• DEA Chief: Marijuana Legalization Just 'Makes Us Fight Harder'
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[url]http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/02/dea-marijuana-legalization_n_5078046.html[/url] I say good, Law enforcement butthurt on this issue is always music to my ears.
Oh jesus christ DEA give it up. Its a fight you aren't going to win. I don't care how stubborn you are.
Well if they think they can do that, we'll probably have to put the mangy old dog out of its misery.
Clearly a woman who is acting in the best interests of the public definitely not an idiot on a power trip. [quote]Leonhart claimed that Mexican drug cartels are "setting up shop" in Washington and Colorado in anticipation of a black market. "Whatever the price will be set in Washington and Colorado, criminal organizations are ready to come in and sell cheaper," Leonhart said. [/quote] Yeah no you're totally right as the 1920s showed us legal intoxicants are totally what makes bootlegging thrive
didn't they just start targeting medical dispensaries once they started popping up instead of doing their job of going after illegal sources of drugs
Yeah this isn't going to go well for the DEA as they start attacking people out of their jurisdiction and fighting general public opinion. I just really can't fathom the mindset of the employees and leadership of the DEA besides "EVIL PLANT PROPAGANDA" and "Don't want to lose my job"
[t]http://static.tvtome.com/images/genie_images/story/2012_usa/b/boardwalk_vanalden.jpg[/t] this lady sounds quite a lot like this guy
You all do realize that the Chief is a woman right?
The war on drugs is profitable for everyone of course the DEA chief is going to say this.
the analogy still stands [editline]7th April 2014[/editline] the only reason why we'd never fully legalise drugs is the CIA makes like most of their black-ops budget dealing drugs, and im not one to jump on the evil empire bandwagon, but it is true the CIA does deal in drugs somehow [editline]7th April 2014[/editline] [quote]"This being a legacy for Eric Holder, when he looks back on it and sees the devastation it will have on this country, he will live to regret it," Wolf said. "He will wish he could get these years back." Wolf then asked Leonhart whether DEA agents have been feeling demoralized as a result of the legalization.[/quote] just your run of the mill anti-drug crusader spouting the usual "you are letting the devil into your heart and hearth" nonsense, kinda funny if the ATF was headed by the same kinda zealot then the NRA would be shitting themselves and the libertarians would be locking themselves in their bomb shelters hugging their guns like they were their children.
Concentrate on keeping the hard drugs out of our boarders instead.
And when marijuana finally does (and it will) become accepted by the mainstream, new, younger agents will succeed the current generation and have much different priorities. There's no way they'll win this. It's already a joke that they've wasted this much of our tax dollars imprisoning non-violent pot smokers.
Dissolve the DEA.
I've said it before and I'll say it now--We need to legalize all drugs, and abolish the DEA. It's the only way to win.
[QUOTE=SgtCr4zyGunz;44483567]Dissolve the DEA.[/QUOTE] Dissolve them... [I]in acid[/I]
Haha what a crock of shit, since Nixon declared drugs the #1 enemy 40 years ago it has been nothing but a leech on the taxpayers pocket and an inconvenience to those affected by it. Billions wasted, thousands of lives ruined, yet the DEA still can't (or won't) see that their "war" is a failure. Even before marijuana was legalized in Colorado and Washington it's been stated over and over again that the War on Drugs is a failure, and with more states considering legalizing it's going to be even [I]more[/I] pointless. Dissolve the DEA, fire Michele Leonhart (she's obviously incompetent or corrupt, or both), and reclassify all drugs by people who are actually competent and trustworthy. [quote]The global war on drugs has failed, with devastating consequences for individuals and societies around the world. Fifty years after the initiation of the UN Single Convention on Narcotic Drugs, and years after President Nixon launched the US government's war on drugs, fundamental reforms in national and global drug control policies are urgently needed.[/quote]
The problem with most drugs lies in the production and distribution. While marijuana itself may be relatively harmless to its users the criminal element is what brings in negative elements surrounding it. Legalization may be a partial solution but it's possible that the people who have been producing and distributing it illegally and making profits may not take kindly to the cropping up of legalized producers and distributors. I'm not advocating for or against it, just saying that legalization isn't necessarily a foolproof solution to stopping the criminal activity surrounding marijuana production and commerce.
[QUOTE=IGotWorms;44484034]The problem with most drugs lies in the production and distribution. While marijuana itself may be relatively harmless to its users the criminal element is what brings in negative elements surrounding it. Legalization may be a partial solution but it's possible that the people who have been producing and distributing it illegally and making profits may not take kindly to the cropping up of legalized producers and distributors. I'm not advocating for or against it, just saying that legalization isn't necessarily a foolproof solution to stopping the criminal activity surrounding marijuana production and commerce.[/QUOTE] Just like how all the bootleggers in the 1920's became legal alcohol sellers who were corrupt and controlled the syst- wait that isn't how history happened.
