Article 50 could be triggered in January or February
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Earlier than most thought and looks like it's definitely happening.
[url]http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/sep/16/theresa-may-likely-trigger-article-50-brexit-talks-early-2017[/url]
[url]http://metro.co.uk/2016/09/16/brexit-to-formally-begin-in-january-according-to-european-council-president-6133365/[/url]
Well... fuck.
Finally.
[QUOTE=Boilrig;51064142]Finally.[/QUOTE]
your fantasies are moronic tbh
[QUOTE=Boilrig;51064142]Finally.[/QUOTE]
Isn't it wonderful when we cant even spare a moment for thinking about the people who Brexit negatively affected. You got what you wanted and that's all that matters, I suppose.
[QUOTE=Saturn V;51064150]your fantasies are moronic tbh[/QUOTE]
It isn't a fantasy though.
[QUOTE=Zonesylvania;51064154]Isn't it wonderful when we cant even spare a moment for thinking about the people who Brexit negatively affected. You got what you wanted and that's all that matters, I suppose.[/QUOTE]
what does he even gain from this lol he doesnt even live in the uk
[QUOTE=Saturn V;51064166]what does he even gain from this lol he doesnt even live in the uk[/QUOTE]
Something something sovereignty he's happy the Brits took their country back from the evil EU
[QUOTE=Anderan;51064180]Something something sovereignty he's happy the Brits took their country back from the evil EU[/QUOTE]
What's even weirder is that Australia was one of the biggest sufferers thanks to Brexit
they lost 30 billion in stock cap when the announcement hit and the AUD took a hammering
Whether or not you agree with the Brexit the predicted economical backlash isn't going how the experts predicted, yet.
[url]http://graphics.wsj.com/uk-watch/[/url]
[QUOTE=karlosfandango;51064210]Whether or not you agree with the Brexit the predicted economical backlash isn't going how the experts predicted, yet.
[url]http://graphics.wsj.com/uk-watch/[/url][/QUOTE]
Because it hasn't been triggered yet, and lots of people thought it never would be.
Look at the immediate reaction after the vote, that will happen all over again if it's actually triggered.
Brexit made england so bad i emigrated to poland
[QUOTE=Boilrig;51064142]Finally.[/QUOTE]
I agree, and I'm entirely anti-brexit. Leaving the EU was the dumbest decision any western country has made since the Iraq War. But I'm happy they're pushing through with the big ol' 50. They decided to leave, and they should bloody fuckin' well follow through with it instead of pussyfooting around for long enough to everyone to forget it. England wanted out; England gets out. They can enjoy their economic and social disaster on their own terms, now. As we tend to say with police shootings, 'play stupid games, win stupid prizes'.
[QUOTE=Riller;51064278]England wanted out; England gets out[/QUOTE]
what about scotland for example lol
god damn brexit is the most retarded thing to have happened this year
[QUOTE=Saturn V;51064304]what about scotland for example lol
god damn brexit is the most retarded thing to have happened this year[/QUOTE]
Best case, Scotland leaves the UK and stays in EU, as they should have done back in '14. Worst case, I'll feel real fucking sorry for all the people in Scotland (and for that matter, all the remain-voters in the rest of the union) who were caught in the crossfire of blithering idiots voting with their dicks in their ears, but sad as it is, they didn't manage mobilize the numbers it required to stop this shitshow. That doesn't change that the United Kingdom has decided to leave the European Union, and that they should follow through with it.
[QUOTE=Riller;51064309]Best case, Scotland leaves the UK and stays in EU, as they should have done back in '14. Worst case, I'll feel real fucking sorry for all the people in Scotland (and for that matter, all the remain-voters in the rest of the union) who were caught in the crossfire of blithering idiots voting with their dicks in their ears, but sad as it is, they didn't manage mobilize the numbers it required to stop this shitshow. That doesn't change that the United Kingdom has decided to leave the European Union, and that they should follow through with it.[/QUOTE]
What about the 48% of England who didn't want out? Why don't you feel sorry for us?
[B]Fuck.[/B]
[QUOTE=Zonesylvania;51064185]What's even weirder is that Australia was one of the biggest sufferers thanks to Brexit
they lost 30 billion in stock cap when the announcement hit and the AUD took a hammering[/QUOTE]
30bn in market cap is basically fuck all
[QUOTE=Chains!;51064314]What about the 48% of England who didn't want out? Why don't you feel sorry for us?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE](and for that matter, all the remain-voters in the rest of the union)[/QUOTE]
Reading is hard. I was asked about Scotland, I answered a question about Scotland and still included other remain-voters. Shoutout to Northern-Ireland, by the way, since we're here.
[QUOTE=Riller;51064319]Reading is hard. I was asked about Scotland, I answered a question about Scotland and still included other remain-voters. Shoutout to Northern-Ireland, by the way, since we're here.[/QUOTE]
[quote](rest of the union)[/quote]
You highlighted countries affected by England voting leave, then said rest of union. So I read that as Wales and Northern Ireland.
