Syrian refugees drag paedophile to police after he was found attacking 7-year-old at refugee camp
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[quote]Two Syrian refugees have spoken about how they handed over a suspected paedophile to police officers, after they allegedly caught him trying to rape a seven-year-old girl.Bashar Al-Ali, 29, from Deir ez-Zor, and Dlar Sedo, 24, from Aleppo, [URL="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3499369/Migrants-Idomeni-camp-frogmarch-suspected-paedophile-police.html"]told the [/URL][I][URL="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3499369/Migrants-Idomeni-camp-frogmarch-suspected-paedophile-police.html"]Daily Mail[/URL] [/I]they were in the Idomeni camp in Greece when they heard the girl's father shout: "He's trying to rape my daughter."
They rushed towards the woodland to find the Afghan refugee allegedly trying to undress the girl behind a row of temporary toilets.
After grabbing the man, they marched him to the police, who arrested him.
In [URL="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3499369/Migrants-Idomeni-camp-frogmarch-suspected-paedophile-police.html"]an interview with the [I]Daily Mail[/I][/URL], Mr al-Ali said: "The Afghan man took her behind the toilets and then she started to scream.
"I ran over and saw that he was trying to remove her t-shirt and trousers. I grabbed him and started kicking him."
The men were pictured leading the alleged paedophile a mile through the camp, while other refugees tried to hit him.
Mr Sedo said: "We all heard the screams. People wanted to kill him but we said no, it’s not our job to kill him.
"We are in a civilised country and we need to let the police take care of this."
The Greek interior minister said refugees are living in conditions [URL="http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/idomeni-refugee-dachau-nazi-concentration-camp-greek-minister-a6938826.html"]comparable to Nazi concentration camps[/URL] when he visited the Idomeni camp, which sits on Greece's border with Macedonia.
Despite being planned for just 2,500 people, the camp hosts around 12,000 refugees in wet, cold and muddy conditions.[/quote]
[URL]http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/syrian-refugees-drag-paedophile-to-police-after-he-was-found-attacking-7-year-old-at-refugee-camp-a6942161.html[/URL]
How responsible of them to drag the man to police, good for them! He'll probably get several years or decades in prison I imagine.
[quote]Mr Sedo said: "We all heard the screams. People wanted to kill him but we said no, it’s not our job to kill him.
"[U]We are in a civilised country[/U] and we need to let the police take care of this."[/quote]
I thought they were all savage barbarians that refuse to assimilate into civilization??
[QUOTE=TheNerdPest14;49971013]How responsible of them to drag the man to police, good for them! He'll probably get several years or decades in prison I imagine.[/QUOTE]
Maybe in Afghanistan, otherwise why should Europeans pay their taxes so this vermin can leech of them?
[quote]I thought they were all savage barbarians that refuse to assimilate into civilization??[/quote]
And I can turn that around in the same sense and say "I thought they were all peaceful people only seeking safety??"
[QUOTE=Starpluck;49971027]I thought they were all savage barbarians that refuse to assimilate into civilization??[/QUOTE]
I don't want to be a dick, but most of them apparently [I]did[/I] want to lynch him on the spot.
[QUOTE=Dzonintz;49971028]And I can turn that around in the same sense and say "I thought they were all peaceful people only seeking safety??"[/QUOTE]
It's almost like there are good and bad people within every group and it's silly to say they're all one thing or another
[QUOTE=BigJoeyLemons;49971082]It's almost like there are good and bad people within every group and it's silly to say they're all one thing or another[/QUOTE]
no thats retarded dont be a muslim-lovin' nonpatriotic traitor, theyre obviously all bombers and rapists
On a non-sarcastic note, it's good to see something relatively good in the media relating to refugees
[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;49971110]And this would have played out differently if this happened in a US town with white people? (Not even going to touch the topic of if a black person did it. That brings in entirely different issues.)
Think of the reputation the US jail system has for other inmates' treatment of jailed pedophiles.[/QUOTE]
What about a US town with black people? (not going to touch the topic if a white person did it there). You see how it can easily be turned around?
SO lets just instead say "town with less civilized people in it".
[QUOTE=Saturn V;49971155]This is applicable to a lot of people in pretty much every religious group in the world.[/QUOTE]
If anything, it represents that they're thinking less theocratically and they're taking local law into account, which is a good step away from the whole "Islam is incompatible with the west" thing
[QUOTE=!LORD M!;49971146]What about a US town with black people? (not going to touch the topic if a white person did it there). You see how it can easily be turned around?
SO lets just instead say "town with less civilized people in it".[/QUOTE]
My point was to not bring US racism into the picture, because that complicates the comparison more than it helps anything. You're exactly proving my point by introducing crap that distracts from the point.
And, no, I said [I]town[/I], not [I]town with uneducated degenerates[/I].
