• Cancer Vaccine developed in Israel
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[quote] : [B]Vaxil’s groundbreaking therapeutic vaccine, developed in Israel, could keep about 90 percent of cancers from coming back.[/B] As the world’s population lives longer than ever, if we don’t succumb to heart disease, strokes or accidents, it is more likely that cancer will get us one way or another. Cancer is tough to fight, as the body learns how to outsmart medical approaches that often kill normal cells while targeting the malignant ones. In a breakthrough development, the Israeli company Vaxil BioTherapeutics has formulated a therapeutic cancer vaccine, now in clinical trials at Hadassah University Medical Center in Jerusalem. If all goes well, the vaccine could be available about six years down the road, to administer on a regular basis not only to help treat cancer but in order to keep the disease from recurring. The vaccine is being tested against a type of blood cancer called multiple myeloma. If the substance works as hoped — and it looks like all arrows are pointing that way — its platform technology VaxHit could be applied to 90 percent of all known cancers, including prostate and breast cancer, solid and non-solid tumors. “In cancer, the body knows something is not quite right but the immune system doesn’t know how to protect itself against the tumor like it does against an infection or virus. This is because cancer cells are the body’s own cells gone wrong,” says Julian Levy, the company’s CFO. “Coupled with that, a cancer patient has a depressed immune system, caused both by the illness and by the treatment.” The trick is to activate a compromised immune system to mobilize against the threat. [B]A vaccine that works like a drug[/B] A traditional vaccine helps the body’s immune system fend off foreign invaders such as bacteria or viruses, and is administered to people who have not yet had the ailment. Therapeutic vaccines, like the one Vaxil has developed, are given to sick people, and work more like a drug. Vaxil’s lead product, ImMucin, activates the immune system by “training” T-cells –– the immune cells that protect the body by searching out and destroying cells that display a specific molecule (or marker) called MUC1. MUC1 is typically found only on cancer cells and not on healthy cells. The T-cells don’t attack any cells without MUC1, meaning there are no side effects unlike traditional cancer treatments. More than 90% of different cancers have MUC1 on their cells, which indicates the potential for this vaccine. “It’s a really big thing,” says Levy, a biotechnology entrepreneur who was formerly CEO for Biokine Therapeutics. “If you give chemo, apart from the really nasty side effects, what often happens is that cancer becomes immune [to it]. The tumor likes to mutate and develops an ability to hide from the treatment. Our vaccines are also designed to overcome that problem.” For cancers in an advanced stage, treatments like chemo or surgery to remove a large tumor will still be needed, but if the cancer can be brought down to scale, the body is then able to deal with it, Levy explains. ImMucin is foreseen as a long-term strategy — a shot every few months, with no side effects — to stop the cancer from reoccurring after initial treatments, by ensuring that the patient’s own immune system keeps it under control. In parallel, the company is also working on a vaccine that treats tuberculosis, a disease that’s increasing worldwide, including in the developed world, and for which the current vaccine is often ineffective and treatment is problematic. Based in Ness Ziona, Vaxil was founded in 2006 by Dr. Lior Carmon, a biotechnology entrepreneur with a doctorate in immunology from the Weizmann Institute of Science in Rehovot. In June, Vaxil signed a memorandum of understanding to merge its activities into Sheldonco, a company traded on the Tel Aviv Stock Exchange. By Rivka Borochov [/quote] [URL="http://unitedwithisrael.org/israel-develops-cancer-vaccine/"]http://unitedwithisrael.org/israel-develops-cancer-vaccine/ [/URL]Pretty cool, hopefully this doesn't go the way of other promising cancer treatments
If it works it will likely not go away, that's how it always is. The things you hear about that "disappear" likely disappeared due to not actually working, not due to a corrupt big pharma. Think about it, wouldn't corporations do anything for the chance to harbor and sell the first or only cure for cancer?
Googled "Israel cancer vaccine" and the only thing I got was blogs and sites with Israel in the URL I don't think this cancer vaccine israel
Sounds pretty awesome, hope it works out well.
Now I have mixed feelings about israel...
