesday to foreign leaders visiting the United Nations summit in New York that the Al Qaeda affiliate in North Africa was involved.
She was referring to Al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb. That's the group that, according to senior officials, the intelligence community suspected by Sept. 12, the day after the attack, of being involved -- along with the militant Ansar al-Shariah.
Officials also confirmed they had several "intelligence assets" on the ground to track Ansar al-Shariha and Al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb. They said the attack was labeled as terrorism from the start in order to free up certain resources. Specifically, it was labeled under the "Authorization for the Use of Military Force Against Terrorists" category, created by a post-9/11 congressional action.
Clinton earlier this week called the attack terrorism, two weeks after the fact. White House Press Secretary Jay Carney also said that Obama now believes it was terrorism as well.
Yet a congressional source told Fox News that CIA Director David Petraeus, during a briefing with members of the House Intelligence Committee three days after the attack, also espoused the view that Benghazi was an out-of-control demonstration prompted by the YouTube video. According to the source, this was "shocking" to some members who were present and saw the same intelligence pointing toward a terrorist attack.
In addition, sources confirm that FBI agents have not yet arrived in Benghazi in the aftermath of the attack. Four Americans, including U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens, were killed in the assault.
One intelligence official clarified to Fox News that there was not a "definitive" lead on who might have been responsible for the Libya attacks in the immediate aftermath, though officials had an idea of the suspects.
"It's inaccurate to suggest that within the first 24 hours there was a definitive calling card and home address for the perpetrators of the Benghazi attack. Potential suspects and data points emerge early on, but it still takes time to be certain who is responsible," the official said.[/quote]
Source: [url]http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/09/27/lawmakers-uspicious-administration-trying-to-hide-libya-attack-details[/url]
Oh look another sensationalist headline...
"Lawmakers" are "partisan bickering asshats" according to internet forum goer.
Edit: don't fucking say it.
Saw the title, should have seen source and poster coming.
Maybe, but did you consider why the article even exists?
In my opinion, because this article exists it shows that the Obama administration may be less competent than even Jimmy Carter's and George W. Bush's Combined.
Even if that's not the case, the fact remains that Obama himself won't admit that the attacks were Terrorism and continues to blame that video on Youtube.
[QUOTE=Glaber;37829581]Maybe, but did you consider why the article even exists?
In my opinion, because this article exists it shows that the Obama administration may be less competent than even Jimmy Carter's and George W. Bush's Combined.
Even if that's not the case, the fact remains that Obama himself won't admit that the attacks were Terrorism and continues to blame that video on Youtube.[/QUOTE]
Lets assume you are correct and that the origin is known to be terrorists.
Privately, it can be assumed actions are being taken one way or another based on what intel is available.
Publicly, even if you know, telling people would actively be a terrible decision. You run the risk of further provoking action from civilians in other nations by claiming they are the puppets of terrorism, and, more than that, you give credit to the terrorist group responsible and further their agenda.
Given that their agenda is terror, intentionally sidelining everything they do is the most effective means of combating them available.
That is assuming this is true, of course, which frankly I doubt. Knowing about it and then intentionally not blaming the organization that is responsible in order to fuck them over, would be a level of competence and complexity I don't expect to see from any government.
Ah, but to continue to blame the video and try to have Google themselves remove it (They refused), not to mention arresting the person responsible for the video in California in the middle of the night makes him look like he's bowing to their beliefs and demands. Even if the arrest was for reasons other than the video, it still provides conspiracy fuel.
Now if Obama is sidelining, he's doing an even poorer job than Jimmy Carter did at negotiations for freeing hostages.
:tinfoil: for Glaber until we see real & hard evidence.
[QUOTE=Glaber;37829658]Ah, but to continue to blame the video and try to have Google themselves remove it (They refused), [/QUOTE]
[quote=latimes]In a sign of the tensions the movie has sparked, Los Angeles County officials said the U.S. State Department had asked them not to release copies of the film permits containing information about who organized the shoot. Obama administration officials also flagged the trailer to YouTube and asked the company to review whether it violated the website's terms of service.[/quote]
[url]http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-filmmaker-20120914,0,6397127.story[/url]
That is a pretty tame attempt at removing the video. Seeing as the video remained up and the government pursued no further action, I'm not inclined to see how it pertains to anything. No government power was used.
[quote]not to mention arresting the person responsible for the video in California in the middle of the night makes him look like he's bowing to their beliefs and demands. Even if the arrest was for reasons other than the video, it still provides conspiracy fuel.[/quote]
The State of California arrested him for probation violation. Not only was it [I]not[/I] the federal government, but the feds can't legally intervene.
[quote]Now if Obama is sidelining, he's doing an even poorer job than Jimmy Carter did at negotiations for freeing hostages.[/quote]
How does Carter play into anything at all here?
Normally, I'd be making a big deal about putting the country in the title.
But this is Glaber and Fox News, I'm not sure either of them are aware of the existence of other countries sometimes. So why bother
(the country still should have been in there.)
I wish we had flag emblems for thread icons.
[QUOTE=GunFox;37829836]I wish we had flag emblems for thread icons.[/QUOTE]
And while we are at it, thread icons for the source as well.
[quote] U.S. intelligence officials knew practically from the start that the attack on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi was terrorism possibly tied to Al Qaeda[/quote]
Yes, they practically knew that it was possibly them.
If you will excuse me I am going to study for a test which I certainly know possibly most of the answers at least.
Hey I think 'scare quotes' don't really add 'anything' to this 'article'
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[QUOTE=smurfy;37834020]Republicans 'desperately clinging on' to 'anything they can find' as Obama win 'inevitable'[/QUOTE]
Glaber posts 'news threads' regardless of 'facts' and 'substantiation' in response, 'Fox News viewers' in 'shambles'.
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[QUOTE=Megafan;37834159]Glaber posts 'news threads' regardless of 'facts' and 'substantiation' in response, 'Fox News viewers' in 'shambles'.[/QUOTE]
His source also shows suicides live on national television for every child to see, I've never been so traumatized by such an event in my life. I demand a formal apology from the head of FOX NEWS for such a disgusting display.
His apology is accepted.
Dude, They did apologize. Go check the topic about that.
Also the topic's title is only a direct copy of the article's.
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