• Should Smoking Trigger an R Rating?
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[URL]http://news.health.com/2012/07/09/smoking-movies-r-rating/[/URL] [QUOTE]MONDAY, July 9, 2012 (Health.com) — Movies that show actors smoking tobacco should automatically earn an R rating in order to minimize copycat smoking among impressionable tweens and teenagers, the authors of a new study suggest. PG-13 films account for nearly two-thirds of the smoking scenes adolescents see on the big screen, according to the two-year study, which surveyed roughly 5,000 children ages 10 to 14 about the movies they’d seen and whether they’d ever tried a cigarette. Smoking in PG-13 films—including background shots and other passing instances—was just as strongly linked with real-world experimentation as the smoking in R-rated films. For every 500 smoking scenes a child saw in PG-13 movies, his or her likelihood of trying cigarettes increased by 49%. The comparable figure for R-rated movies was 33%, a statistically negligible difference. Assigning an R rating to all movies portraying smoking would lower the proportion of kids who try cigarettes at this age by 18%, the authors estimate. (Children under 17 must be accompanied by an adult to buy a ticket for an R-rated movie.) “The movie industry [should] treat smoking like it treats profanity and sex and violence,” says lead author James D. Sargent, M.D., a cancer- prevention specialist and professor of pediatrics at Dartmouth Medical School, in Lebanon, N.H. “If saying the ‘F’ word twice gets you an R rating, certainly something as important as smoking should get you an R rating.” The study, which appears in the August issue of the journal [I]Pediatrics[/I], was designed in part to refute the notion that it’s difficult to untangle movie smoking from the many other situations, both on-screen and off, that may contribute to adolescent impulses. Sargent and his colleagues can’t prove from this study alone that movies incite kids to smoke. But they did zero in on movies by controlling for a wide range of extenuating factors, including race, household income, school performance, parenting styles, smoking among friends and family members, and even personality traits such as rebelliousness. “This is a compelling study that adds to the existing research and leads us to one unequivocal conclusion, and that is that smoking in movies should result in an R rating,” says Michael C. Fiore, M.D., director of the University of Wisconsin Center for Tobacco Research, in Madison. Fiore was not involved in the study. The Motion Picture Association of America (MPAA), a trade organization that assigns ratings to movies released in the United States, said in a statement that the movie industry seeks to balance the “serious health problem” of teen smoking against “freedom of expression and speech and storytelling.” Since 2007, the MPAA has included smoking among its key ratings criteria, along with language, sex, violence, and drug use. According to the association, film raters consider smoking in this broader context, and they also consider how frequent, glamorized, or historically relevant it is (as in period pieces, for instance). “The rating system does not tell filmmakers what to put in their films; it merely gives information about the level of content in each film and describes the elements that reach the level of the rating, so that parents can make choices for their children,” said Howard Gantman, the MPAA’s vice president of corporate communications. Of the 3,140 films that received a rating between May 2007 and March 2011, 54% contained at least one instance of smoking, according to MPAA statistics. [/QUOTE] No, fuck you. Just because a movie has a little smoking does not mean that it should be rated R. As much as I think ratings are bullshit, parents are going to flip shit over perfectly decent movies because someone decides to light one up.
Any movie with a child in it should be R rated because they're the result of a long night of sex. Hop to it, Disney.
Then every TV show that depicts smoking gets an MA rating. Overreact, much?
If watching people smoke on television causes people to smoke then playing violent video games causes people to be violent.
how about no because that's dumb the penalization on curse words is trivial enough
Have parents lost the will to raise their kids these days?
[QUOTE=Stonecycle;36715676]Have parents lost the will to raise their kids these days?[/QUOTE] Yes.
Do that and make any instances of Alcohol or weed or any hint of drug references an auto-MA/R There's no reason to do this, smoking is bad yes but have we completely lost self control, do we need these stupid insta-high rating rules? So now, smoking shouldn't bump the rating or carry caution warnings, every movie I've watched where smoking is involved is to fit in with the character, they're not encouraging people to smoke it just fits with the character - like in fight club with the woman smoking or if we want to take it in video game context with the Spy having a cigarette in his mouth.
Do these people no realize the taboo fuels drug use of all forms far more than exposure to the concept?
