• Panel: Sandy Hook should be torn down
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[quote]Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn., where a gunman killed 20 children and six adults in December, should be torn down and replaced with an entirely new school, the task force charged with determining its future decided Friday night. The 28 members of the Sandy Hook Elementary Building Task Force, voting unanimously, rejected alternatives under which the current school would have been be renovated or a new school would have been built at a new location, NBC Connecticut of Hartford reported. Voters must approve the plan before it can go into effect. Three weeks after the Dec. 14 shooting, pupils returned to classes at a former middle school seven miles from Sandy Hook. Relatives of victims of the shootings and other parents remain vehemently opposed to renovating and reopening the existing school.[/quote] source: [url]http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/05/10/18179828-task-force-recommends-building-new-school-at-site-of-sandy-hook-massacre?lite[/url]
Whatever happened to the idea that we should continue with regular life and not give terrorists the attention they crave after an attack? [QUOTE]"I will chain my body to it and to protest if they try to reopen it," said Erica Lafferty, daughter of Dawn Hochsprung, the school's principal, who was among those killed[/QUOTE] I'm not sure on what I should think of this.
terrorists win
Conspiracy theorists in 3...2...1...
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;40601142]Whatever happened to the idea that we should continue with regular life and not give terrorists the attention they crave after an attack?[/QUOTE] A lunatic with a gun isn't a terrorist, he's a lunatic with a gun. Also I would find it quite hard myself to return year after year to the same place where your former students and colleagues were gunned down.
It was a lunatic, not a terrorist, what the hell are you talking about? And how does this equate to giving them attention or them "winning"?
God, just reopen it
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;40601142]Whatever happened to the idea that we should continue with regular life and not give terrorists the attention they crave after an attack?[/QUOTE] Please. They're already selling out on "Sandy Hook Killer is a Rotten Bastard" t-shirts and mugs. He'd have his own bobblehead if he killed a few more people.
They must destroy the evidence
What a waste of money
[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;40601168]It was a lunatic, not a terrorist, what the hell are you talking about? And how does this equate to giving them attention or them "winning"?[/QUOTE] A simple mistake of words on an internet comment. Terrorists always end up turning out to be lunatics and lunatics are prone to becoming terrorists. Adam Lanza did these attacks for attention and thats what he's getting from this.
Yeah, why are you guys bringing up terrorists? Also, I don't think people remote to the trauma should be able to voice our opinion over someone who might get PTSD from returning to the school. Their issues triumph over everyone elses IMO. Sorta like having a group of men vote on contraception/abortion. EDIT: I think you guys inferred I meant 'shut the school down'. What I meant was that it's not right to ask people not affected by it to vote on it. I think it's an issue mostly for those right at Newtown. Also, a thought on my mind: If you there was a teacher who returned to the old school, thinking you dealt with the trauma but actually didn't. Doesn't it seem wrong to put a price on someone's sanity? (Meaning if the decision is made off the amount of money saved, doesn't that seem kinda fucked up?)
It's understandable that people who work there are reminded of the event and don't want to be there, but building a whole new school solely due to the shooting would be just as bad, like commemorating the shooter with a new school.
[QUOTE=nox;40601241]It's understandable that people who work there are reminded of the event and don't want to be there, but building a whole new school solely due to the shooting would be just as bad, like commemorating the shooter with a new school.[/QUOTE] Including the fact that it comes with a 59 million price tag.
[QUOTE=DoctorSalt;40601219]Yeah, why are you guys bringing up terrorists? Also, you have zero place to voice your opinion over someone who might get PTSD from returning to the school. Their issues triumph over everyone elses IMO[/QUOTE] If there's like a majority of people who experienced the event who don't want it to reopen, then yeah, sure, we'll not do it. Remember how annoying it is when a bill we all want to pass really bad is stopped by 2 people over a large majority in the Senate?
its not like the ghost of lanza is haunting the school. this is stupid.
I hope we don't start doing this everytime something bad happens. The school is a school. It is a place. It is inert. If it's particularly bad, change the name and renovate it. No need to tear down a perfectly good building.
