• Argentina's President Fernandez demands Falklands talks
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[quote][img]http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/img/1_0_1/cream/hi/news/news-blocks.gif[/img] Argentina's President Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner has demanded that Britain enter negotiations over the sovereignty of the Falkland Islands. President Fernandez was addressing the UN Committee on Decolonisation on the 30th anniversary of the UK territory's liberation from Argentine occupation. She said history and geography backed Argentina's claim. But an islander told the committee Argentina was "bullying". UK Prime Minister David Cameron has said there would be "no negotiation". Earlier on Thursday, the Falklands marked the end Argentina's 74-day 1982 occupation with a service at Port Stanley's Christ Church cathedral. Veterans of the war then led a military parade to the Liberation Monument for an act of remembrance, paying tribute to the 255 UK servicemen and three Falklands civilians who died in the war. An estimated 650 Argentines were also killed during the conflict. The BBC's Barbara Plett said President Fernandez made as much as she could of her platform at the United Nations, where a majority backs Argentina's demand that the Falklands' status be negotiated. The president was accompanied by more than 90 delegates and raised the diplomatic stakes by travelling to New York personally on the sensitive anniversary of the islands' liberation, our correspondent said. President Fernandez said that the Malvinas - as Argentina refers to the islands - formed part of the South American continental plate. "How can it be claimed that, 14,000 kilometres away [8,700 miles], that it can be part of the British territory?" she asked. "The UK is benefiting from its privileged position as a permanent member of the security council of the United Nations," she said. "The issue of the Malvinas is a challenge to see whether or not we are capable of overcoming prejudice and cliches that are outdated, because the world has changed and there are new players." President Fernandez said Argentina was "just asking to talk" about the islands' sovereignty and the fact they were still under British rule was "an affront to the world which we all dream of". 'Lust for lands' Two Falkland Islands legislators also spoke at the same session, where they insisted on their right to self-determination. Legislator Mike Summers said Falkland Islanders had a "distinct and clear identity" and considered the islands to be their country and home. "As much as Argentina might like to airbrush us out of existence to satisfy its unjustified lust for our lands, such behaviour belongs to another era and should not be tolerated in the modern world," he said. Mr Summers tried to pass a letter offering talks with the Falklands government to President Fernandez but could not get close enough. Argentina's foreign minister refused to take the document telling the legislator to "send it to my embassy". In a speech at the Falkland Islands Government reception on Thursday evening, David Cameron spoke of "aggression from over the water". "My message to the government of Argentina is this: the UK has no aggressive intentions towards you. "Accusations of militarisation and nuclear threats are hyperbole and propaganda. "But do not under-estimate our resolve," he added. "Threats will not work, attempts to intimidate the islanders will not succeed, because Britain stands ready and willing to stand up for the Falkland Islanders at any time. "As long as they wish to remain a British territory, that is the way it will stay." Mr Cameron paid tribute to the bravery of those who served in the Falklands and said Britain would always be in their debt. Foreign Office minister Jeremy Browne attended the service in Port Stanley. He said it was "hard to convey" to the wider world "just how much this means to the Falkland Islanders". "There are hundreds of people gathered here in what is frankly really freezing cold, inhospitable weather, and they are doing that because they are so grateful for what we achieved on their behalf 30 years ago," he said. In London the Falklands' flag flew over government buildings. [/quote] [b]SOURCE:[/b] [url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18453372[/url] She can [b]demand[/b] all she wants, but I don't see why the UK should even consider budging on this issue. Argentina is hilariously out-gunned, and any attempt to do anything on the diplomatic front would warrant nary a response from anyone, considering that Argentina is the only nation bleeting about this at all.
They should pull a US Government. Every time Argentina makes a demand about _____, they respond by saying they can't / won't, then outline their established policy regarding _____.
I don't know how they can keep thinking it's theirs.... The Islanders identify themselves as British
I demand that Argentina gives ups and gives me the power of supreme ruler of Argentina.
If I were the Falkanders, I'd put up a big sign that you can read from Argentina that says "Up yours Cristina!"
[QUOTE=The golden;36336539]Don't the people of the Falklands prefer being under British rule? Shouldn't the choice be up to those who live in the actual goddamn Falkland islands?[/QUOTE] No because Argentina is still run by a butthurt dime whore.
and the last time we had talks with argentinia over the falklands, the argies didn't like that the ruling was in their favour and threw a hissy fit.
I always root for the underdog. Go Argentina. Yay... You guys have no love for Argentina. :'c
She needs a re-election banner and this would give her a chance but theres no way the UK will ever give those islands up as its been paid for with blood and has oil under it. Argentina has never owned those islands and the Spanish only ever had a small colony on it. Theres more chance of them giving up London. UK prime minister today is flying the Falklands flag over number 10 Downing street so I guess that botox face president has her answer.
