• Israeli settlers torch 200 olive trees in the West Bank, while under the protection of the "Worlds M
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[quote]Israeli settlers on Saturday set 200 olive trees on Palestinian farmlands near Nablus, northern the occupied West Bank, on fire, an eyewitness said. He added that scores of settlers set the olive trees ablaze under protection from the Israeli army, which did not move to prevent them. Civil defense personnel could get to the burning trees, which contributed to their total destruction, the eyewitness told Anadolu Agency. The residents of the area, where the attacked farmlands are located, earn a living by growing olives.[/quote] Just another day in the neighborhood. [url]http://www.worldbulletin.net/todays-news/140579/israeli-settlers-burn-200-w-bank-olive-trees[/url]
Yeah, that is the apex of sending a fucking message to not only to the rest of the world, but to every generation that comes after us and looks at the clusterfuck of Israeli/Palestine.
Looks like burning the olive branch wasn't enough for them.
There's just something about the burning of crops and trees that pisses me right the fuck off what with so many people starving or living on a single meal a day.
Peace loving Israel.
Imagine the thought process of someone defending shit israel does like this.
[QUOTE=Crimor;45374323]Imagine the thought process of someone defending shit israel does like this.[/QUOTE] "muh blind nationalism" - in the vein of Dopefish's 'swim swim hungry'
[QUOTE=Zonesylvania;45374077]There's just something about the burning of crops and trees that pisses me right the fuck off what with so many people starving or living on a single meal a day.[/QUOTE] It's not just that, they're trees - I mean, it takes ages for them to go and do no harm to anyone and all they do is give and give and give, and then you come along and decide to be an asshole and burn it to the ground because fuck that other guy. What the fuck did that tree do to you? Annoy you with it's nice shade? Piss you off with its evil olives? Irritate you with with the ecosystem it helps support? I'm not a hippie, but I love trees and plants because they're awesome. When people do shit like this it really pisses me off.
So, we have a journalist who interviewed a man claiming Israeli soldiers burned their trees with no other evidence. I see everyone is jumping on the Israel hate bandwagon without thinking it through. According to Whois Worldbulletin.net is registered in Turkey. Seeing as nearly every Muslim country in the world hates Israel you really can't trust them as a non-biased source.
[QUOTE=Zonesylvania;45374077]There's just something about the burning of crops and trees that pisses me right the fuck off what with so many people starving or living on a single meal a day.[/QUOTE] Same. It's up there with burning books.
[QUOTE=The golden;45374403]When a country is trying to commit an ethnic cleansing I think it's reasonable to point fingers at them first especially when Israeli settlers have a long history of destroying Palestinian property. This is nothing new.[/QUOTE] I don't see them rounding up Palestinians and loading them on trains to Auschwitz myself. On the other hand, most of the countries surrounding them are led by people who have openly stated they want to exterminate Israel.
[QUOTE=download;45374425]I don't see them rounding up Palestinians and loading them on trains to Auschwitz myself. On the other hand, most of the countries surrounding them are led by people who have openly stated they want to exterminate Israel.[/QUOTE] Palestinians are actually treated far worse in the Arab world than they are treated by Israel. If anyone is 'exterminating' or committing 'ethnic cleansing' against the Palestinian people, it's Egypt, Syria, Lebanon and Jordan (Kuwait as well, during the late 90's). Even though those are extremely strong words that should not be misused for the sake of emotional impact. [url]http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/1422/palestinians-in-arab-world[/url] [url]http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2012/11/30/palestinians-israel-settlements-arab-countries-refugees/[/url] [url]http://www.meforum.org/3391/kuwait-expels-palestinians[/url]
[QUOTE=The golden;45374514]None of this excuses the way Israel treats them. Shifting the blame doesn't solve the problem.[/QUOTE] Yet here you are calling out Israel while worse crimes are committed by other countries in the Middle East. I'm not saying Israel is perfect, but they're are far far better than any other country in the Middle East.
[QUOTE=Melnek;45374480]Palestinians are actually treated far worse in the Arab world than they are treated by Israel. If anyone is 'exterminating' or committing 'ethnic cleansing' against the Palestinian people, it's Egypt, Syria, Lebanon and Jordan (Kuwait as well, during the late 90's). Even though those are extremely strong words that should not be misused for the sake of emotional impact. [URL]http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/1422/palestinians-in-arab-world[/URL] [URL]http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2012/11/30/palestinians-israel-settlements-arab-countries-refugees/[/URL] [URL]http://www.meforum.org/3391/kuwait-expels-palestinians[/URL][/QUOTE] But it's Israel's fault that they are refugees in the first place.
That's the problem with the middle east, so much of it it's fucked up it's hard to see who the 'good guys' are, or if there are any in the first place.