[QUOTE=Dzonintz;49971028]Maybe in Afghanistan, otherwise why should Europeans pay their taxes so this vermin can leech of them?[/QUOTE]
He'd get nothing in Afghanistan because that's the most ass backwards of all Muslim countries.
[QUOTE=Starpluck;49971027]I thought they were all savage barbarians that refuse to assimilate into civilization??[/QUOTE]
A minority ye. Most just want to live on handout and rape white women.
[QUOTE=BigJoeyLemons;49971172]If anything, it represents that they're thinking less theocratically and they're taking local law into account, which is a good step away from the whole "Islam is incompatible with the west" thing[/QUOTE]
Except that is nonsense since Islam is based on the absolute truths of Koran, Sunna and Hadiths. These are unchangeable facts, thus there is no room for reformation of Islam. If the new reformed Islam is not based upon the Sunna and the Koran, then it is apostasy, the worst crime in Islam.
[QUOTE=Swebonny;49971204]A minority ye. Most just want to live on handout and rape white women.[/QUOTE]
This is true, there was a statistic from the European Union Ministry of Facts that showed a statistic on this. The statistic was backed up by the Ministry interviewing every single Middle Eastern refugee that has entered Europe, legally or otherwise, so it's accurate.
I won't post the statistic though, because I don't want to. You'll just have to take my word that Muslims want to conquer Europe.
[QUOTE=Dzonintz;49971213]Except that is nonsense since Islam is based on the absolute truths of Koran, Sunna and Hadiths. These are unchangeable facts, thus there is no room for reformation of Islam. If the new reformed Islam is not based upon the Sunna and the Koran, then it is apostasy, the worst crime in Islam.[/QUOTE]
No, you're completely fucking wrong about Islam not being able to be moderate. Christianity is based on the absolute truths of the Bibles. Judaism was based on the absolute truths of the Torah. Yet both religions went past that. In fact, Islam was like that at well at one point. Back when the Ottoman Empire was still a thing, Islam was in fact the most progressive of all the religions. It was only until the Ottoman Empire fell thus allowing the fundamentalist Wahhabi sects in Saudi Arabia to rise that Islam started to regress socially. There is a room for reform as with all other religions. To say that there isn't, goes completely against history.
At least this proves that they're not all bad like some believe.
[QUOTE=TornadoAP;49971276]No, you're completely fucking wrong. Christianity is based on the absolute truths of the Bibles. Judaism was based on the absolute truths of the Torah.[/quote]
This is such a dishonest comparison, Jesus' last words were "Father, forgive them; for they do not know what they are doing", while Mohammed's propagated violence against the Kafirs when his last words were "Let there be neither Christian or Jew left in Arabia.", not to mention that Jesus did not return to Nazareth and slaughter everyone who previously opposed them, along with raping their women and making them into sexual slaves.
[quote]Yet both religions went past that. In fact, Islam was like that at well at one point. Back when the Ottoman Empire was still a thing,[B]Islam was in fact the most progressive of all the religions.[/B] [/quote]
PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT. Islam was a living hell for Balkan Kafirs and Dhimmis, fucking shame on you for trying to whitewash that shit. What a load of nonsense, at least read up on tributes by blood if anything, and try reading up on Arab slave trade where every single day there were dozens of boats filled with women landing in Constatinople to be sold into sexual slavery. Very progressive indeed.
What you're not getting is that there are two sides of Islam. The side you're defending is from the muslim's point of view. I'm arguing for the non-muslim point of view.
[quote]It was only until the Ottoman Empire fell thus allowing the fundamentalist Wahhabi sects in Saudi Arabia to rise that Islam started to regress socially.[/quote]
The differences in sects of Islam are due to religion and not Islam's policies. Both Sunnis and Shias completely agree on how to treat Kafirs and jihad. All Muslims subscribe to one of five schools of Sharia and the Sharia's position regarding Kafirs and jihad is similar for all the sects. The only big difference is when to use violent jihad or peaceful jihad against the Kafirs.
[QUOTE]There is a room for reform as with all other religions. To say that there isn't, goes completely against history.[/QUOTE]
It is impossible to reform Islam, because it was designed so it could not be reformed or changed. Koran, Sunna and Hadiths are the absolute truths of Mohammad and cannot be changed under any circumstance, ask any Muslim about this. How can you change something that is already perfect in the eyes of the believer? If you do try to change it, it becomes apostasy which will end up getting you killed.
And even then, why do we want to reform Islam? Do we care if Muslims pray three times a day, instead of five times? No. The only reason we want reform is because of the violence against us. We do not want to reform the religion of Islam: we want to reform Political Islam.