I bet kids will smoke more because the adults in the adult rated film do it. It's pathetic that parents think that the movie industry should raise their kids for them. Same with them and fucking everything nowadays. it's always someone else's fault that their kid grew up stupid.
Duh we don't want people to get lung cancer from not being warned ahead of time that their french independent films are filled with second hand smoke.
[QUOTE=Forumaster;36715631]Then every TV show that depicts smoking gets an MA rating. Overreact, much?[/QUOTE] Remember those old Tom and Jerry cartoons (or any classic cartoon back then) and people didn't really give a shit if Tom was smoking from a pipe?
[QUOTE=RockmanYoshi;36716330]Remember those old Tom and Jerry cartoons (or any classic cartoon back then) and people didn't really give a shit if Tom was smoking from a pipe?[/QUOTE] [IMG]http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m687vedsnj1qaetpoo1_500.gif[/IMG] Smoking [I]AND[/I] irresponsible gun use!
[QUOTE=Forumaster;36716737][IMG]http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m687vedsnj1qaetpoo1_500.gif[/IMG] Smoking [I]AND[/I] irresponsible gun use![/QUOTE] jesus christ he never exhales
I think this would put Mad Men on the level of pornography.
[QUOTE=Lankist;36716769]jesus christ he never exhales[/QUOTE] You don't need to exhale when you're in [i]flavor country[/i].
Doesn't matter to me if they want to rate it R, it hardly means jack shit these days. If the 15 year old kid can't buy a ticket into an R rated film he'll be a ticket to a PG-13 and walk into the R.
[QUOTE=Forumaster;36716737][IMG]http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m687vedsnj1qaetpoo1_500.gif[/IMG] Smoking [I]AND[/I] irresponsible gun use![/QUOTE] and Animal abuse.
Y'know, it's a bit of an-eye opener to go back and see the differences between how the rating system worked in the past and how it's working now. I mean go and watch [I]Who Framed Roger Rabbit[/I] again, while keeping in mind the whole time that it's rated PG. Holy shitcocks.
[QUOTE=UncleJimmema;36717085]Doesn't matter to me if they want to rate it R, it hardly means jack shit these days. If the 15 year old kid can't buy a ticket into an R rated film he'll be a ticket to a PG-13 and walk into the R.[/QUOTE] Where they'll be kicked out. That's why there're ushers.
[QUOTE=LegndNikko;36717557]Where they'll be kicked out. That's why there're ushers.[/QUOTE] I've heard of ushers, but never in my life have I seen an usher.
I totally agree. Also, showing food in movies should get an automatic NC-17 rating, because food makes you poop, which could lead to a more-than-passing interest in scatplay. Other things that should lead to an automatic R: Sports mascots (closet furries, the lot of them) Jorts Trains going into tunnels Small dogs Oversized hats Small dogs in oversized hats Sarah Jessica Parker Jackhammers Burritos Robin Williams' arm hair Wilford Brimley's eyebrows and Kevin Bacon.
[QUOTE=LegndNikko;36717557]Where they'll be kicked out. That's why there're ushers.[/QUOTE] Ahaha are you serious? Those people never actually kick people out unless they're being obnoxious.
[QUOTE=Pennywise;36717437]Y'know, it's a bit of an-eye opener to go back and see the differences between how the rating system worked in the past and how it's working now. I mean go and watch [I]Who Framed Roger Rabbit[/I] again, while keeping in mind the whole time that it's rated PG. Holy shitcocks.[/QUOTE] Because recent society is based entirely on fear.
Better ban violence in films as well, don't want those impressionable tweens and teenagers throttling each other.
[QUOTE=RichyZ;36717752]ban smoking ban the letter r [editline]11th July 2012[/editline] how the fuck does a cat even smoke a cigar i dont even[/QUOTE] That's not a cigar, that's a rolled cigarette
No. But I don't think Sex should trigger a R rating, so perhaps I'm in the minority.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;36717622]I've heard of ushers, but never in my life have I seen an usher.[/QUOTE] [IMG]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cb/Usherraymond_(300dpi).jpg/400px-Usherraymond_(300dpi).jpg[/IMG] Someone would like a word with you.
[QUOTE=Lankist;36716769]jesus christ he never exhales[/QUOTE] And the box of tobacco just disappears in his hand.
Adult Themes.
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