• ‘The day we fight back’: 6,000 websites protest surveillance, honor Aaron Swartz
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[url]http://rt.com/news/activists-internet-protests-fight-440/[/url] [QUOTE]More than 6,000 websites, including Reddit, Tumblr, Mozilla, are taking part in an online protest against government surveillance. The action marks two years since website blackouts against SOPA and PIPA and commemorates Aaron Swartz’s death. The February 11 online protest, going by the title ‘The Day We Fight Back’, is supposed to see around 6, 200 websites each host a large banner at the top reading “Dear internet, we’re sick of complaining about the NSA. We want new laws that curtail online surveillance.” The banner enables US internet users to contact members of Congress directly via email or a computer telephone call link using Twilio Voice. They would then be able to ask legislators to oppose the FISA Improvements Act, which would strengthen the NSA surveillance legality and to support the USA Freedom Act, that would, conversely, curb the domestic surveillance power of intelligence agencies. As for website visitors from outside US, they are urged to sign a petition in support of the principles against mass surveillance. The petition has already been signed by more than 26,000 people. [/QUOTE]
Holy shit I remember SOPA and PIPA when that was a big thing on FP. I had absolutely no idea what was to come regarding the NSA alright Now I've just gotta hope this gets somewhere; it's been long enough that the NSA has been so unrestricted
..they'll just keep doing it anyway.
[QUOTE=ZakkShock;43870598]..they'll just keep doing it anyway.[/QUOTE] It stopped SOPA, maybe it'll stop this.
[QUOTE=ZakkShock;43870598]..they'll just keep doing it anyway.[/QUOTE] Okay Negative Nancy, thanks for your feedback.
[QUOTE=Jrose14;43870937]It stopped SOPA, maybe it'll stop this.[/QUOTE] it won't
Fools! The class conflict will continue until we raise up in glorious, bloodied revolution.
[QUOTE=Medevila;43871036]Hate to say it but it can't be all that impressive a fight if I wouldn't have heard about it had someone not shared it[/QUOTE] Well, you've heard about it now.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBM2IvvnFLI[/media]
[QUOTE=Medevila;43871124]I've said this before and it's always been extremely unpopular, but the age of the "wild west" internet is coming to an end. It was only a matter of time before governments exerted control, esp. when government played such an integral role in its formation. [editline]11th February 2014[/editline] either an alternative will arise or complacency will set in[/QUOTE] It never was really "wild west" though, the legislation was always relatively restrictive because all irl laws still apply online (even if some politician (*cough* Merkel *cough*) don't seem to grok that). The stuff that's going on currently is also far more than "excerting control", it's plain surveillance (and technically illegal in foreign legislations, the NSA is still violating the law in Germany even if it's legal in the US, and vice versa). They aren't enforcing rules, they are breaking ones that have been in place for ages.
[quote]“Dear internet, we’re sick of complaining about the NSA. We want new laws that curtail online surveillance.” [/quote] “Dear internet, we’re sick of complaining about the NSA, so we're complaining more.” Website banners and online petitions are the most useless ways possible to effect change.
[QUOTE=Medevila;43871124][...] either an alternative will arise or complacency will set in[/QUOTE] You can relatively easily secure the existing infrastructure, it's not even that expensive at all. ("Strong cryptography works.") The problem is in part with executive meddling undermining sane standards, even resulting in far more costly alternatives, because they have no clue about the subject and just throw their existing licenses around. It happens all the time, one of the last instances in OAuth 2.0 [URL="http://hueniverse.com/2012/07/oauth-2-0-and-the-road-to-hell/"]which is basically impossible to get right without hiring a whole security team because the specification is so shitty that insecure implementations can still work and the data isn't constrained to just one format that is easy to implement[/URL]. [editline]11th February 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=catbarf;43871381]“Dear internet, we’re sick of complaining about the NSA, so we're complaining more.” Website banners and online petitions are the most useless ways possible to effect change.[/QUOTE] Sadly it might be the most effective one in this case too, unless they pool funds and just buy the politicians.