[QUOTE=The golden;45374514]None of this excuses the way Israel treats them. Shifting the blame doesn't solve the problem.[/QUOTE] The intent isn't to excuse anything, nor is it to shift blame. If what people truly care about is the safety and protection of the Palestinian people, then they should focus their attention to where it truly matters and where the actual oppression and discrimination happens. Does this not make sense? By comparison, Israeli treatment of Palestinians is negligible at best to what they have to endure in the surrounding areas where they are treated as no more than freeloading cattle deserving nothing short of heavy persecution from the state authorities, starvation and unemployment. Israel imposes many complex and frankly detrimental security measures that include a closure system, restriction of main roads that cripples Palestinian infrastructural navigation near their borders, and many other subtle bureaucratic and militaristic restrictions that all amount to strong evidence of clear political favoritism and segregation between Palestinians and Israelis. These are, of course, presented as necessary for national security -- however many critics rightfully uphold the notion that these measures are too harsh and extreme. Israel is under a microscope from countless of human rights organizations, they make a wrong move, the world will know about it. But other Arab nations aren't, especially in Palestinian refugee camps. This gives a free hand to those nations to do whatever they please to the massive wave of (in their eyes) illegal immigrants that have no education or qualification for long-term employment. The only thing they can do about these immigrants is take-away their rights and have them banned by law from working in a large number of jobs as well as have no right for health care of any kind. These are developing nations that do not have the means to support large amounts of unqualified workers. So they are detained in refugee camps indefinitely where the fate of most is either death or, at best, forced manual labor. Or radicalization. As a side note to people who may be defending the article in the OP as an unreliable source: Settlers are known to do this for a long time, they see it as 'their land' and the Olive tree is culturally an Arab symbol. They systematically burn the trees out of pure self-righteousness to make way for future settlements among other acts of vandalism and are generally state-sponsored cunts that think the world should cater to them no matter what. They don't deserve neither justification nor rationalization.
[QUOTE=The golden;45374403]When a country is trying to commit an ethnic cleansing I think it's reasonable to point fingers at them first especially when Israeli settlers have a long history of destroying Palestinian property. This is nothing new.[/QUOTE] I think it's more reasonable to check and look up stuff to confirm before making a quick assumption because thinking for yourself might be too difficult.
[QUOTE=The golden;45374403]When a country is trying to commit an ethnic cleansing I think it's reasonable to point fingers at them first[/QUOTE] especially in the absence of evidence no doubt
[QUOTE=laserguided;45374221]Peace loving Israel.[/QUOTE] A region of peace.
[QUOTE=The golden;45374561]I'm calling out Israel for their crimes because this is a thread about crimes by Israel. Should I be here bitching about how horrible Saudi Arabia's human rights violations are?[/QUOTE] Israel is a republic, while Saudi Arabia is a monarchy. We hold Israel on higher standards for human rights because of this.
[QUOTE=Crimor;45374323]Imagine the thought process of someone defending shit israel does like this.[/QUOTE] Israel has a right to defend itself against the olive scourge
[QUOTE=Fangz;45376145]Israel is a republic, while Saudi Arabia is a monarchy. We hold Israel on higher standards for human rights because of this.[/QUOTE] So if England starts doing the same things as Saudi Arabia you're gonna be fine with it cause they're a monarchy?
why are you guys so anti-israel
[QUOTE=Conscript;45376327]why are you guys so anti-israel[/QUOTE] wait until you see Starpluck
[QUOTE=Conscript;45376327]why are you guys so anti-israel[/QUOTE] because we're all fed up of their shit and the western world needs to stop fawning over israel
[QUOTE=Zuimzado;45376311]So if England starts doing the same things as Saudi Arabia you're gonna be fine with it cause they're a monarchy?[/QUOTE] England is a Parliamentary constitutional monarchy while Saudi Arabia is an absolute Monarchy. While I oversimplified the comparison before, I hope this clarified it.
[QUOTE=Fangz;45376355]England is a Parliamentary constitutional monarchy while Saudi Arabia is an absolute Monarchy. While I oversimplified the comparison before, I hope this clarified it.[/QUOTE] It still does not make sense. Just because X country has a different political system it doesn't mean that it gets a free pass in regards to human rights.
it doesn't but israel is for some reason treated as if they're doing something good whenever they fire rockets at palestine most likely because they're a jewish democracy
I wouldn't say they're being treated as if they're doing something good. More and more countries are realizing just how much they are trying to "kill off" the Palestinians, which has resulted in several international businesses to seek fortune elsewhere/drop their deals with Israel. An example would be a Danish business firm (that I can't remember the name of and what they were dealing with, sadly) who refused to continue to cooperate with Israel until they stopped their blatant mistreat of Palestinians.
[QUOTE=Kondor;45376374]it doesn't but israel is for some reason treated as if they're doing something good whenever they fire rockets at palestine most likely because they're a jewish democracy[/QUOTE] That's because they're targeting Hamas, no civilians, but it got pretty hard now that the Palestinians are acting as Hamas's personal human shields. Israel gains nothing politically or personally when killing civilians. Hamas is already using propaganda to lie about the amount of casualties on the Israeli side which is very low 3 dead so far. So it can't really say it it won yet. Now what it's trying to do is damage Israel's reputation as much as it can, that's pretty much the only effective thing that can do right now. [video=youtube;sl1-4x8-59E]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sl1-4x8-59E[/video] [video=youtube;VTArVIHDelg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTArVIHDelg[/video] [video=youtube;UXZEzbT0H1s]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXZEzbT0H1s[/video]
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