• Iran 'designing nuclear submarine'
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[quote] Iran has begun to design its first nuclear submarine, a semi-official news agency in the country has reported. Deputy navy chief in charge of technical affairs Admiral Abbas Zamini was quoted as saying Iran has begun “initial stages” of designing the nuclear-powered craft. Admiral Zamini said Iran has developed “peaceful nuclear technology” and has both the capability and the right to build a submarine. Iran and the West are at odds over Tehran’s nuclear programme. The US suspects it is aimed at developing weapons technology - a charge that Iran denies. Iran has built several small submarines. It recently overhauled one of the three non-nuclear Russian Kilo-class submarines it bought in 1990s.[/quote] [url]http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2012/0612/breaking11.html[/url]
Nuke Subs are outdated, with systems of modern radar and detection, they've become more of a wartime novelty. However, 30 some years ago, they were still a major threat, due to the unstable might of the Soviet Union. Fortunately, the USSR is gone, and Iran is nowhere near as severe a threat to the world as that.
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;36302738]Nuke Subs are outdated, with systems of modern radar and detection, they've become more of a wartime novelty. However, 30 some years ago, they were still a major threat, due to the unstable might of the Soviet Union. Fortunately, the USSR is gone, and Iran is nowhere near as severe a threat to the world as that.[/QUOTE] You have no fucking idea how wrong you are. I'm shipping out to my first sub next month, they are by no means outdated. [editline]12th June 2012[/editline] [img]http://www.csp.navy.mil/archived_news/May09/images/img_090513-N-8750E-083.jpg[/img] There it is, the USS Hawaii, and its going to be fucking awesome once I get my qualifications done.
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;36302738]Nuke Subs are outdated, with systems of modern radar and detection, they've become more of a wartime novelty. However, 30 some years ago, they were still a major threat, due to the unstable might of the Soviet Union. Fortunately, the USSR is gone, and Iran is nowhere near as severe a threat to the world as that.[/QUOTE] The hell are you talking about? A nuke sub can stay underwater for months, hell it could be for years is it wasn't for a human crew. Americas subs are some of the most technologically advanced vessels out at sea, and because they have no loud engines to be clacking about they can go virtually undetected. Something tells me if they even do build one that it is going to end horribly.
[QUOTE=UncleJimmema;36303018]The hell are you talking about? A nuke sub can stay underwater for months, hell it could be for years is it wasn't for a human crew. Americas subs are some of the most technologically advanced vessels out at sea, and because they have no loud engines to be clacking about they can go virtually undetected.[/QUOTE] [B]Exactly.[/B] The only limiting factor on a sub is the damn food.
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;36302738]Nuke Subs are outdated, with systems of modern radar and detection, they've become more of a wartime novelty. However, 30 some years ago, they were still a major threat, due to the unstable might of the Soviet Union. Fortunately, the USSR is gone, and Iran is nowhere near as severe a threat to the world as that.[/QUOTE] They're not out dated. They have basically unlimited range indefinitely. People can enlist, serve 7 years and then get out of the military, three times, before one of these things has to refuel. They also don't have to surface to charge any batteries.
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;36302738]Nuke Subs are outdated, with systems of modern radar and detection, they've become more of a wartime novelty. However, 30 some years ago, they were still a major threat, due to the unstable might of the Soviet Union. Fortunately, the USSR is gone, and Iran is nowhere near as severe a threat to the world as that.[/QUOTE] pfftahahahahhha stop learning about the military from cawadooty
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;36302738]Nuke Subs are outdated, with systems of modern radar and detection, they've become more of a wartime novelty. However, 30 some years ago, they were still a major threat, due to the unstable might of the Soviet Union. Fortunately, the USSR is gone, and Iran is nowhere near as severe a threat to the world as that.[/QUOTE] If you really think a nuclear submarine is a novelty then you really need to reevaluate what you think you know about war
[QUOTE][B]Admiral Zamini said Iran has developed “peaceful nuclear technology” and has both the capability and the right to build a submarine.[/B][/QUOTE] And then.. [QUOTE][B]Iran has begun to design its first nuclear submarine, a semi-official news agency in the country has reported.[/B][/QUOTE] Not sure if trolling or..
Good for them. I don't see an issue with this. Simply building a nuclear sub doesn't mean they have the stealth technology to keep it hidden nor the missile capability to fire nuke missiles from it like the US.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;36304521]Good for them. I don't see an issue with this. Simply building a nuclear sub doesn't mean they have the stealth technology to keep it hidden nor the missile capability to fire nuke missiles from it like the US.[/QUOTE] Don't they? They acquired Kilo-class subs which probably have some sort of stealth tech on them and then they have a space program.
