• Motorola Wins Europe-Wide Sales Ban Against iOS Devices
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[release]Apple just found itself on the receiving-end of some legal hurt. Motorola has successfully sued Apple in Germany, paving the way for a Europe-wise sales ban on basically all iOS devices. Better get those Apple stocking stuffers like nowish. Motorola Mobility has won its first of two patent-infringement cases against Apple, both of which were filed back in April. This grants them an injunction against all of the products which infringe. No big deal, that only includes the iPhone, iPhone 3G, iPhone 3GS, iPhone 4, the original iPad 3G and iPad 2 3G. Oh damn. And if you're feeling smug because you didn't see the iPhone 4S in there, that's only because the lawsuit was filed back in April, but it's a pretty safe bet that the 4S includes the offending technology, too. Needless to say, this is potentially a major blow to Apple. The patent in question relates to core cellular technology and is described in the court document as "method for performing a countdown function during a mobile-originated transfer for a packet radio system". If the ruling is upheld, Apple must either remove this technology from their devices or pay a hefty licensing fee. There is also a question of payment for past infringement. Motorola Mobility must now decide whether or not they will enforce this ban immediately. Naturally, Apple is going to appeal the case, but the injunction is already enforceable. If Moto opts to do so, they must cough up a $134 million bond, in case the verdict is overturned in appeal. Apple wanted the bond set at $2.7 billion citing the massive losses it would take, but here, too, the judge sided with Moto. It seems that Apple is suddenly getting a taste of its own medicine after the whole Apple v. Samsung thing in Australia (and Europe, and the US). By the time all this shakes out the only tablets left on shelves will be refurbished Etch-a-Sketches. [/release] [url=http://gizmodo.com/5866646/motorola-wins-europe+wide-sales-ban-against-ios-devices]Source[/url]
Hahaha, had it coming you fuckers.
Maybe now they'll try making new innovative products instead of suing everyone... Right?
[QUOTE=Chickens!;33642314]Maybe now they'll try making new innovative products instead of suing everyone... Right?[/QUOTE] Chance about as fat as much as thickness of device is part of their design.
As dumb as this is, it's very amusing to watch Apple get hit with their own tactics. Maybe they should just make their phones and tablets fatter and more cluttered.
Irony hits Apple
You're all so fucking misinformed. It wasn't Apple that started this shit, Nokia did. [url]http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/8321058.stm[/url]
[QUOTE=Jelly;33642376]You're all so fucking misinformed. It wasn't Apple that started this shit, Nokia did. [url]http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/8321058.stm[/url][/QUOTE] who gives a fuck who started it, apple continued it to the point of absolute hypocrisy and idiocy.
It's not like Apple continued it... It's more like every company continued it. :D
[QUOTE=Protocol7;33642384]who gives a fuck who started it, apple continued it to the point of absolute hypocrisy and idiocy.[/QUOTE] Apple did exactly what all the other companies did. For some stupid reason Facepunch as a collective whole seems to have this idea that everything Apple does is wrong even if another company did the same.
[QUOTE=Protocol7;33642384]who gives a fuck who started it, apple continued it to the point of absolute hypocrisy and idiocy.[/QUOTE]"I may have beaten him with a chair, but he pushed me in to the wall first so its not my fault!" There is a reason "He started it!" didn't work as a kid. However, if someone still is a kid, that concept may be falling on deaf ears.
Motor gets to decide? They won't go through, they will fear criticsm. Sucks too, Apple is low enough to do this shit, they go unpunished, and the media and public love them. If Moto does the ban, the media will declare war and everyone will hate Moto and Google. I hate how no matter how much bs Apple does, every blog, Tv station, celebrity, and teen will worship Apple.
At this point Germany will have no phones or tablets left on sale, they would all be banned...
This reminds me... [IMG]http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4128/5061246255_45a015568b.jpg[/IMG] I think this picture was made sometime last year.
[QUOTE=Jelly;33642376]You're all so fucking misinformed. It wasn't Apple that started this shit, Nokrandsia did. [url]http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/8321058.stm[/url][/QUOTE] I don't get why you defend Apple in every thread. Facepunch doesn't love MS or whatever, heck we tend to not care about about brands, just don'tlike Apple. And you're delusional if you think it's only FP and not the whole Internet and it's culture that dislikes Apple.
Motorola [B]INVENTED[/B] the mobile phone, so this is perfectly reasonable.