[QUOTE=Chains!;51064314]What about the 48% of England who didn't want out? Why don't you feel sorry for us?[/QUOTE]
He mentioned you if you read properly, not personally.
[editline]17th September 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=Trebgarta;51064323]What is London gonna do? Northern Ireland?
England and Wales want out.
[editline]17th September 2016[/editline]
Why should they follow through with it?
The referendum is not legally binding. Theresa May should commit career suicide and do nothing.
This is the best case scenario for the people of the United Kingdom.[/QUOTE]
London isn't independant from the UK, it's a city.
[QUOTE=Zonesylvania;51064154]Isn't it wonderful when we cant even spare a moment for thinking about the people who Brexit negatively affected. You got what you wanted and that's all that matters, I suppose.[/QUOTE]
This is it. I've never seen a group of voters be so fucking smug about a result. I had to delete quite a few people from Facebook when they went full 'I told you so fuck the immigrants' after the vote and I was disgusted to call myself British for a few weeks; really ruined my summer trip. That wasn't because of the vote, but because of the sentiments behind it and the fact that the smug fuckbags rubbed everyone's face in it afterwards, while we were still fearful and genuinely upset - we were wondering where our Polish friends were going to stand, if they should even stay in the country given the racist attacks, and everything was uncertain, and the Leave voters showed not a hint of magnanimity. That's what's left a bad taste.
[QUOTE=karlosfandango;51064329]He mentioned you if you read properly, not personally.
[editline]17th September 2016[/editline]
London isn't independant from the UK, it's a city.[/QUOTE]
There are plenty of city states.
London can TOTALLY go it alone.
[QUOTE=Jon27;51064353]we were wondering where our Polish friends were going to stand, if they should even stay in the country given the racist attacks, and everything was uncertain, and the Leave voters showed not a hint of magnanimity. That's what's left a bad taste.[/QUOTE]
a lot of polish people are very afraid at the moment, not the least because brexit has flared up xenophobic sentiment (who would have guessed)
[QUOTE=jordguitar;51064354]There are plenty of city states.
London can TOTALLY go it alone.[/QUOTE]
Possibly, but this isn't relevant because it won't.
[QUOTE=Chains!;51064328]You highlighted countries affected by England voting leave, then said rest of union. So I read that as Wales and Northern Ireland.[/QUOTE]
But England is also part of the union and has remain-voters in it, though sadly a slight minority.
Anyway, I sort of typed all that up in a slightly pissy mindset after being over Brexit a thousand times with a thousand people, so let me just expand on the background of my standpoint.
The vote shouldn't ever have happened in the first place. Especially not when it's only about half that wants out. If it was 60-70% being consistently vocal about wishing to leave the EU over a longer period of time, then [I]maybe[/I] consider it. Putting it up for a referendum in the first place was an absolutely awful, stupid decision.
[I]If[/I] there were to have been a vote, it certainly shouldn't have been decided by a simple majority for such a huge part of running the country. 55% majority or 60% majority would be more reasonable, again, to reflect [I]broad[/I] dissent against the European Union.
The timing of the vote was absolutely awful, being put out just when everyone was shitting their pants because a larger-than-normal amount of brown people were approaching the borders, and immigration and xenophobia thus became a much larger player than what was reasonable.
The campaigns, both of them, were terribly run and ran entirely on voters on both sides being either ill-informed, uninformed or misinformed. No one without some serious prior knowledge about the role and effect of EU had a snowball's chance in hell of knowing what they were voting for, so it was basically blind guessing and party-lines you had to subscribe to.
The largely left-leaning remain voters, as it has been common in the western world lately, severely underestimated the size of the pissed off right-wing. It has consistently happened in every western election in the last three years, and left-leaning people have consistently been shocked about it happening. If the remain-voters were less convinced that 'this won't ever pass, it's a silly vote to appease the right', more would have turned up to vote remain. People who want things changed are much more motivated to change things than people who just want everything to stay are to keeping it the same.
So it was a shitshow from start to finish, bad decisions along every single bend of the road to where we are now, and since we are here, I'm glad to see the shitshow come to it's big, stinking, shit-spewing finale of a decision. Then it's over, and Europe can go on with it's life while the British isles sink slowly into the ocean, never to be seen again. Or whatever ends up happening, I guess.
"We don't want EU politicians to run the UK into the ground, so we'll do it ourselves!"
gj
I'm not big on politics, and I've been trying to look it up online. But I can't find a decent explanation that I undertand. :s:
But what does leaving the EU actually mean? What are the pros and cons, and the potential consequences?
A lot of people seem to imply the events will be catastrophic, but why is that?
[QUOTE=Saturn V;51064150]your fantasies are moronic tbh[/QUOTE]
Shut up.
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God I hope they'll leave EU [I]after[/I] I finish my education here in Scotland.
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