[QUOTE=Medevila;43871036]Hate to say it but it can't be all that impressive a fight if I wouldn't have heard about it had someone not shared it[/QUOTE] Have you not heard of word-of-mouth before?
[QUOTE=Medevila;43871124]I've said this before and it's always been extremely unpopular, but the age of the "wild west" internet is coming to an end. It was only a matter of time before governments exerted control, esp. when government played such an integral role in its formation. [editline]11th February 2014[/editline] either an alternative will arise or complacency will set in[/QUOTE] Honestly, mindsets like these are what's gonna let them get away with this. Being cynical about it will get nothing done. Even then not everyone's gonna stand for it. There's gonna be fallout either way.
They make Swartz's death sound like some kind of Bolivian army showdown.
[QUOTE=O Cheerios O;43870955]Okay Negative Nancy, thanks for your feedback.[/QUOTE] If you honestly believe that this will stop something then you're pretty naive, they'll just stop the NSA from doing it and move it to a new, more secretive agency.
[QUOTE=bravehat;43871707]If you honestly believe that this will stop something then you're pretty naive, they'll just stop the NSA from doing it and move it to a new, [B]more secretive agency[/B].[/QUOTE] [I]Universal[/i] Security Agency. Oh fuck I uncovered the truth! Goodbye you guys, you were like a family to me
[QUOTE=catbarf;43871381]“Dear internet, we’re sick of complaining about the NSA, so we're complaining more.” Website banners and online petitions are the most useless ways possible to effect change.[/QUOTE] What do you think people should be doing instead?
[t]http://puu.sh/6ShCJ.png[/t] I saw this on facebook and it made me lol
[QUOTE=Rubs10;43871745]What do you think people should be doing instead?[/QUOTE] start a war
[QUOTE=Jrose14;43870937]It stopped SOPA, maybe it'll stop this.[/QUOTE] There is a massive difference between a single bill and the acts of a major government agency. Pestering your site's users isn't going to change much on the latter.
[QUOTE=Medevila;43871124]I've said this before and it's always been extremely unpopular, but the age of the "wild west" internet is coming to an end. It was only a matter of time before governments exerted control, esp. when government played such an integral role in its formation. [editline]11th February 2014[/editline] either an alternative will arise or complacency will set in[/QUOTE] You've been playing too much Red Dead Redemption
[QUOTE=ZakkShock;43870598]..they'll just keep doing it anyway.[/QUOTE] Yes but if we win and catch them at it, they get their shit slammed for it. [QUOTE=Medevila;43871124]I've said this before and it's always been extremely unpopular, but the age of the "wild west" internet is coming to an end. It was only a matter of time before governments exerted control, esp. when government played such an integral role in its formation. [editline]11th February 2014[/editline] either an alternative will arise or complacency will set in[/QUOTE] It's not so much "we want this to be a permanent frontier" as a combination of "you guys are going all tyrannical dictator, knock it off" and "we don't want a bunch of clueless old farts enacting laws on things they don't understand"
[QUOTE=catbarf;43871381]“Dear internet, we’re sick of complaining about the NSA, so we're complaining more.” Website banners and online petitions are the most useless ways possible to effect change.[/QUOTE] In this case, if you read just beyond that sentence in the OP, you would see that this isnt simply a banner [quote] The banner enables US internet users to contact members of Congress directly via email or a computer telephone call link using Twilio Voice.[/quote]
internet activism won't achieve anything if we don't have some epic memes to go with it
Gee, a whole day? I bet Eric Holder is quaking in his boots!
[QUOTE=Jrose14;43870937]It stopped SOPA, maybe it'll stop this.[/QUOTE] Except politicians are still trying to push rebranded SOPAs on us.
A lot of you are discounting that this is a large scale effort to contact politicians via phone. If enough people take part in this, it won't just be another "internet-petition".
With SOPA we had giants like Google and Wikipedia supporting us. Do we have the same strength now I wonder?
Regardless of the effectiveness of this campaign, that is a damn fine logo they've got: [IMG]https://thedaywefightback.org/imgs/TDWFBAvatar.jpg[/IMG] Reminds me of the Combine logo, just a little bit.
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