Australia is planning to resettle asylum seekers in Cambodia
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[B] Australia 'in early discussion' with Cambodia on refugee transfer
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Scott Morrison has given the clearest indication yet of a refugee resettlement deal with Cambodia, stating Australia is in “early discussions” with the south-east Asian state to eventually transfer refugees processed in Nauru.
The immigration minister [URL="http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/apr/04/tony-abbott-declines-to-rule-out-refugee-resettlement-deal-with-cambodia"]visited Cambodia last week[/URL], following a visit in March by the foreign minister, Julie Bishop, fueling speculation that a deal on asylum seekers was being forged.
[B]The minister told the ABC on Thursday that refugee resettlement should not mean “a ticket to a first-class economy” describing a resettlement deal with Cambodia as “an opportunity to change that paradigm”. [/B]
“Are we going to get behind a process which expands the number of countries that can participate in global resettlement where there's a dearth of places, or are we going to hold out and say that, well, we're only interested in freeing people from persecution if they can do so in a first-world economy?” Morrison said.
[B]Human rights advocates have also drawn attention to Cambodia’s poor human rights record and the fact that, according to the World Bank, 20% of Cambodians live beneath the poverty line.[/B][/quote]
[url]http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/apr/11/australia-in-early-discussions-with-cambodia-on-refugee-transfer[/url]
Turns out the government just isn't content with keeping asylum-seekers in indefinite detention, they want to ship them out to various third world countries so they don't have to worry about their welfare. Despicable.
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Australia has no obligation to them. They didn't ask for people to go to their shores.
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Also, Cambodia could totally use new population after their dictator completely killed off over 30 percent of the population.
[QUOTE=Lonestriper;44515730]No, we have quite extensive obligations towards them under the [b]UNHCR[/b] refugee convention of which we are signatories.[/QUOTE]
[quote]The Office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees[b] (UNHCR),[/b] also known as the UN Refugee Agency, is a[b] United Nations agency mandated to protect and support refugees at the request of a government or the UN itself and assists in their voluntary repatriation, local integration[u][i] or resettlement to a third country.[/i][/u][/b][/quote]
Lol. Do you even read the shit you post about?
[QUOTE=Paul McCartney;44515723]Australia has no obligation to them. They didn't ask for people to go to their shores.[/QUOTE]
No, we have quite extensive obligations towards them under the UNHCR refugee convention of which we are signatories.
[QUOTE=Paul McCartney;44515723]Australia has no obligation to them. They didn't ask for people to go to their shores.
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Also, Cambodia could totally use new population after their dictator completely killed off over 30 percent of the population.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, because it's totally their fault that they were trying to escape war and persecution by seeking a better life the only way they knew how, after being manipulated by countless people smugglers.
[QUOTE=Lonestriper;44515730]No, we have quite extensive obligations towards them under the UNHCR refugee convention of which we are signatories.[/QUOTE]
One could argue that different governments are different signatories.
Stop the boats.
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Or, send them away.
[QUOTE=Paul McCartney;44515740]One could argue that different governments are different signatories.[/QUOTE]
One could argue you're an idiot
[QUOTE=The Aussie;44515736]Yeah, because it's totally their fault that they were trying to escape war and persecution by seeking a better life the only way they knew how, after being manipulated by countless people smugglers.[/QUOTE]
You come to another country expecting a handout when you came illegally, you shouldn't expect anything.
The price of generosity is that you can choose who you give it to.
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[QUOTE=Lonestriper;44515749]One could argue you're an idiot[/QUOTE]
I'm not an idiot for being against illegal immigration. I'm for immigration and there's channels for it along with quotas.
A country without free range immigration has control of how they choose to handle it. Simple as that.
Man, our asylum seeker policies are the most backwards fucking thing ever.
[QUOTE=Lonestriper;44515730]No, we have quite extensive obligations towards them under the UNHCR refugee convention of which we are signatories.[/QUOTE]
Also. Cambodia is a signatory so couldn't you argue that they're doing their duty under the convention?
[t]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3c/Refugeeconvention.PNG[/t]
Food for thought. Cambodia has a rapidly growing economy and middle class and is recovering at a really high economic rate.
I don't see anything wrong with this unless they are treated poorly and left in bad conditions. It's not like they're being let free into the rest of Cambodia, hell, they would probably be treated better than half of the populace in Cambodia.
They sought asylum in Australia, who happen to be obligated in some way to receive them and give them asylum. Cambodia doesn't factor into this, regardless of their status.
