[quote] Xbox LIVE Bans for Swastika Black Ops Emblems
By Brenna Hillier - Mon Nov 22, 2010 5:42am -
Political minefield.
The Call of Duty series has been a reliable source of controversy over the last few years, arguably to its favour, but this time nobody's asking developers or publishers to remove potentially offensive material. Instead, Microsoft have put their foot down over a sudden spate of swastika-themed Black Ops emblems, promising to ban those who transgress.
Xbox LIVE's Stephen Toulouse has laid down the law on the matter via Twitter, and later his blog. The Director of Policy and Enforcement was asked for clarification by a player wanting to use the symbol, which is most commonly recognised in the Western world as that of Hitler's Nazi party, as his Black Ops emblem. His reply was to the point:
"Seriously dude? Yes, you will get banned using a swastika as your Black Ops emblem. I don't care if you "just like the design". ... Sorry, this isn’t a debate. The number of people offended by the representation of genocide far outweighs the few who see an innocent symbol."
Despite the finality of the decision, Toulouse has suffered increasing attack from defenders of the swastika, mounting arguments that the symbol has other more positive associations or that the violation of Xbox LIVE's terms of service is part of their nation's right to freedom of speech.
Toulouse has since posted an exasperated reply on his personal blog:
"The Xbox LIVE profile and in game content you create is accessible by everyone. You do not have the context inside of it to explain your long winded contrarian view that your pithy text that violates the Terms of Use or Code of Conduct is actually intended to change people’s minds about a commonly held understanding.
It’s not political correctness, it’s fundamental respect. If you think the swastika symbol should be re-evaluated by societies all over the Earth, I think that’s great. Your Xbox LIVE profile or in game logo, which doesn’t have the context to explain your goal, is not the right place to do that.
... If you see offensive symbols in Call of Duty, Black Ops, report them using the in game option and they will be taken care of. If you want to argue that swastikas are actually AWESOME, go to another forum. On Xbox LIVE they are not allowed."
Personally we cannot imagine wanting to sport any particular icon enough to argue so vehemently for it. Your thoughts?
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But i still think they are slightly hypocritical, i mean people been fighting nazi's in almost all call of duty games, big swastikas banners and flags all over the place. Making it feel even more awesome killing nazi's not to mention nazi zombies.
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SS Nazi Duck.
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The style still looks good.
I do like the design of the Swastika, if only for the power of it's presence.
but my swastika is a indian symbol for healing so it's legit right :downs:
that's a pretty cool looking emblem and i don't see how people are going to call the person using it a mini hitler.
The 'SS' runes are cool too.
Is there anything more offensive then the Swastikas
What if I'm using for the original symbolism?
So If I put a Naked Sarah Palin there it's alright?
Suddenly MS became the SS
Furries
What's worse is that the idiots who actually use a Swastika make it backwards. It's in the fucking game a million times yet they don't have the memory to remember the correct way of making one. Also, since it is in the game a million times, why the fuck are they making it a big deal? Just let them have their fun. Fuck the people who find it offensive, they should get over it and move on/focus on the future.
[QUOTE=Biotoxsin;26236616]What if I'm using for the original symbolism?[/QUOTE]
Too many people will mistake it for the Nazi symbol and be offended.
[QUOTE=Biotoxsin;26236616]What if I'm using for the original symbolism?[/QUOTE]
but you aren't.
[QUOTE=Mr.Dounut;26236697]but you aren't.[/QUOTE]
stop being a shit poster.
not everyone who decides to use a swastika is advocating genocide.
Their game, their rules
Swastikas all over the game, but one more time in an emblem is too much.
:frog:
[QUOTE=SgtCr4zyAlt;26236715]stop being a shit poster.
not everyone who decides to use a swastika is advocating genocide.[/QUOTE]
No, but they are probably doing it to piss people off.
Yet nothing happens on Steam or PSN. I wonder how many people are complaining about it on those versions? And what about the penises?
[QUOTE=Brage Nyman;26236612]Is there anything more offensive then the Swastikas[/QUOTE]
A Swastika made of dead babies.
Swastikas are banned in CoD Playercards.
Nothing wrong with having them on the Reichstag or Honor Guards though, or any other Nazi building or item.
give people the ability to use rectangles and circles and customize the color to anything and you'll have swastikas
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[QUOTE=Valnar;26236776]No, but they are probably doing it to piss people off.[/QUOTE]
so they're just fucking around trying to have a lil fun
[QUOTE=Habsburg;26236722]Their game, their rules[/QUOTE]
A) It's Microsoft that's doing it
B) There are ALREADY swastikas all over the game
C) Nobody gives a shit on the pc\ps3 version
The flag of Japan and hammer and sickle are easier to make, and both nations killed a hell of a lot more people than the Nazis did.
[QUOTE=CjienX;26236922]A) It's Microsoft that's doing it
B) There are ALREADY swastikas all over the game
C) Nobody gives a shit on the pc\ps3 version[/QUOTE]
okay, their online network, their rules
i think it's funny that cod games in the past have had nazis as enemies with swastikas all over the damn place
but one single time the "good guys" use it they make it completely violatory to ever do so again
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so they're just fucking around trying to have a lil fun[/QUOTE]
Fun derived from pissing people off.
[QUOTE=SgtCr4zyAlt;26236715]stop being a shit poster.
not everyone who decides to use a swastika is advocating genocide.[/QUOTE]
implying that i meant he was advocating genocide
representing a fascist regime /=/ advocating genocide
They've been doing this for a while. My friend got a two hour ban last week for having one.
Wow I didn't know you could make these things that's really neat of them.
Microsoft is banning people for how they look? What are they nazis or something?
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