• Anti-Muslim Bloggers Say They Are The Real Victims of Norway Attacks
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[URL="http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/anti-muslim-bloggers-say-they-are-real-victims-norway-attacks"]Now American Right-wingers try to out-evil themselves...[/URL] [quote]As we learn more about the right-wing terrorist in Norway whose deadly attacks [URL="http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fgw-norway-breivik-hearing-20110726,0,5553339.story"]left over ninety people dead[/URL], the anti-Muslim blog [I]FrontPageMag[/I] led by conservative activist David Horowitz is arguing that the real victims of the attacks are…anti-Muslim bloggers. Anders Behring Breivik [URL="http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/25/us/25debate.html?_r=1&ref=scottshane"]routinely frequented popular anti-Muslim blogs and cited American and European anti-Muslim figures[/URL] in his [URL="http://www.talk2action.org/story/2011/7/23/8287/32273/"]“manifesto” against progressives, minorities and “cultural Marxism.” [/URL] Mark Tapson of [I]FrontPageMag [/I][URL="http://frontpagemag.com/2011/07/25/the-norway-terrorist/"]claims[/URL] that Breivik’s actions did great damage to the cause of “Christian conservatives and critics of Jihad,” insisting that the progressive movement can’t “contain its collective glee” about the shooter’s far-right views: [quote] Now a new McVeigh has arisen, a symbol that the Left and Islamic supremacists themselves will use to bludgeon Christian conservatives and critics of jihad for the next sixteen years – Anders Behring Breivik. Breivik is in police custody for carrying out what some are calling Norway’s “Oklahoma City,” a reference to McVeigh’s 1995 bombing, of course. Breivik, who claims to have acted alone, set off a massive bomb that devastated an Oslo government building and killed seven, then traveled to a nearby youth camp for hundreds of teen children of Labour Party politicians, where he proceeded to massacre as many as 90 of them with ruthless, methodical gunfire. … The Left – including the mainstream media, and stealth jihadists themselves, like the ubiquitous Muslim Brotherhood legacy group CAIR, the Council on American-Islamic Relations – won’t even bother to contain its collective glee over the fact that Breivik is a “right-wing Christian.” The narrative is already being constructed that will use him to tar everyone on the Right, particularly vocal critics of Islamic fundamentalism. This is the same Left that hijacks any and all discussions of Islamic terrorism by jumping up to insist that all Muslims must not be smeared because of the actions of a “tiny minority of extremists,” that not all terrorism is committed by Muslims and not all Muslims are terrorists. Of course, no responsible anti-jihadist has ever made such claims, but the Left never bothers to concede this. By contrast, instead of living by the standards they demand of the Right, Leftists will now be perfectly happy to politicize Breivik’s terrorism and use him to tar everyone on the Right – Christians, conservatives, anti-jihadists, the Tea Party – everyone. And in fact, they have already begun attempting to link the Norway terrorist to Sarah Palin, of all people. [/quote] Bruce Thornton of [I]FrontPageMag [/I][URL="http://frontpagemag.com/2011/07/25/oslo-and-the-dangers-of-moral-equivalence-2/2/"]contends[/URL] that the terrorist attacks in Norway should not be used to claim that non-Muslims are capable of terrorism, arguing that violence is at the heart of Islam while uncharacteristic of Christianity. He goes on to say that the attacks “expose the bankruptcy of the EU,” although Thornton fails to mention that Norway is not a member of the European Union. He claims that the EU’s “cosmopolitanism” and “multiculturalism” stoked a right-wing reaction, warning that “violence [will] be increasingly regarded as a legitimate response to the EUtopian assaults against national identity and cultural traditions”: [quote]This fact reflects the most obvious fallacy behind the moral equivalence argument: the complete lack of anything remotely resembling a theology of violence in the Bible. Yes, there is plenty of blood and guts in the Old Testament, but as Raymond Ibrahim points out, the references to those battles are “descriptive, not prescriptive,” and reflect history rather than theology. There is nothing in the Bible remotely similar to the numerous commands to wage war against the infidel that can be found in the Koran, the hadiths, the biographies of Mohammed, and 14 centuries of Islamic jurisprudence, commentary, history, and theology. This reliance on moral equivalence not only obscures the causes of Muslim violence. It also leads to misunderstanding the true significance of European extremism. Rather than the expression of Christian or conservative pathology, acts like the Oslo bombing expose the bankruptcy of the EU utopian dream and its notion that nationalist loyalty and Christian identity are at best passé, at worst an expression of xenophobia or racism. EUtopia has marginalized legitimate nationalist and religious identity and exalted in its place some mythic transnational cosmopolitanism and sentimentalized multiculturalism alien to the lives of most ordinary Europeans. As such it creates the conditions in which extremist, if not neo-fascist varieties of nationalism, can flourish, particularly given the growing problems of marginalized and unassimilated Muslim immigrants. This is not to suggest that anything is responsible for the Oslo bombing other than the actions of the bomber. But it is important to understand the correct context of those actions. As EUtopia continues to unravel, both economically and as a politico-social ideal, we can expect to see extremist parties in Europe grow larger, and violence be increasingly regarded as a legitimate response to the EUtopian assaults against national identity and cultural traditions. [/quote] [/quote]
So much stupid in this world ffffffffff
Well there is some truth in it, since this will encourage political correctness and criticism will be pushed aside. You should be able to speak about taboo subjects without media and government silencing you. Otherwise there might be more maniacs like Breivik.