[QUOTE=Lonestriper;44515826]They sought asylum in Australia, who happen to be obligated in some way to receive them and give them asylum. Cambodia doesn't factor into this, regardless of their status.[/QUOTE]
Uh yeah. They do.
[quote]The Office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR), also known as the UN Refugee Agency, is a United Nations agency mandated to protect and support refugees at the request of a government or the [b]UN itself and assists in their voluntary repatriation, local integration or resettlement to a third country.[/b][/quote]
It's doing what it was set up for.
[QUOTE=Tasm;44515820]I don't see anything wrong with this unless they are [B]treated poorly and left in bad conditions[/B].[/QUOTE]
So you agree its a bad thing then?
Just because you're a refugee doesn't mean shit. You want to know what the UN is doing right now? Look at Jordan or Lebanon. This is just one refugee camp in Jordan. It's population has more than tripled because of refugees. Not everything is Jordan, but the point is that a host country has no obligation to take in refugees and if they want to relocate them to an accepting country, the UN has things set up for that. Get over yourself.
[t]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6f/An_Aerial_View_of_the_Za%27atri_Refugee_Camp.jpg[/t]
I like how you pay lip service to their plight yet don't care in the slightest about them
UK announces all prisoners will be shipped to Australia
Wait, no I don't
[QUOTE=Lonestriper;44515875]I like how you pay lip service to their plight yet don't care in the slightest about them[/QUOTE]
If you want to care, take in a family.
[QUOTE=Paul McCartney;44515884]If you want to care, take in a family.[/QUOTE]
I can't, they've been resettled in Cambodia.
[QUOTE=Lonestriper;44515894]I can't, they've been resettled in Cambodia.[/QUOTE]
Guess you were lazy while they sat there for years and instead didn't go by and sponsored a couple of them.
Shame, they could have adapted well, thrown boomerangs, drank a victorias bitter. Now all they have to look forward to are jungles instead of the deserts of the north.
Neck yourself m8
[QUOTE=Lonestriper;44515903]Neck yourself m8[/QUOTE]
I'm not even exaggerating. If you want to help out, literally sponsor a refugee. They can stay if a citizen sponsors them.
Do your part.
[url]http://www.immi.gov.au/about/contracts-tenders-submissions/humanitarian-program.htm[/url]
[quote]The program is designed to fulfil our international obligations under the United Nations 1951 Convention relating to the Status of Refugees, and to go beyond these by helping people who are outside Australia but in great need of our help and protection.[/quote]
[QUOTE=Clovis;44515974]I'm okay with them resettling Cambodian asylum seekers back to Cambodia[/QUOTE]
Breaking news, all refugees attempting illegal entry into Australia without papers have been found to be Cambodian
[QUOTE=Paul McCartney;44515750]You come to another country expecting a handout when you came illegally, you shouldn't expect anything.
The price of generosity is that you can choose who you give it to.
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I'm sorry, don't put words in my fucking mouth. Did i say that we should give them handouts? No, i said that we shouldn't send them to a fucking third world country that is the poorest country in south east asia, with it's own existing huge fucking problems with everything from corruption to fucking [b]landmines[/b]. This is not good for refugees (Dumping people who speak a different language in a totally different culture with little to no government support is just going to be great right?) or the Cambodian government. This is so fucking backwards, barbaric, xenophobic and i fucking [b]hate[/b] that little shit stain Tony Abbott. He is Australia's Rick Santorum, and he got elected.
Good
[QUOTE=The Aussie;44515736]Yeah, because it's totally their fault that they were trying to escape war and persecution by seeking a better life the only way they knew how, after being manipulated by countless people smugglers.[/QUOTE]
what war and persecution?
Fucking, this government. 'This is a regional problem', yet they only want a solution that completely excludes Australia. Yep, the government reckons, the refugees are a regional problem but they'll turn the boats around, force them into Indonesian waters, or send asylum seekers to places like Cambodia or Nauru.
If it's a regional problem, why aren't we taking in a fair share of asylum seekers? Or is zero our fair share to a regional problem?
[QUOTE=Paul McCartney;44515723]Australia has no obligation to them. They didn't ask for people to go to their shores.
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Also, Cambodia could totally use new population after their dictator completely killed off over 30 percent of the population.
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the previous labor government gave the order for the dismantlement of the Pacific solution which hauled the asylum trade allowing for 2,000 people to die as a result, that 2,000 was never acknowledged by the government nor were the person whom given the order ever jailed.
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