Buffalo NY Blurs Line Between EMS and Police: Cops To Carry Naloxone
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[quote]BUFFALO, N.Y. — Buffalo police officers — who can be first on the scene when responding to a report of a heroin overdose — will soon carry a powerful prescription drug to reverse the effects of an overdose.
The Buffalo Police Department will become the first department locally to train officers on how to administer Narcan. The drug, which police will dispense through a nasal spray, has been successful in treating overdoses of heroin and other opiates, including OxyContin and Vicodin.
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Mayor Byron W. Brown said he approached Derenda six months ago and asked him to look into equipping city police officers with Narcan, generically known as naloxone.
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So far, 48 officers have been trained, Derenda said. He expects officers will soon carry the antidote.
The Police Benevolent Association, the union that represents police officers, was not aware of the Narcan initiative, said Treasurer Frank Guevara.
Officers receive other first-responder medical training, including CPR.
Before officers can carry Narcan, they must complete training, and then an administrator in the Erie County Department of Health will write each officer a prescription to carry the drug.[/quote]
[url]http://www.policeone.com/police-products/tactical/tactical-medical/articles/6899450-NY-cops-to-carry-Narcan-to-fight-heroin-ODs[/url]
I dont think officers should be using intravenous drugs. Too much room for error. Leave it to the EMT+'s
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I dont think officers should be using intravenous drugs. Too much room for error. Leave it to the EMT+'s[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]The drug, which police will dispense through a nasal spray, [/QUOTE]
Good thing they aren't.
Naloxone is administered nasally, this'll save a lot of lives
It says that the drug is dispensed through a nasal spray.
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I dont think officers should be using intravenous drugs. Too much room for error. Leave it to the EMT+'s[/QUOTE]
They wouldn't be giving it unless the person was going to die before the EMTs get there. I see no problem with this, it'l probably save lives in cases where the police just watch the person die and the EMTs just call time of death when they arrive.
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I dont think officers should be using intravenous drugs. Too much room for error. Leave it to the EMT+'s[/QUOTE]
Apparently you didnt manage to read your own article...
Its a nasal spray. Its probably still a fairly powerful thing for them to be carrying around, but clearly the people starting this think its something they need.
Proud to be a Buffalo boy :D
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[QUOTE=Rhenae;44032911]Apparently you didnt manage to read your own article...
Its a nasal spray. Its probably still a fairly powerful thing for them to be carrying around, but clearly the people starting this think its something they need.[/QUOTE]
You say its powerful like its a bad thing.
As I understand, all it does is reverse the effects of opiate overdose and return the person to consciousness.
Buffalo is such a depressing city but this is good
[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;44032974]You say its powerful like its a bad thing.
As I understand, all it does is reverse the effects of opiate overdose and return the person to consciousness.[/QUOTE]
It doesn't diminish its potential to be abused even if it creates a positive drug interaction with opiates. There are many drugs that combat drug overdoses but are potentially dangerous themselves.
[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;44032974]You say its powerful like its a bad thing.
As I understand, all it does is reverse the effects of opiate overdose and return the person to consciousness.[/QUOTE]
I simply mean that if it can reverse opiate overdose I assume it would have an strong effect. Its not necessarily a bad thing just a responsibility for them to be carrying that sort of thing (as much as anything else they have)
I think its overall a positive thing, there simply seems like theres a margin for that sort of drug to also have a pretty big negative effect if used incorrectly. But that is of course why they are being trained.
This isn't a new thing. Several towns around Chicago already have integrated emergency services.
Wouldn't have thought Buffalo of all places would have a whole lot of Heroin overdoses v:v:v
[QUOTE=InvaderNouga;44033045]It doesn't diminish its potential to be abused even if it creates a positive drug interaction with opiates. There are many drugs that combat drug overdoses but are potentially dangerous themselves.[/QUOTE]
What do you mean abused? It doesn't get you high, as I understand, it basically blocks the receptors that opiates bind to in the brain, which causes you to "sober up" almost instantly, and starts withdrawal symptoms immediately.
i am not a neurosurgeon
but yeah basically the naloxone has a high affinity to bind with the heroin receptors, without actually doing anything
since the naloxone is bound instead of heroin, you aren't overdosing
Naloxone should be much more readily available than it is. I remember reading how a bunch of needle exchanges in the UK have been handing it out to people (after giving them ~15 mins of training on how to use it), supposedly it is responsible for saving a number of lives.