[quote=Mark Tapson]Now a new McVeigh has arisen, a symbol that the Left and Islamic supremacists themselves will use to bludgeon Christian conservatives and critics of jihad for the next sixteen years[/quote] You mean...like how you've been using Osama Bin Laden to bludgeon muslims for the past two decades?
[QUOTE=TH89;31330524]You mean...like how you've been using Osama Bin Laden to bludgeon muslims for the past two decades?[/QUOTE] Shhh, don't try and talk sense in to the nutters.
[QUOTE=Sexy Eskimo;31330364]Well there is some truth in it, since this will encourage political correctness and criticism will be pushed aside.[/QUOTE] Darn political correctness, ruining my ability to be a fanatical bigot!
Poor racists, no one will take them seriously any more... oh wait nobody ever did!
[QUOTE=TH89;31330676]Darn political correctness, ruining my ability to be a fanatical bigot![/QUOTE] Don't worry i'm sure you can do a good job anyway. Just take these explosives, put them in your car and blow something up. It will be fun! Trust me! You will smile all the way to your trial :D
Racism will always exist because people are assholes. If everyone was the same colour and looked similar it would be 'I hate those assholes from the north, let's kill them all!'. It's just an excuse for violent and/or stupid people to take some anger out on another human being.
"But the [i]real[/i] victims, the people really, [b]truly[/b] suffering, are those of us that agree with him. *sniff* It's really the left's fault, if they weren't left-leaning then he wouldn't have had to shoot their kids." Somebody please smack him upside the head with a shovel for me, please.
[QUOTE=Miskav;31330610]Shhh, don't try and talk sense in to the nutters.[/QUOTE] man you were the one that said a group of muslims WILL stab you if you came past them who are you calling a nutter?
[QUOTE=thisispain;31333503]man you were the one that said a group of muslims WILL stab you if you came past them who are you calling a nutter?[/QUOTE] I was speaking from experience, and I realize I was letting my emotions get the best of me in that topic, by no means do I hate all muslims, I just haven't had any good experiences with them so far in my life, only very negative. That is all.
[QUOTE=Miskav;31333629]I was speaking from experience, and I realize I was letting my emotions get the best of me in that topic, by no means do I hate all muslims, I just haven't had any good experiences with them so far in my life, only very negative. That is all.[/QUOTE] My best friend is Muslim.
[QUOTE=LarparNar;31333697]My best friend is Muslim.[/QUOTE] I have never met your best friend, I can't say anything about him.
[QUOTE=Miskav;31333629]I was speaking from experience, and I realize I was letting my emotions get the best of me in that topic, by no means do I hate all muslims, I just haven't had any good experiences with them so far in my life, only very negative. That is all.[/QUOTE] well chill the fuck out and have some turkish pizza
Ha. It's not like the several hundred people who fucking died are victims.
[QUOTE=thisispain;31333785]well chill the fuck out and have some turkish pizza[/QUOTE] I do believe that I'm calm now, thanks for your concern though.
David Horowitz was a tool to begin with. Nothing surprising here.
[QUOTE=TH89;31330524]You mean...like how you've been using Osama Bin Laden to bludgeon muslims for the past two decades?[/QUOTE] Isn't it obvious? When a muslim does something it's indicative of ALL muslims FOREVER
[QUOTE=Sexy Eskimo;31330364]Well there is some truth in it, since this will encourage political correctness and criticism will be pushed aside. You should be able to speak about taboo subjects without media and government silencing you. Otherwise there might be more maniacs like Breivik.[/QUOTE] Are you seriously implying political correctness breeds people like Breivik?