[QUOTE=Burgervich;36336801]I always root for the underdog. Go Argentina. Yay... You guys have no love for Argentina. :'c[/QUOTE] If they were actually the underdogs, and not, you know, the dickish, pathetic wannabe bully, people would have much more sympathy for them. They're basically the equivilant of a wannabe gangsta wigga telling you to hand over your lunch money or he'll beat you up.
Sometimes I think Argentina is just trying to start another war... maybe to hide their failing government and economic situation again.
last time we talked about the falklands they invaded anyway.
[QUOTE=Burgervich;36336801]I always root for the underdog. Go Argentina. Yay... You guys have no love for Argentina. :'c[/QUOTE] Becuase they're the bad guys here, the islanders want to be british.
[QUOTE=fingerinmum;36336830]She needs a re-election banner and this would give her a chance but theres no way the UK will ever give those islands up as its been paid for with blood and has oil under it. Argentina has never owned those islands and the Spanish only ever had a small colony on it. Theres more chance of them giving up London. UK prime minister today is flying the Falklands flag over number 10 Downing street so I guess that botox face president has her answer.[/QUOTE] We're not there for the oil and we don't hold them for the oil. We didn't even know about it originally. If we tapped those reserves we wouldn't see a penny, nay the oil is too far from us to even put a dent in our prices. Argentina should stop throwing a fit so we could let them get a cut of the profits of the oil by refining it from the Falklands reserves, both countries make money that way and profit from it. The reason we hold onto the Falklands is because we've paid the price in blood to protect our people there, and if they choose to be British they will be protected by us.
What would they gain from being given a nation full of British people who want to be British? A massive civil unrest problem, for one. They should just give up, this military junta idea probably won't work again. Most of Argentina knows what happened last time and what would happen again.
Do people in the Falklands have an English accent?
[QUOTE=Jon27;36340154]What would they gain from being given a nation full of British people who want to be British? A massive civil unrest problem, for one. They should just give up, this military junta idea probably won't work again. Most of Argentina knows what happened last time and what would happen again.[/QUOTE] oil. lots of it. maybe instead of spending a shitload on their military and trying to get back the falklands they could just develop some renewable energies lol i dunno
[QUOTE=Officer brown;36340294]Do people in the Falklands have an English accent?[/QUOTE] They probably have their own unique Falkland accent/dialect, as many island people do. I'm certain they speak English though.
[QUOTE=Officer brown;36340294]Do people in the Falklands have an English accent?[/QUOTE] Yes. They probably have a distinct accent but its mostly English.
[QUOTE=dunkace;36337034]Sometimes I think Argentina is just trying to start another war... maybe to hide their failing government and economic situation again.[/QUOTE] Look throughout history for all countries which are suffering from political instability, they often went to war just to try and unite the people and hope for a win
[QUOTE=Officer brown;36340294]Do people in the Falklands have an English accent?[/QUOTE] There many be some tiny differences but pretty much yeah. Here's a Falklands politician announcing the sovereignty referendum [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJBX55OuA_0[/media]
As an Argentinian I can tell you that your first lesson in History class is about the Falklands and how they were "stolen by the British." Which was never the case, since its all propaganda bullshit anyway. They are using this to distract Argentinians from its failing economy.
This is one of those things they really want, but if they ever got it they would not use it. Its only purpose is to act as a home for the people living there already.
President Fernandez: Hold a referendum! [b]STAY WITH THE UNITED KINGDOM OF GREAT BRITAIN AND NORTHERN IRELAND[/b]: 97% [b]JOIN THE REPUBLIC OF ARGENTINA[/b]: 3% President Fernandez: Hold talks! [b]UN Votes in favor of the United Kingdom[/b] President Fernandez: Fuck you [b]>:([/b] Argentine diplomacy in a nutshell.
[QUOTE=Zambies!;36345041]President Fernandez: Hold a referendum! [b]STAY WITH THE UNITED KINGDOM OF GREAT BRITAIN AND NORTHERN IRELAND[/b]: 97% [b]JOIN THE REPUBLIC OF ARGENTINA[/b]: 3% President Fernandez: Hold talks! [b]UN Votes in favor of the United Kingdom[/b] President Fernandez: Fuck you [b]>:([/b] Argentine diplomacy in a nutshell.[/QUOTE] I'm shocked there was even a 3% for Argentina.
That's just lampooning data. :v: I think it would probably be 99+ to be honest.
There's been a lot of talking, and everyone has agreed that the Argentinian claim holds no merit. If one side won't listen, why keep talking?
[QUOTE=zombojoe;36344042]As an Argentinian I can tell you that your first lesson in History class is about the Falklands and how they were "stolen by the British." Which was never the case, since its all propaganda bullshit anyway. They are using this to distract Argentinians from its failing economy.[/QUOTE] More like stolen by the Argentinians...
hey, Fernandez, hey fuck off
Basically she's using this to distract from any attention on how shit a job she's doing for her country, and trying to get Argentinians to find a common enemy in the British. That or there's either some fancy land/oil/drilling/mining etc to whomever owns the islands.
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