[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;44033331]What do you mean abused? It doesn't get you high, as I understand, it basically blocks the receptors that opiates bind to in the brain, which causes you to "sober up" almost instantly, and starts withdrawal symptoms immediately.[/QUOTE]That sounds like something out of SS13, and because of that my mind automatically tried to come up with a way to abuse it on somebody else.
Like, inject somebody with heroin, wait, give them Naloxone, honk horn, run from police.
[QUOTE=InvaderNouga;44033045]It doesn't diminish its potential to be abused even if it creates a positive drug interaction with opiates. There are many drugs that combat drug overdoses but are potentially dangerous themselves.[/QUOTE]
The only positive aspect is that it saves your life and instantly stops an overdose
It's excruciatingly painful, and stops an opiate high immediately
This is such a simple measure and it will save hundreds if not thousands of lives eventually. Naloxone shouldn't even be scheduled, it should be over the counter.
[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;44032970]Proud to be a Buffalo boy :D
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Score one for the city of good neighbors.
[QUOTE=Lick;44033673]The only positive aspect is that it saves your life and instantly stops an overdose
It's excruciatingly painful, and stops an opiate high immediately
This is such a simple measure and it will save hundreds if not thousands of lives eventually. Naloxone shouldn't even be scheduled, it should be over the counter.[/QUOTE]
Isn't it painful because it causes an immediate return to withdrawal symptoms?
I'm sure the officer's are going to be more educated than we are about Naloxone and how to use it. I mean they are training them. It's not like they're just going to hand them and tell them stick in some hole.
Where the fuck did Buffalo get money for this?
I grew up in the Buffalo area, and I remember the city being really shitty, kind of poor, and having a bad football team. Oh, and we drank. A lot.
[QUOTE=LTJGPliskin;44036150]Where the fuck did Buffalo get money for this?
I grew up in the Buffalo area, and I remember the city being really shitty, kind of poor, and having a bad football team. Oh, and we drank. A lot.[/QUOTE]
Which part did you grow up in?
[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;44036230]Which part did you grow up in?[/QUOTE]
Multiple parts. Lived in rat-infested Cheekowaga for the first 7 years of my life, then I moved to North Tonawanda.
Then I got the fuck outta dodge and moved out of Western New York.
I miss the food, though.
[QUOTE=LTJGPliskin;44036288]Multiple parts. Lived in rat-infested Cheekowaga for the first 7 years of my life, then I moved to North Tonawanda.
Then I got the fuck outta dodge and moved out of Western New York.
I miss the food, though.[/QUOTE]
Yeah those are the pretty shitty parts, grew up in Hamburg, and occasionally lived with relatives in Blasdell and Lackawanna. I personally miss West NY, but I will not move back into NY at all till Long Island is made it's own state, and those fucking toll booths are destroyed.
And yeah, I miss my Anchor Bar, Blasdell Pizza, and some of the Buffalo Harbor Pier Huts.
[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;44036306]Yeah those are the pretty shitty parts, grew up in Hamburg, and occasionally lived with relatives in Blasdell and Lackawanna. I personally miss West NY, but I will not move back into NY at all till Long Island is made it's own state, and those fucking toll booths are destroyed.
And yeah, I miss my Anchor Bar, Blasdell Pizza, and some of the Buffalo Harbor Pier Huts.[/QUOTE]
I'm in Hamburg as of this moment
[QUOTE=J!NX;44036321]I'm in Hamburg as of this moment[/QUOTE]
Lake Heights, man. Lived there for six years.
[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;44036306]And yeah, I miss my Anchor Bar, Blasdell Pizza, and some of the Buffalo Harbor Pier Huts.[/QUOTE]
I miss Mighty Taco.
Oh god. So good.
[QUOTE=LTJGPliskin;44036356]I miss Mighty Taco.
Oh god. So good.[/QUOTE]
Texas Hotdogs... :c
I lived walks away from blockbuster
and then they eventually went bankrupt THANKS A LOT INTERNET!!!
I still live very close to there but I wont give any hints because I don't want anyone to murder rape me or something, still in hamburg
[editline]24th February 2014[/editline]
please don't murder rape me anyone
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