[QUOTE=Dzonintz;49971213]Except that is nonsense since Islam is based on the absolute truths of Koran, Sunna and Hadiths. These are unchangeable facts, thus there is no room for reformation of Islam. If the new reformed Islam is not based upon the Sunna and the Koran, then it is apostasy, the worst crime in Islam.[/QUOTE]
why are you taking offense on behalf of a fundamentalist view of a religion you don't even like? are you just now discovering that religion is arbitrary and 99% based on the society it's brought up in?
It's unfortunate, but the only reason this good act is news is because of a bad act behind it.
People will still think they're all pedo rapists terrorists, because that's all that makes it to the news.
[QUOTE=Saturn V;49971155]This is applicable to a lot of people in pretty much every religious group in the world.[/QUOTE]
No? Even the most zealous westeners wouldn't be so eager to actually kill someone.
Just imagine you are being robbed and you have a chance to slit your robber's throat. Would you go for it? I am pretty sure most people wouldn't go for it.
Now being robbed is a situation when you are in immediate danger, and even then it's very questionable whether killing for defense is acceptable.
The situation they were in didn't involve any direct danger to them, but they still got the idea to kill a man.
I don't see how you can be so "oh everyone does it" when we are talking about killing a man.
[QUOTE=MuffinZerg;49971467]No? Even the most zealous westeners wouldn't be so eager to actually kill someone.
Just imagine you are being robbed and you have a chance to slit your robber's throat. Would you go for it? I am pretty sure most people wouldn't go for it.
Now being robbed is a situation when you are in immediate danger, and even then it's very questionable whether killing for defense is acceptable.
The situation they were in didn't involve any direct danger to them, but they still got the idea to kill a man.
I don't see how you can be so "oh everyone does it" when we are talking about killing a man.[/QUOTE]
so are you really gonna tell me wanting to lynch pedophiles caught in the act is an islam exclusive thing
[QUOTE=MuffinZerg;49971467]No? Even the most zealous westeners wouldn't be so eager to actually kill someone.
Just imagine you are being robbed and you have a chance to slit your robber's throat. Would you go for it? I am pretty sure most people wouldn't go for it.
Now being robbed is a situation when you are in immediate danger, and even then it's very questionable whether killing for defense is acceptable.
The situation they were in didn't involve any direct danger to them, but they still got the idea to kill a man.
I don't see how you can be so "oh everyone does it" when we are talking about killing a man.[/QUOTE]
[URL="https://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1190170"]Yup, this is definitely not a thing that happens in the pussified non-violent West. Nope, this thread never happened, nuh.[/URL]
And nobody in the thread said "he was justified" either. Yup, uh huh.
[QUOTE=Dzonintz;49971350]
It is impossible to reform Islam, because it was designed so it could not be reformed or changed. Koran, Sunna and Hadiths are the absolute truths of Mohammad and cannot be changed under any circumstance, ask any Muslim about this. How can you change something that is already perfect in the eyes of the believer? If you do try to change it, it becomes apostasy which will end up getting you killed.
[/QUOTE]
are you seriously arguing that islam cannot change
[editline]20th March 2016[/editline]
because that is historically laughable
[QUOTE=Cloak Raider;49971533]are you seriously arguing that islam cannot change
[editline]20th March 2016[/editline]
because that is historically laughable[/QUOTE]
Feel free to clarify your position, because today's land ruled by Sharia law would be no different than one ruled by it several centuries ago. The trilogy mentioned in the post you quoted is the core of Islam and that's indisputable. Mohammed is the supreme authority in Islam. No Muslim, media, imam, book, article or anything can be above Mohammed.
If you can, try telling me few events where Islam was reformed or changed, because I only know of one with polytheism which Mohammed "rolled back" in the end and claimed that event as Satanic verses.
[QUOTE=Dzonintz;49971590]Feel free to clarify your position, because today's land ruled by Sharia law would be no different than one ruled by it several centuries ago. The trilogy mentioned in the post you quoted is the core of Islam and that's indisputable. Mohammed is the supreme authority in Islam. No Muslim, media, imam, book, article or anything can be above Mohammed.
If you can, try telling me few events where Islam was reformed or changed, because I only know of one with polytheism which Mohammed "rolled back" in the end and claimed that event as Satanic verses.[/QUOTE]
christianity has never changed by this definition
[editline]20th March 2016[/editline]
if islam never changed, how the fuck did this happen
[img]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/66/Islam_branches_and_schools.svg/1032px-Islam_branches_and_schools.svg.png[/img]
Please read my previous posts.
[quote]The differences in sects of Islam are due to religion and not Islam's policies. Both Sunnis and Shias completely agree on how to treat Kafirs and jihad. All Muslims subscribe to one of five schools of Sharia and the Sharia's position regarding Kafirs and jihad is similar for all the sects. The only big difference is when to use violent jihad or peaceful jihad against the Kafirs.[/quote]
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