• Obama praises Sanders' small dollar fundraising campaign
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[QUOTE]President Obama on Thursday praised Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders for relying on small donations to fund his campaign. [B]The president told college journalists at an impromptu news conference at the White House that Sanders’s grassroots fundraising efforts could help restore voters’ faith in the democratic system. “You’ve got to give Bernie Sanders, for example, credit — building off some of the work I did; I, in turn, built off the work that Howard Dean did — for smaller donations, grassroots donors, to build up small contributions to allow candidates to be competitive,” Obama said.[/B] It’s uncommon for Obama to single out Sanders for praise. He hasn’t endorsed a candidate in the Democratic presidential primary, but it’s widely believed he favors his former secretary of State, Hillary Clinton. [/QUOTE] [URL="http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/278088-obama-praises-sanderss-small-dollar-fundraising-operation"]http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/278088-obama-praises-sanderss-small-dollar-fundraising-operation[/URL]
Thanks Obama
[QUOTE=Duck M.;50227440]Thanks Obama[/QUOTE] Too little, too late. For once I can actually say: Thaaaaanks Obama
[QUOTE=1/4 Life;50227508]Too little, too late.[/QUOTE] I think that's the point. (Hillary's basically guaranteed the nomination at this point, time to woo the Sanders supporters to still vote for the Democrats, especially because Hillary and her campaign have been doing an absolutely shit job at that.)
He raises some reasonable points in the article but I'm pretty skeptical that it will help people restore faith in the democratic process. If anything I'd wager it could do the opposite.
I think Obama did the same didn't he?
[QUOTE=MuTAnT;50227859]He raises some reasonable points in the article but I'm pretty skeptical that it will help people restore faith in the democratic process. If anything I'd wager it could do the opposite.[/QUOTE] His points are almost irrelevant. This election showed that the democratic process is subordinate to the Democratic process, and a small grassroots candidate, even with ample funding from small donors, still has to fight an extraordinarily difficult uphill battle against the Party itself.
[QUOTE=DaMastez;50227689]I think that's the point. (Hillary's basically guaranteed the nomination at this point, time to woo the Sanders supporters to still vote for the Democrats, especially because Hillary and her campaign have been doing an absolutely shit job at that.)[/QUOTE] Exactly. Literal definition of faltering praise.
I would be incredibly upset is Obama or others decided to endorse sanders at the last minute
maybe had he done this at the start he would have had a better chance
[QUOTE=theevilldeadII;50228034]maybe had he done this at the start he would have had a better chance[/QUOTE] Well that's why he didn't do it at the start.
[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;50227929]I would be incredibly upset is Obama or others decided to endorse sanders at the last minute[/QUOTE] I don't think he would. He seems pretty adamant on staying as neutral as he can be during this election. Well, publicly. I'm sure he has his own private preference, just as I wouldn't be surprised if Biden is a private Sanders supporter.
Doesn't mean shit to the DNC because they aren't getting the 33k donations to each of the state parties Bernie really did show how to run a modern campaign, it's too bad people paid more attention to Hillary instead of his message
[QUOTE=catbarf;50227906]His points are almost irrelevant. This election showed that the democratic process is subordinate to the Democratic process, and a small grassroots candidate, even with ample funding from small donors, still has to fight an extraordinarily difficult uphill battle against the Party itself.[/QUOTE] Maybe if he joined the Democratic Party a long time ago he would have done better.
[QUOTE]The president told college journalists at an impromptu news conference at the White House that Sanders’s grassroots fundraising efforts could help restore voters’ faith in the democratic system.[/QUOTE] And being crushed by the establishment will promptly destroy it again. We had a good run, but it's soon time to return to the status quo. [sp]Unless we get a deus ex machina and the FBI indicts at the last minute.[/sp]
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;50228802]Maybe if he joined the Democratic Party a long time ago he would have done better.[/QUOTE] If a grassroots candidate can share the overwhelming majority of his ideals with the political party, but not get a fair shot at candidacy unless he's spent years or decades ingratiating himself to the Party leadership, then Obama's words are just fluff.