Isn't cancer a umbrella term for harmful cell mutations, thus the variety makes it impossible to make a [I]"one size fits all"[/I] vaccine? [QUOTE=barttool;33278913]Now I have mixed feelings about israel...[/QUOTE] Their current government is still consisting largely by a bunch of douchenozzles
[QUOTE=Van-man;33278916]Isn't cancer a umbrella term for harmful cell mutations, thus the variety makes it impossible to make a [I]"one size fits all"[/I] vaccine?[/QUOTE] I'm pretty sure it only applies to cells growing and dividing rapidly. EDIT: [url=http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0002267/]Oh, and also when "they forget to die"[/url]
You will never hear about this in a month.
One problem, that's impossible. A vaccine is made specifically for viruses and, correct me if I'm wrong, some bacteria. Cancer is neither, not even fungal. It's a genetic mutation, a cell gone AWOL that thought it would be a good idea to the divide A LOT and fast. Pretty much, vaccine for cancer can't happen, end of story.
Sounds legit.
[QUOTE=zombays;33279101]One problem, that's impossible. A vaccine is made specifically for viruses and, correct me if I'm wrong, some bacteria. Cancer is neither, not even fungal. It's a genetic mutation, a cell gone AWOL that thought it would be a good idea to the divide A LOT and fast. Pretty much, vaccine for cancer can't happen, end of story.[/QUOTE] I think they are just throwing around the word vaccine because the general public won't really get what this really is.
[QUOTE=barttool;33278913]Now I have mixed feelings about israel...[/QUOTE] Israeli scientists aren't the government y'know.
Cannabis Oil. That's all im gonna say.
[QUOTE=gRuKz;33279171]Cannabis Oil. That's all im gonna say.[/QUOTE] What about cannabis oil you think it cures cancer or some shit?
[QUOTE=gRuKz;33279171]Cannabis Oil. That's all im gonna say.[/QUOTE] Fuck finding a cure for one of the most horrible conditions there is, let's blaze until there's no tommorow. :downs:
Hmm actually [url]http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/7098340.stm[/url] who knows, more research required I guess
[QUOTE=Turnips5;33278904]Googled "Israel cancer vaccine" and the only thing I got was blogs and sites with Israel in the URL I don't think this cancer vaccine israel[/QUOTE] Found this at least [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhEwj6Ue13s[/media]
Can it cure Israel from being a cancer?
[QUOTE=Florence;33279155]Israeli scientists aren't the government y'know.[/QUOTE] In fact I dislike jewish people. I have very personal reasons to do so.
the only thing I can find is this thing on pubmed [url]http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21570434[/url] ehhh... I'm still not convinced. We should have heard something about it on other outlets. Also, I can't find this company on wikipedia. I'd be happy to be wrong about this, but I still think it's highly questionable.
[QUOTE=Turnips5;33279363]the only thing I can find is this thing on pubmed [url]http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21570434[/url] ehhh... I'm still not convinced. We should have heard something about it on other outlets. Also, I can't find this company on wikipedia. I'd be happy to be wrong about this, but I still think it's highly questionable.[/QUOTE] It's likely that it hasn't been published because it's a private firm working for a profit [quote]the immune cells that protect the body by searching out and destroying cells that display a specific molecule (or marker) called MUC1. MUC1 is typically found only on cancer cells and not on healthy cells. The T-cells don’t attack any cells without MUC1, meaning there are no side effects unlike traditional cancer treatments. More than 90% of different cancers have MUC1 on their cells, which indicates the potential for this vaccine.[/quote] This presents sense and works out, prima facie. There is lots of stuff on MUC1| [url]http://scholar.google.com.au/scholar?q=muc1&hl=en&btnG=Search&lr=lang_en&as_sdt=1%2C5&as_sdtp=on[/url] however it is apparent that regular cells still have MUC1, it's just that it's heavily overexpressed in cancer cells If the T-cells continue to attack MUC1 expressing cells, it could be problematic in the long term. However, it doesn't seem as likely considering extra shots are needed I wonder if it could be used a preventative measure, as well
[QUOTE=Van-man;33279207]Fuck finding a cure for one of the most horrible conditions there is, let's blaze until there's no tommorow. :downs:[/QUOTE] There's actually some research to see if marijuana is a possible cure for cancer. So...uhh...get blazed and gain immunity? GOOD ENOUGH! :v:
however I'm not an immunologist or oncologist so take it with a grain of salt I wish I never needed sleep and university was free, so I could learn everything known [editline]15th November 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=zombays;33279690]There's actually some research to see if marijuana is a possible cure for cancer. So...uhh...get blazed and gain immunity? GOOD ENOUGH! :v:[/QUOTE] It decreases the rate at which some cancers (lung for example) develop, and prevents some it increases the rate at which others develop (breast cancer)
[QUOTE=Contag;33279702]however I'm not an immunologist or oncologist so take it with a grain of salt I wish I never needed sleep and university was free, so I could learn everything known It decreases the rate at which some cancers (lung for example) develop, and prevents some it increases the rate at which others develop (breast cancer)[/QUOTE] [url]http://www.cbc.ca/news/health/story/2007/11/19/cannabis-cancer.html[/url] Cannabis Oil has been proven to reduce cancer risks and spread. I'm not talking about getting high. I'm talking about science.
