• Iran Military Exercise simulates capture of Al-Aqsa Mosque in Jerusalem
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[URL]http://news.yahoo.com/iran-guard-simulates-capture-al-aqsa-mosque-072202482.html[/URL] [QUOTE]Thousands of paramilitary forces from Iran's powerful Revolutionary Guard have held a war game simulating the capture of Jerusalem's Al-Aqsa Mosque from Israeli control, state media reported Saturday. The symbolic operations were backed up by Guard helicopters, drones and Tucano planes that bombed hypothetical enemy positions before ground troops captured the replica of the mosque set up at the top of a mountain. It said forces stormed and "liberated" a replica of the mosque in the exercise. They say that 120 brigades from the Basij, the paramilitary unit of the Guard, participated in Friday's exercise outside the holy city of Qom in central Iran. [/QUOTE]
Tucano planes? Like the propeller ones? How good is Irans airforce?
im sure israel [I]cant[/I] shoot down shitty fucking propeller planes israel prob. has AA thats alot better than iran's planes
You guys do realise that propeller doesn't mean that they are shit right?
[QUOTE=DJrorok;49157967]Tucano planes? Like the propeller ones? How good is Irans airforce?[/QUOTE] tucanos are trainer planes so that is probably why they used them in a training exercise [editline]21st November 2015[/editline] unless i am mistaken and they do regularly fly them in their airforce
[QUOTE=Jame's;49158850]You guys do realise that propeller doesn't mean that they are shit right?[/QUOTE] Propeller aircraft are not survivable against any missile AA, and they're very vulnerable to gun AA. Against a modern air defence network like Israel's (or hell, anyone with MANPADs), they're dead meat. This Exercise is purely propaganda, Iran has no realistic way of striking at Israel. Their aircraft are obsolescent, Israel's ADN is fantastic, and the ranges involved and the lack of Iranian support assets like tankers means that any Iranian strike on Israel would be infeasible. This is more to keep the population at home sweet than making any real international statement.
[QUOTE=Jame's;49158850]You guys do realise that propeller doesn't mean that they are shit right?[/QUOTE] I do not know man, I was told wooden planes are not easily detected by radar.
Going to guess they didn't simulate the part where by the time their forces reach it there is no oxygen in the air and their homeland is a ghost town.
[QUOTE=Mallow234;49159026]Propeller aircraft are not survivable against any missile AA, and they're very vulnerable to gun AA. Against a modern air defence network like Israel's (or hell, anyone with MANPADs), they're dead meat. This Exercise is purely propaganda, Iran has no realistic way of striking at Israel. Their aircraft are obsolescent, Israel's ADN is fantastic, and the ranges involved and the lack of Iranian support assets like tankers means that any Iranian strike on Israel would be infeasible. This is more to keep the population at home sweet than making any real international statement.[/QUOTE] [thumb]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4f/C-130_Hercules_10.jpg[/thumb] I'd say this is pretty survivable, not all propeller aircraft are awful.
[QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;49159017]tucanos are trainer planes so that is probably why they used them in a training exercise [editline]21st November 2015[/editline] unless i am mistaken and they do regularly fly them in their airforce[/QUOTE] actually tucanos are also used for counter-insurgency, its a brazilian plane.
[QUOTE=MissZoey;49160271][thumb]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4f/C-130_Hercules_10.jpg[/thumb] I'd say this is pretty survivable, not all propeller aircraft are awful.[/QUOTE] That's a Cargo plane, if it's being shot up by AA, someone fucked up [I]bad[/I]. The Attack variant is only used in places where there isn't good / any AA threat, such as against the NVA in Vietnam or Insurgents in the Middle East. Even against the NVA big slow planes like that would be shredded by AA guns and have to abort their mission or crash. It would not fair well if we used them against a well-equipped military and they're going to be phased out soon because they're obsolete.
ya sure, just use bombers and missiles around fragile 2000 year old rock structures, by the time you're done dickwaving with HE there won't be a mosque, cave, dome of the rock, or wailing wall to gloat over, just a pile of rubble like palmyra fucking imbeciles, you'd think they'd take a lesson from ISIS and not threaten to destroy historical sites like this
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;49160574]That's a Cargo plane, if it's being shot up by AA, someone fucked up [I]bad[/I]. The Attack variant is only used in places where there isn't good / any AA threat, such as against the NVA in Vietnam or Insurgents in the Middle East. Even against the NVA big slow planes like that would be shredded by AA guns and have to abort their mission or crash. It would not fair well if we used them against a well-equipped military and they're going to be phased out soon because they're obsolete.[/QUOTE] there was actually an ac-130 that was shot down by a MANPADS during the battle of khafji, "spirit 03"
[QUOTE=The golden;49159043][t]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a6/Iran_Revolutionary_Guard_Air_Force_Embraer_EMB-312_Tucano.jpg[/t] They are a turboprop plane. They can carry up to 2,000lbs of payload, including bombs and rocket pods. It can also fly up to 450kph. It's not going to compete with a jetfighter no, but I certainly wouldn't want one after me.[/QUOTE] Are they cheap for what they do?