[QUOTE=catbarf;50228978]If a grassroots candidate can share the overwhelming majority of his ideals with the political party, but not get a fair shot at candidacy unless he's spent years or decades ingratiating himself to the Party leadership, then Obama's words are just fluff.[/QUOTE] Well a huge volume of voters for Bernie in the primaries were actually independents, not Democrats. Registered Democrats like the Democrat Clinton, while independents like the just-prior-to-running independent Sanders.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;50228802]Maybe if he joined the Democratic Party a long time ago he would have done better.[/QUOTE] Him being in the democratic party would have had literally no impact on him other than lessening his outsider appeal. He would still have been a relatively unknown senator and the DNC still would have disliked him for not fundraising for the democratic party and still would have favored Hillary Clinton. Democrats don't know Hillary because she is a democrat. They know Hillary because she's a democrat politician who has been in the front of the spotlight for decades.
[QUOTE=Aztec;50229101]Him being in the democratic party would have had literally no impact on him other than lessening his outsider appeal. He would still have been a relatively unknown senator and the DNC still would have disliked him for not fundraising for the democratic party and still would have favored Hillary Clinton. Democrats don't know Hillary because she is a democrat. They know Hillary because she's a democrat politician who has been in the front of the spotlight for decades.[/QUOTE] Him being in the Democratic Party could have helped him gain more friends within the party leadership that could have had more effect for his campaign. No, I doubt it would have swung him a clear victory over Clinton, but being an outsider completely to the party prior to running (even if he had voted along the Democratic Party line for the most part all these years) was clearly a hindrance to him.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;50229173]Him being in the Democratic Party could have helped him gain more friends within the party leadership that could have had more effect for his campaign. No, I doubt it would have swung him a clear victory over Clinton, but being an outsider completely to the party prior to running (even if he had voted along the Democratic Party line for the most part all these years) was clearly a hindrance to him.[/QUOTE] He's been a known ally of the democratic party for almost his entire career. He isn't a total outsider. I really doubt you would have seen any amount of difference in endorsements.
[QUOTE=Aztec;50229229]He's been a known ally of the democratic party for almost his entire career. He isn't a total outsider. I really doubt you would have seen any amount of difference in endorsements.[/QUOTE] There's a big difference between being an ally and being part of.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;50229234]There's a big difference between being an ally and being part of.[/QUOTE] Not really. Cruz is a part of the Republican party and he is despised. Boehner called him Lucifer the other day. Hillary Clinton was going to be the democratic pick no matter what, the party has been gearing up for this since she lost.
Cruz also has a slew of GOP supporters, though? Look at all the endorsements he's had.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;50229430]Cruz also has a slew of GOP supporters, though? Look at all the endorsements he's had.[/QUOTE] That isn't my point though. The GOP doesn't have a strong preference on a candidate. Their preference going into this season was Romney and he declined, then it was Bush and he got decimated, then it was Rubio and he got slaughtered. Hillary was and is and always has been the choice of the DNC and I severely doubt he would have gotten much additional support simply for having a tick box in a party affiliation. He's worked closely with democrats his entire career and many of them like and respect him. I mean hell, Elizabeth Warren practically shares his entire platform and she will not even endorse him.
Next time say it when it matters, not after the fact.
[QUOTE=Reshy;50229944]Next time say it when it matters, not after the fact.[/QUOTE] You guys are still thinking this is meant to be an endorsement and not Obama shoring up good faith with Sanders supporters.
[QUOTE=Raidyr;50231286]You guys are still thinking this is meant to be an endorsement and not Obama shoring up good faith with Sanders supporters.[/QUOTE] It's obviously strategic to court Bernie supporters since Obama is going to inevitably be campaigning for Hillary in a few months. If he really thought it was praiseworthy he would have said something about Bernie outraising Hillary several months in a row a while back when it mattered. Not when it just happens to be that Hillary is the clear winner.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;50229234]There's a big difference between being an ally and being part of.[/QUOTE] he's literally never not been a democrat though, its that he undercut clinton's coronation by putting a voice to the progressives that the DNC have been keeping locked in the closet. the party bosses want another clinton, they want another centralist democrat who they think can bring the republicans to the table, this isn't a bad thought but it would be going backwards in the eyes of many americans who feel that the economic policies of the 90s have screwed us over today, and feel that extreme action is required to fix the failing system, actions that a clinton administration would not be willing to do
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