[QUOTE=Contag;33279667]It's likely that it hasn't been published because it's a private firm working for a profit This presents sense and works out, prima facie. There is lots of stuff on MUC1| [url]http://scholar.google.com.au/scholar?q=muc1&hl=en&btnG=Search&lr=lang_en&as_sdt=1%2C5&as_sdtp=on[/url] however it is apparent that regular cells still have MUC1, it's just that it's heavily overexpressed in cancer cells If the T-cells continue to attack MUC1 expressing cells, it could be problematic in the long term. However, it doesn't seem as likely considering extra shots are needed I wonder if it could be used a preventative measure, as well[/QUOTE] there's nothing quite like reading the sentence "Phosphorylation of this site has been demonstrated by LYN through mediation of interleukin 7, Src through mediation of EGFR, and PRKCD" to remind you that you're not a geneticist [editline]15th November 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=zombays;33279690]There's actually some research to see if marijuana is a possible cure for cancer. So...uhh...get blazed and gain immunity? GOOD ENOUGH! :v:[/QUOTE] not nearly enough active compound gained by smoking, you'd need to purify and inject it somewhere to have a chance of it actually doing something
[QUOTE=zombays;33279101]One problem, that's impossible. A vaccine is made specifically for viruses and, correct me if I'm wrong, some bacteria. Cancer is neither, not even fungal. It's a genetic mutation, a cell gone AWOL that thought it would be a good idea to the divide A LOT and fast. Pretty much, vaccine for cancer can't happen, end of story.[/QUOTE]You are wrong. [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cancer_vaccine[/url] [quote=Wikipedia]The term cancer vaccine refers to a vaccine that either prevents infections with cancer-causing viruses, treats existing cancer or prevents the development of cancer in certain high risk individuals. (The ones that treat existing cancer are known as therapeutic cancer vaccines.)[/quote] Why respond to the topic title and not the actual piece that was posted
maybe you guys should spread this around a little
[QUOTE=Turnips5;33279749]there's nothing quite like reading the sentence "Phosphorylation of this site has been demonstrated by LYN through mediation of interleukin 7, Src through mediation of EGFR, and PRKCD" to remind you that you're not a geneticist [editline]15th November 2011[/editline] not nearly enough active compound gained by smoking, you'd need to purify and inject it somewhere to have a chance of it actually doing something[/QUOTE] Hence why I mentionned pure cannabis oil. It can cure skin cancer if you put it on your cancer.
[QUOTE=gRuKz;33279818]Hence why I mentionned pure cannabis oil. It can cure skin cancer if you put it on your cancer.[/QUOTE] If that were the case, nobody would be dying from skin cancer, regardless of the legality of cannabis usage
[QUOTE=barttool;33279295]In fact I dislike jewish people. I have very personal reasons to do so.[/QUOTE] Just like some people could have very personal reasons to hate black people or Muslims?
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