[QUOTE=Chernarus;36304537]Don't they? They acquired Kilo-class subs which probably have some sort of stealth tech on them and then they have a space program.[/QUOTE] Not to my knowledge they do, but I don't exactly keep tabs on the military development of Iran either, so I could be wrong.
Kursk 2.0
designing and building are two very different things.
Inb4 people confuse nuclear power and nuclear weaponry. Oops, too late. [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Meme reply" - Craptasket))[/highlight]
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;36304521]Good for them. I don't see an issue with this. Simply building a nuclear sub doesn't mean they have the stealth technology to keep it hidden nor the missile capability to fire nuke missiles from it like the US.[/QUOTE] I don't think building a weapon of war with nuclear technology constitutes peaceful means
[QUOTE=scout1;36305417]I don't think building a weapon of war with nuclear technology constitutes peaceful means[/QUOTE] Well fuck, we should immediately invade the United States, they have tons of WMD's and are constantly building up their military with new war technology!
Some scale models of their baking sod- I mean nuclear submarine [img]http://www.gasolinealleyantiques.com/images/Premiums/sub-baking-small.JPG[/img]
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;36305530]Well fuck, we should immediately invade the United States, they have tons of WMD's and are constantly building up their military with new war technology![/QUOTE] The difference being one is supposed to have nuclear weapons and means and one is not, and continues to claim they are not.
[QUOTE=UncleJimmema;36303018]The hell are you talking about? A nuke sub can stay underwater for months, hell it could be for years is it wasn't for a human crew. Americas subs are some of the most technologically advanced vessels out at sea, and because they have no loud engines to be clacking about they can go virtually undetected. Something tells me if they even do build one that it is going to end horribly.[/QUOTE] 'No loud engines'? What 'bout the pumps you constantly need going for that reactor? That's where diesel-electric/AIP boats get their 'silence' from as they can switch over to electric without having the continual flow noises of a constantly running reactor. Not saying that modern nuclear subs, especially those amid the USN and RN, aren't silent, but the majority of their non-propulsor noise comes from the reactor.
[QUOTE=Useful Dave;36306814]'No loud engines'? What 'bout the pumps you constantly need going for that reactor? That's where diesel-electric/AIP boats get their 'silence' from as they can switch over to electric without having the continual flow noises of a constantly running reactor. Not saying that modern nuclear subs, especially those amid the USN and RN, aren't silent, but the majority of their non-propulsor noise comes from the reactor.[/QUOTE] Diesel boats have extremely limited range and speed compared to nuclear boats.
[QUOTE=Jetblack357;36306907]Diesel boats have extremely limited range and speed compared to nuclear boats.[/QUOTE] [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collins_class_submarine]there are some notable benefits to diesel submarines as well though, one being they can be [B]extremely[/B] quite.[/url]
[QUOTE=wizard`;36308609][url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collins_class_submarine]there are some notable benefits to diesel submarines as well though, one being they can be [B]extremely[/B] quite.[/url][/QUOTE] Seeing your avatar next to this thread from the homepage was great.
[QUOTE=wizard`;36308609][url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collins_class_submarine]there are some notable benefits to diesel submarines as well though, one being they can be [B]extremely[/B] quite.[/url][/QUOTE] Im well aware of that, though the need for fuel is a huge fallback.
[QUOTE=RichyZ;36305890]look out, a wild submarine! [img]http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0osr4onj91qapokl.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] i wonder if someone will make a zoom in lmao picture out of this
This just in: Iran once again announces that they're designing something we've had for decades.
[QUOTE=Jonii;36309808]This just in: Iran once again announces that they're designing something we've had for decades.[/QUOTE] We must stop them from having such [B]advanced 21st century[/b] weaponry!
[QUOTE=RichyZ;36305890]look out, a wild submarine! [img]http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0osr4onj91qapokl.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] Human used unplug. [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/W5x6y.jpg[/IMG] It's SUPER effective!
[QUOTE=UncleJimmema;36303018]The hell are you talking about? A nuke sub can stay underwater for months, hell it could be for years is it wasn't for a human crew. Americas subs are some of the most technologically advanced vessels out at sea, and because they have no loud engines to be clacking about they can go virtually undetected. Something tells me if they even do build one that it is going to end horribly.[/QUOTE] diesel-electrics are actually quieter, due to the hum created by the reactor on a nuke sub, but nuke subs can stay under water indefinitely, while a D-E can only stay under as long as its batteries have a charge
[QUOTE=viperfan7;36309938]diesel-electrics are actually quieter, due to the hum created by the reactor on a nuke sub, but nuke subs can stay under water indefinitely, while a D-E can only stay under as long as its batteries have a charge[/QUOTE] They really aren't much quieter though.
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