[QUOTE=DoctorSalt;40601219]Yeah, why are you guys bringing up terrorists? Also, you have zero place to voice your opinion over someone who might get PTSD from returning to the school. Their issues triumph over everyone elses IMO[/QUOTE] It isn't that. Not for me, at least. It's that everything related to Sandy Hook has to be a news story. It's popular material. [I]And that's why people keep shooting up schools.[/I] You're a depressed homicidal suicidal psychopath. Well don't just hang yourself, go blow up a hospital or something. We'll make sure that for the next six months everyone in the country knows everything about you. Everyone will suddenly care about you, they'll make fucking hats with your name on them. We'll give you a nickname that every household will know, and for a brief moment, people will know you exist. And not only that, but you'll get all the revenge you ever wanted. All it costs you time wise is however long it takes for you to get a gun and walk to the closest gathering of people. What else could a depressed maniac even ask for?
[QUOTE=YouWithTheFace.;40601269]its not like the ghost of lanza is haunting the school. this is stupid.[/QUOTE] No, but it is an eerie thought to think that you're in a room where 20 children and some of your co-workers were killed. I liked what the Aurora theatre did after their shooting, they renovated the place (and renamed it?) and tried giving it a fresh start. Renovation is a good option.
[QUOTE=RIPBILLYMAYS;40601303]No, but it is an eerie thought to think that you're in a room where 20 children and some of your co-workers were killed.[/QUOTE] yea thats totally an objective thing you got right there
[QUOTE=YouWithTheFace.;40601269]its not like the ghost of lanza is haunting the school. this is stupid.[/QUOTE] Or is he?... Don't all haunted places start out because of tragic and grim stuff like that happening?
[QUOTE=dass;40601322]Don't all haunted places start out because of tragic and grim stuff like that happening?[/QUOTE] they start out for a quick buck
[QUOTE=Corporal Yippie;40601311]yea thats totally an objective thing you got right there[/QUOTE] Really? That doesn't makes you raise an eyebrow?
[QUOTE=dass;40601322]Or is he?... Don't all haunted places start out because of tragic and grim stuff like that happening?[/QUOTE] Well, mostly bored History Channel video editors who got their hands on some good ghost images.
[QUOTE=DoctorSalt;40601219]Yeah, why are you guys bringing up terrorists? Also, you have zero place to voice your opinion over someone who might get PTSD from returning to the school. Their issues triumph over everyone elses IMO[/QUOTE] How about this; reopen the school, if any of the previous staff or students don't wish to return, they can go someplace else. It's a complete waste of money to destroy a perfectly good building because something bad happened there. Or heck, just sell it off and build a new school someplace else with the money.
what's the fucking point? there's giving respect to the deceased and then there's wasting resources closing down a perfectly fine school.
[QUOTE=Corporal Yippie;40601337]they start out for a quick buck[/QUOTE] despite lots of supposedly haunted places not really requiring you to pay and having several sightings of "things that shouldn't happen that started happening"
So if another building is built on the same site it wouldn't even make a difference, as you'd still be standing on the plot of ground where it happened. Just another example of someone using a tragedy to push their own agendas.
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;40601201]A simple mistake of words on an internet comment. Terrorists always end up turning out to be lunatics and lunatics are prone to becoming terrorists. Adam Lanza did these attacks for attention and thats what he's getting from this.[/QUOTE] This is objectively wrong, though. most terrorists are actually very intelligent and very few are mentally unstable. It's just a common misconception to rationalize extremism, but it's an incorrect one that is dangerous to make. Read about it yourself, if you want. [I]Terrorism in the 21st Century[/I] by Cynthia Combs.
[QUOTE='[Seed Eater];40601368']This is objectively wrong, though. most terrorists are actually very intelligent and very few are mentally unstable. It's just a common misconception to rationalize extremism, but it's an incorrect one that is dangerous to make. Read about it yourself, if you want. [I]Terrorism in the 21st Century[/I] by Cynthia Combs.[/QUOTE] no see you use the word objective when making fun of idiots, not when actually (failing) to prove a point
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