Advocates file suit against NY Board of Elections for voter suppression
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[QUOTE]NEW YORK, NY - Election Justice USA, a national voting rights organization, filed an emergency action lawsuit in New York Federal District Court on Monday afternoon. The suit alleged voter suppression against the New York Board of Elections.
Shyla Nelson, spokesperson for the organization confirmed that the suit was filed late Monday afternoon.
The emergency action taken by Election Justice USA, called for the immediate restoration of voting rights for thousands of eligible New Yorkers who upon verifying their voter registration, discovered that the state's voter registration system had rendered them ineligible to vote.
New York residents who said they were previously listed as Democrats discovered they were listed as unaffiliated with any party, not registered, or listed as Republicans on the state system. The registration errors rendered the voters unable to participate in the Presidential primary on Tuesday.
In an interview late Monday afternoon, Nelson was confident that the advocacy group and New York voters would prevail in federal court on Tuesday morning, opening the primary up to the more than [B]63,000 known voters and more, rendered ineligible to vote in Tuesday's presidential primary by no action of their own.[/B]
"We have been overwhelmed by the reports (they’re still coming in) and wanted to do whatever we can to include as many as possible in the lawsuit, so processed them up to the last minute before filing," Nelson said. "2000 pages were submitted today."[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.examiner.com/article/advocates-file-suit-against-ny-board-of-elections-allege-voter-suppression[/url]
Good, we need more people stepping up and saying whats wrong.
Hope this movement continues and amounts to something. We need people to stand up and fight voter suppression and Gerrymandering.
Go get 'em! Time to teach these election-rigging party elites a lesson.
On a side note, watch CNN and the rest of the mainstream media not mention any of this on the air.
[QUOTE=Biotoxsin;50161125]Hope this movement continues and amounts to something. We need people to stand up and fight voter suppression and Gerrymandering.[/QUOTE]
Gerrymandering is the very specific moving of voting boundaries to change the voting population/demographic for specific candidates - I haven't heard this as being an issue for NY State.
Jordan Chariton is doing play-by-play reporting of this on his Twitter.
[media]https://twitter.com/JordanChariton/status/722452495734321152[/media]
Currently we're waiting until 2pm for an update. Those affected can vote with an affidavit and indepedents can vote (but they cannot check the box saying they are registered to a party on the affidavit). The lawsuit will determine which votes are counted.
This is the reason why you don't have closed primaries with registration closing 5 months before the primary.
[QUOTE=jalb;50161157]Jordan Chariton is doing play-by-play reporting of this on his Twitter.
[media]https://twitter.com/JordanChariton/status/722452495734321152[/media]
Currently we're waiting until 2pm for an update. Those affected can vote with an affidavit and indepedents can vote (but they cannot check the box saying they are registered to a party on the affidavit). The lawsuit will determine which votes are counted.[/QUOTE]
I think this is limited to provisional ballots from people who were actually registered and eligible (but got lost), so you can't just go vote without being registered at all and have it count anyway.
[QUOTE=Sableye;50161193]This is the reason why you don't have closed primaries with registration closing 5 months before the primary.[/QUOTE]
The deadline to change parties was in November, the deadline to register was a month ago.
[QUOTE=mcharest;50161144]Go get 'em! Time to teach these election-rigging party elites a lesson.
On a side note, watch CNN and the rest of the mainstream media not mention any of this on the air.[/QUOTE]
I think this is more about plain incompetence than vote rigging. Everything doesn't need to be a conspiracy by the 'elite', that's just childish.
I have a feeling this isn't just "incompetence".
If it is, whoever is responsible should definitely be fired because what a colossal fuck up.
[QUOTE=Pascall;50161396]I have a feeling this isn't just "incompetence".
If it is, whoever is responsible should definitely be fired because what a colossal fuck up.[/QUOTE]
Because those 63,000 registered voters were all Bernie supporters, right?
It literally is just incompetence. People should be fired.
I literally never said anything about them being Bernie supporters lmfao settle down
[QUOTE=Pascall;50161447]I literally never said anything about them being Bernie supporters lmfao settle down[/QUOTE]
What did you mean by
[quote]this isn't just "incompetence".[/quote]
?
Regardless of who the target is, it's still possible that it is a purposeful form of voter suppression. Could be from one side, could be just in general.
But the possibility of it being purposeful can't be out-ruled just because there were victims of both sides. Doesn't mean that it wasn't a premeditated attempt at keeping people from voting.
Regardless, incompetence or purposeful, it's fucked up and someone needs to answer for it.
Even if it disenfranchised 40% of voters that would go to Hillary, the fact it'd affect the 60% that would go to Bernie makes it effective.