[QUOTE=Sableye;49160605]ya sure, just use bombers and missiles around fragile 2000 year old rock structures, by the time you're done dickwaving with HE there won't be a mosque, cave, dome of the rock, or wailing wall to gloat over, just a pile of rubble like palmyra fucking imbeciles, you'd think they'd take a lesson from ISIS and not threaten to destroy historical sites like this[/QUOTE] Wahabis hate the dome of the rock. They want to destroy it
[QUOTE=proboardslol;49160919]Wahabis hate the dome of the rock. They want to destroy it[/QUOTE] Iran isn't Wahhabi. Iran hates Wahhabis just as much as the rest of the world.
[QUOTE=Funcoot;49160890]Are they cheap for what they do?[/QUOTE] Incredibly. They also have very cheap running costs, not to mention maintenance. It's why tucanos and similar turboprops are actually seeing a revival in missions that are dealing with insurgents, CAS and similar things. You wouldn't want to use them against a modern military that's expecting an airforce, but against guerilla's, al quada or something similar? Go for it. Consider it a faster helicopter and use it in similar settings.
Oh look a Tucano Hope my fucking David's Sling Missile flying Mach 7.5 doesn't hit it [IMG_thumb]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fe/Nov._20%2C_2012_-_David%27s_Sling_Weapons_System_Stunner_Missile_intercepts_target_during_inaugural_flight_test_%281%29.jpg[/IMG_thumb]
One point worth bringing up is that Israel's general opposition to the Iran nuclear deal was that Iran has a hardon for destroying Israel. There are a lot of people claiming Iran doesn't really want to destroy Israel, and that it's mostly pro-Israeli sources intentionally mistranslating or misrepresenting what Iran is actually saying. And then there's this.
[QUOTE=ScumBunny;49163155]One point worth bringing up is that Israel's general opposition to the Iran nuclear deal was that Iran has a hardon for destroying Israel. There are a lot of people claiming Iran doesn't really want to destroy Israel, and that it's mostly pro-Israeli sources intentionally mistranslating or misrepresenting what Iran is actually saying. And then there's this.[/QUOTE] The issue about the Iran deal is what's the alternative? Another war in the middle east with them to stop them from getting nukes, because the sanctions weren't stopping them from getting nukes. Ya Iran is being very stupid about their posturing especially now when half the damn middle East is burning or in ruins, but they are implementing the deal on schedule and once they cement up their reactor and dismantle the centrifuges as required by treaty we will have a long time to prevent them from pursuing a bomb program again
Well, derailing the thread into another discussion about the nuclear deal was honestly no tmy intention. I just wanted to point to the fact that despite claims to the contrary Iran does officially and pretty persistently demonstrate they want to destroy the state of Israel. But since you asked, I think Israel's official position was that the very effective embargo on Iran should have been used to force Iran into a stricter and better supervised deal.
[QUOTE=ScumBunny;49163466]Well, derailing the thread into another discussion about the nuclear deal was honestly no tmy intention. I just wanted to point to the fact that despite claims to the contrary Iran does officially and pretty persistently demonstrate they want to destroy the state of Israel. But since you asked, I think Israel's official position was that the very effective embargo on Iran should have been used to force Iran into a stricter and better supervised deal.[/QUOTE] To be fair just about every country east of Greece wants to destroy Israel, that isn't unique to Iran.
I wonder if anyone would try to justify it if Israel held a massive wargame simulating taking over Mecca and surrounding sites, or something like that. This Acton is nothing short of a threat, if not blatant preparation for an attack. Great timing Iran..
[QUOTE=The golden;49159043][t]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a6/Iran_Revolutionary_Guard_Air_Force_Embraer_EMB-312_Tucano.jpg[/t] They are a turboprop plane. They can carry up to 2,000lbs of payload, including bombs and rocket pods. It can also fly up to 450kph. It's not going to compete with a jetfighter no, but I certainly wouldn't want one after me.[/QUOTE] Looks like a slightly futuristic extrapolation of World War II fighters.
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