[QUOTE=Miskav;31333629]I was speaking from experience, and I realize I was letting my emotions get the best of me in that topic, by no means do I hate all muslims, I just haven't had any good experiences with them so far in my life, only very negative. [/QUOTE] I have a sneaking suspicion that it's partly your fault. I'm not defending violent actions committed by anyone, but surely you must be exaggerating when you say that you only have negative experiences from immigrants or muslims. I'm saying this because I live in one of Sweden's biggest suburb, it's full of immigrants from lots of different countries. I'm a white young male, and look like a typical Swede (I'm actually half-Finnish but that's hardly relevant), and I meet immigrants from every culture practically everyday, because I have to take the tram to get to the city where my school is. How many times have I been robbed? 0 times. How many times have I been assaulted? 0 times. The immigrants here are generally friendly but there is also a lot of criminality due to poverty and failure to immigrate. That's why I think people who claim that they are often assaulted, robbed etc. are exaggerating, and probably hiding something.
I'm literally too disappointed to laugh at this guy
[QUOTE=Sexy Eskimo;31330364]Well there is some truth in it, since this will encourage political correctness and criticism will be pushed aside. You should be able to speak about taboo subjects without media and government silencing you. Otherwise there might be more maniacs like Breivik.[/QUOTE] This video is focused on another shooting, but it does give some insight on why people do these things - for the pertinent stuff, skip to one minute 42 seconds. [video=youtube;PezlFNTGWv4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PezlFNTGWv4[/video] It's this whole media frenzy which generates maniacs who think they can prove something with random, pointless acts of violence.
Tbh why should we tolerate someone if they dont tolerate us? If they cant accept our western ideals they can go back to their shithole. Inb4beingcalledaracists
[QUOTE=InurFace;31335183]Tbh why should we tolerate someone if they dont tolerate us? If they cant accept our western ideals they can go back to their shithole. Inb4beingcalledaracists[/QUOTE] one of our western ideals is tolerance and liberalism if you can't accept that then find a shithole to live in
[QUOTE=InurFace;31335183]Tbh why should we tolerate someone if they dont tolerate us? If they cant accept our western ideals they can go back to their shithole. Inb4beingcalledaracists[/QUOTE] you're such a racists
[QUOTE=Ond kaja;31334870]I have a sneaking suspicion that it's partly your fault. I'm not defending violent actions committed by anyone, but surely you must be exaggerating when you say that you only have negative experiences from immigrants or muslims. I'm saying this because I live in one of Sweden's biggest suburb, it's full of immigrants from lots of different countries. I'm a white young male, and look like a typical Swede (I'm actually half-Finnish but that's hardly relevant), and I meet immigrants from every culture practically everyday, because I have to take the tram to get to the city where my school is. How many times have I been robbed? 0 times. How many times have I been assaulted? 0 times. The immigrants here are generally friendly but there is also a lot of criminality due to poverty and failure to immigrate. That's why I think people who claim that they are often assaulted, robbed etc. are exaggerating, and probably hiding something.[/QUOTE] I wouldn't know what I'm doing wrong, I don't approach them because I don't know them, but that's about it. And to be fair, you're free to believe I'm lying, I'm the one who has to live with their actions, in the literal sense of the word it has crippled me for life, I wish I was lying about it.
[QUOTE=Miskav;31335257]I wouldn't know what I'm doing wrong, I don't approach them because I don't know them, but that's about it. And to be fair, you're free to believe I'm lying, I'm the one who has to live with their actions, in the literal sense of the word it has crippled me for life, I wish I was lying about it.[/QUOTE]I wouldn't call you a liar, that's too harsh. I think you're exaggerating though, whether intentionally or not.
[QUOTE=Ond kaja;31335293]I wouldn't call you a liar, that's too harsh. I think you're exaggerating though, whether intentionally or not.[/QUOTE] Like I said, you're free to believe what you want, anyway we went plenty offtopic here.
[QUOTE=staticman;31330327][URL="http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/anti-muslim-bloggers-say-they-are-real-victims-norway-attacks"]Now American Right-wingers try to out-evil themselves...[/URL][/QUOTE] You can add Pamela Gellar to that list too. [quote]It is almost inconceivable that one passing reference in a 1,516-page screed would be sufficient for the Islamic/leftist machine to assign blame to yours truly, and to those of us who are working diligently to educate the people. It's extraordinary that this is being swallowed whole by the mainstream media. It's extraordinary that we experience thwarted plots, acts of jihad on a weekly and sometimes daily basis, without the mainstream media ever referring to the very ideology that inspires, commands, and prescribes such violence. But the left wing alternative media is madly running with this. [/quote] On her shitty excuse for a news site that's really a blog.
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