[QUOTE=Tureis;44483412]You all do realize that the Chief is a woman right?[/QUOTE] I also don't know why I'm getting dumbed. A lot of people were saying "he" and then edited their posts afterwords. [editline]7th April 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Killer900;44483712] Dissolve the DEA, fire Michele Leonhart (she's obviously incompetent or corrupt, or both), and reclassify all drugs by people who are actually competent and trustworthy.[/QUOTE] I'd consider the latter given there was an article earlier this year on the DEA allowing a cartel to move through for giving info on other cartels.
Ugh, I have recently had the unfortunate occasion to talk with a number of DEA agents and even their intel analysts. The intel guys were okay, but they only dealt with misdirection of prescription drugs. The field agents though, holy crap, they are fucking zealots. Like I figured they might dislike a lot of the marijuana laws personally too, but nooooo, these guys clearly took it to heart. They are all terrified of the cartel coming north of the border if we legalize it. They have it deep in their mind that somehow the cartel is as bad as a terrorist organization, and disregard and attempt to explain that the mentality of a cartel member is very different than that of a religious zealot. Cartels are corporations. Ruin their profit and they leave or fall apart. They make kick and scream for a minute, but without cash flow, nobody is going to serve them. Cartels would continue to exist for gun trafficking, more illicit drugs, and human trafficking, but a huge chunk of their profit would be gone. If they were to step up their activities north of the border, I doubt it would take long for the US military to be redirected. We are a vengeful sort. But no. The DEA guys are terrified of cartel members. Biggest bunch of losers I've ever had to deal with.
Considering these peoples jobs rely on our War on Drugs... it's easy to see why they'd oppose it. Less money in their pockets, and most likely their careers.
Shut the fuck up DEA, you were caught [URL="http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1348383"]arming and financing the Sinaloa cartel and giving them free reign to do what they want[/URL], so don't even fucking try to bring up the cartels as an argument against legalising marijuana.
[QUOTE=Killer900;44483712]Haha what a crock of shit, since Nixon declared drugs the #1 enemy 40 years ago it has been nothing but a leech on the taxpayers pocket and an inconvenience to those affected by it. Billions wasted, thousands of lives ruined, yet the DEA still can't (or won't) see that their "war" is a failure. Even before marijuana was legalized in Colorado and Washington it's been stated over and over again that the War on Drugs is a failure, and with more states considering legalizing it's going to be even [I]more[/I] pointless. Dissolve the DEA, fire Michele Leonhart (she's obviously incompetent or corrupt, or both), and reclassify all drugs by people who are actually competent and trustworthy.[/QUOTE] It doesn't matter how many states legalize it. Federal Government says its illegal, and eventually someone's going to get charged with it under federal laws and its going to go to the Supreme Court who are going to decide that the best way to fuck people over is to keep it illegal.
how do you wage war on a plant is my question
[QUOTE=Moose;44484559]how do you wage war on a plant is my question[/QUOTE] burn it with fire
but then you'd get high and lose the war
[QUOTE=GunFox;44484123]Ugh, I have recently had the unfortunate occasion to talk with a number of DEA agents and even their intel analysts. The intel guys were okay, but they only dealt with misdirection of prescription drugs. The field agents though, holy crap, they are fucking zealots. Like I figured they might dislike a lot of the marijuana laws personally too, but nooooo, these guys clearly took it to heart. They are all terrified of the cartel coming north of the border if we legalize it. They have it deep in their mind that somehow the cartel is as bad as a terrorist organization, and disregard and attempt to explain that the mentality of a cartel member is very different than that of a religious zealot. Cartels are corporations. Ruin their profit and they leave or fall apart. They make kick and scream for a minute, but without cash flow, nobody is going to serve them. Cartels would continue to exist for gun trafficking, more illicit drugs, and human trafficking, but a huge chunk of their profit would be gone. If they were to step up their activities north of the border, I doubt it would take long for the US military to be redirected. We are a vengeful sort. But no. The DEA guys are terrified of cartel members. Biggest bunch of losers I've ever had to deal with.[/QUOTE] i disagree with the idea of the cartels being like corporations. many of them have family histories, initiations and all that kinda weird gang shit. it's not just money that holds them together. + some of those cartels actually are religious zealots lol (templar cartel were they called?)
[QUOTE=Lachz0r;44484656]i disagree with the idea of the cartels being like corporations. many of them have family histories, initiations and all that kinda weird gang shit. it's not just money that holds them together. + some of those cartels actually are religious zealots lol (templar cartel were they called?)[/QUOTE] Knights Templar. Also, while money isn't entirely what holds them together, it is what drives them.
The more I read about this organisation the more I think it's run by the idiots.
[QUOTE=Tureis;44484805]Knights Templar. Also, while money isn't entirely what holds them together, it is what drives them.[/QUOTE] yeah i agree and i think legalization would be a huge step towards finally dismantling them but i'm just saying they're not comparable to a corporation at all
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