[QUOTE=The Baconator;33642478]I don't get why you defend Apple in every thread. Facepunch doesn't love MS or whatever, heck we tend to not care about about brands, just don'tlike Apple. And you're delusional if you think it's only FP and not the whole Internet and it's culture that dislikes Apple.[/QUOTE] I far from post in every Apple related thread, last I did was a week ago and previous to that it was quite a while. I also have no clue how you seem to have the coherent ability to be able to judge the internet in it's massive size and opinions as a whole.
[QUOTE=The Baconator;33642478]I don't get why you defend Apple in every thread. Facepunch doesn't love MS or whatever, heck we tend to not care about about brands, just don'tlike Apple. And you're delusional if you think it's only FP and not the whole Internet and it's culture that dislikes Apple.[/QUOTE] you're an idiot
Apple wasn't the one who started this whole mess of a patent war, but it's nice to see them getting a taste of their own medicine after all the lawsuits against Samsung.
[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;33642403]"I may have beaten him with a chair, but he pushed me in to the wall first so its not my fault!" There is a reason "He started it!" didn't work as a kid. However, if someone still is a kid, that concept may be falling on deaf ears.[/QUOTE] exactly, just because someone else did it first doesn't mean if you do it repeatedly, it makes it any better it's even worse with Apple because they were clearly trying to get serious competition off the market using falsified information and broad patents seriously, how do you make a tablet without "a rectangular shape and rounded edges" any other company would act on their patents being violated, yes, but if you patents are general bullshit used to throw competition out of the market, then wtf [editline]9th December 2011[/editline] I guess what I'm trying to say is that it doesn't matter who started it. Apple abused extremely broad patents to attempt to curb competition. Motorola is enforcing a patent on 3G-radio enabled devices because of technology that they own, rather than complaining that a competing product is encroaching on the "look and feel" of their products. In all reality, how different can a rectangle with glass on the front differ in terms of "look and feel?"
I think the real issue here is that the patent system allows such bullshit through. Such as Protocol7's example of "a rectangular shape and rounded edges." Since when was generic geometry new and innovative, and worthy of a patent? I could have sworn patents were to protect [b]new innovations[/b]. I think I remember reading a while back that someone was actually able to get a patent through for the wheel, because no one else had claimed it yet. Not sure on that, though, but it comes to mind. So, while Apple is unjustifiably abusing the patent system, the system itself is equally at fault by allowing it to be abused to such an extent. A reform of the patent system would solve a lot of these bullshit lawsuits deriving from bullshit patents on bullshit things. Also bullshit. [editline]fish[/editline] Thought I read about that. [url=http://edition.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/asiapcf/auspac/07/02/australia.wheel/]CNN - Man Seeks Square Deal, Patents the Wheel[/url]. Granted, that was in Australia and apparently that particular patent doesn't mean much of anything, but still.
Well they deserved it. Finally. I hope this wakes up Apple to stop seeing everyone... And make something useful... Right....?
Sure, Apple takes a hit, but what about the many, many people who actually [i]want[/i] iOS devices? I guess they're just screwed. Woohoo! Go legal system, I guess.
I seriously can't wait till the government steps in and stops this. All of these patent wars as a whole are ridiculous, it's killing new-comers in markets as well as they do not hold enough bullshit patents to protect themselves.
[QUOTE=Regulas021;33643548]Sure, Apple takes a hit, but what about the many, many people who actually [i]want[/i] iOS devices? I guess they're just screwed. Woohoo! Go legal system, I guess.[/QUOTE] They only have Apple to blame. That's what Apple gets. Sorry, if a company fucks up they should get the heat. Moto is doing what's in their best interest, Apple has to learn to compete, the hard way.
Is this trusted source?
Ho Ho Ho-ly shit.
[QUOTE=Careld;33643685]Is this trusted source?[/QUOTE] Gizmodo are a bunch of Apple worshipping fanatics, so if they are reporting something this severe it has to be true.
Sales ban? In all of Europe? Forever? Lol. For Apple to cover the loss, they will have to expand even more into Asia and Africa :v:
This whole patent war is fucking stupid as hell. Yeah, you might argue apple deserves it for being a bunch of legal crybabies, but it's fucking stupid, at the end it's the costumers who get screwed because they can't get the phone they want. Oh, Samsung copied the way the phone shows a background when a webpage gets scrolled past its limits, better sue them and ban sales all over the world.
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