[QUOTE=Snowmew;50161344]
The deadline to change parties was in November, the deadline to register was a month ago.[/QUOTE]
OK that still doesn't make much sense, the deadline to change parties should be the same as the registration
Registration should be automatic for every citizen. You should simply be able to show up to the polling place with your social security number, ID, etc, declare which party you want to vote for, and cast your vote. Huge amounts of voters get turned away at the polls for not realizing that they missed registration deadlines, didn't declare parties, or failed to update their registration forms to reflect various things. I was turned away in Missouri because I recently moved and didn't realize that I had to update my registration with my new addres, and couldn't at the polls. I was there for fifteen minutes trying to get it sorted on the phone with the Missouri election board, to no avail, and saw no less than a dozen other people being turned away for similar infractions.
Missouri's final split between Sanders and Clinton was a fraction of a percent. Every one of those votes could have actually had an impact.
I don't think there's any deliberate suppression going on here, but our voting system is horribly mismanaged. We need serious overhauls to make voting easier and more accessible.
[QUOTE=Snowmew;50161344]I think this is limited to provisional ballots from people who were actually registered and eligible (but got lost), so you can't just go vote without being registered at all and have it count anyway.[/QUOTE]
It depends on which way the court swings. There are some concerns with voter registration closing all the way back in October and there being insufficient notice of that being the case, or it being incorrectly documented on state websites (according to personal accounts). Would-be democrats were also affected by this. I admit it's a stretch.
[QUOTE=Reshy;50161520]Even if it disenfranchised 40% of voters that would go to Hillary, the fact it'd affect the 60% that would go to Bernie makes it effective.[/QUOTE]
What makes you think those are the numbers.
It's a hypothetical.
[QUOTE=Pascall;50161618]It's a hypothetical.[/QUOTE]
It's him trying to paint it as a conspiracy against Sanders when nothing supports that.
Not everything has to be attempt at spreading conspiracy theories, man.
Hmm, let's see... This is happening in Clinton's home state, the article only mentions democrat voters were effected, and all of this happening during a high stakes election.
How many of you are willing to bet money that these voter registration "accidents" are mostly effecting people who voted for Bernie during the primary's?
[QUOTE=Pascall;50161666]Not everything has to be attempt at spreading conspiracy theories, man.[/QUOTE]
The post I quoted and the one below you beg to differ.
Voter registration issues in closed primary states [B]do[/B] affect Sanders disproportionately, though. A big chunk of his supporters are registered Independent, or have no affiliation at all.
I think calling it a conspiracy is a bit much, but it quite obviously affects one candidate more.
[QUOTE=rilez;50161938]Voter registration issues in closed primary states [B]do[/B] affect Sanders disproportionately, though. A big chunk of his supporters are registered Independent, or have no affiliation at all.
I think calling it a conspiracy is a bit much, but it quite obviously affects one candidate more.[/QUOTE]
It's the system working as intended. The intention is to keep party outsiders from mucking up the nomination.
It's a shitty system, it's totally undemocratic, and definitively disenfranchises voters, but there's no conspiracy about it. It's broken by design.
[QUOTE=rilez;50161938]Voter registration issues in closed primary states [B]do[/B] affect Sanders disproportionately, though. A big chunk of his supporters are registered Independent, or have no affiliation at all.
I think calling it a conspiracy is a bit much, but it quite obviously affects one candidate more.[/QUOTE]
The difference being that while it might effect Sanders base more. The DNC doesn't run closed primaries to specifically target Sanders.
The Board of Elections has punted to the individual counties, all 60+ of them. In the mean time affected voters should vote on a provisional ballot or get a court order.
[QUOTE=jalb;50162034]The Board of Elections has punted to the individual counties, all 60+ of them. In the mean time affected voters should vote on a provisional ballot or get a court order.[/QUOTE]
If investigations turned out to that Hilary was linked to each and every voter fraud, It's over for her and DNC and say hello to the Trump Vs Sanders debates.
Or worse Trump as President.
[QUOTE=OmniConsUme;50162081]If investigations turned out to that Hilary was linked to each and every voter fraud, It's over for her and DNC and say hello to the Trump Vs Sanders debates.
Or worse Trump as President.[/QUOTE]
Trump would never beat Sanders. He might, just might, beat Clinton, though. And I'm not making this up - most polls confirm that of the two Democratic candidates, Sanders is the more electable of the two. But for those who doubt the numbers, I'd encourage you to check out [url=http://static.currentaffairs.org/2016/02/unless-the-democrats-nominate-sanders-a-trump-nomination-means-a-trump-presidency]this article[/url]. It runs step-by-step through a Trump-Clinton matchup and the result could end up being a perfect storm.
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