• Co-worker: Omar Mateen homophobic, 'unhinged'
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[QUOTE]A former Fort Pierce police officer who once worked with 29-year-old Omar Mateen, the assailant in an Orlando nightclub shooting that left at least 50 dead, said he was "unhinged and unstable."[/QUOTE] [QUOTE][B]Gilroy, a former Fort Pierce police officer, said Mateen frequently made homophobic and racial comments. Gilroy said he complained to his employer several times but it did nothing because he was Muslim. Gilroy quit after he said Mateen began stalking him via multiple text messages — 20 or 30 a day. He also sent Gilroy 13 to 15 phone messages a day, he said.[/B][/QUOTE] [QUOTE]"I quit because everything he said was toxic," Gilroy said Sunday, "and the company wouldn't do anything. This guy was unhinged and unstable. He talked of killing people." Gilroy said this shooting didn't come as a surprise to him.[/QUOTE] [URL="http://www.floridatoday.com/story/news/crime/2016/06/12/who-omar-mateen/85791280/"]http://www.floridatoday.com/story/news/crime/2016/06/12/who-omar-mateen/85791280/[/URL]
Sounds about right. It's a trend where people get the benefit of the doubt because they're a minority, despite showing tendencies of potentially violent and dangerous behavior. It's like they're too afraid of potential backlash from confronting someone because they're not white.
It's like that thing in the UK where Pakistanis had been sexually abusing children and no-one wanted to step up and stop it because they were afraid of being called racist.
In the end this kind of thinking will worsen the prejudices and paranoia.
[QUOTE=orgornot;50510096]It's like that thing in the UK where Pakistanis had been sexually abusing children and no-one wanted to step up and stop it because they were afraid of being called racist.[/QUOTE] I don't think that's what happened though. Weren't they just absolutely incompetent? [Quote]Casey's investigation found that the child sexual exploitation (CSE) team was poorly directed, suffered from excessive case loads, and did not share information.[/quote]
[QUOTE=Lalelalala;50510181]I don't think that's what happened though. Weren't they just absolutely incompetent?[/QUOTE] No man if ur a non white muslim you can rape as much as you wan.
[QUOTE=Lalelalala;50510181]I don't think that's what happened though. Weren't they just absolutely incompetent?[/QUOTE] A large number of politicians from both the left and right, as well as those within the council put it down to fear of racism being created from their exposure: [QUOTE]Members of the British-Pakistani Muslim community condemned both the sexual abuse and the fact that it had been covered up for fear of "giving oxygen" to racism.[8] The leader of Rotherham Borough Council, Roger Stone, resigned, as did the council's Chief Executive, Martin Kimber, and the director of children's services, Joyce Thacker. Shaun Wright, the Police and Crime Commissioner (PCC) for South Yorkshire who had been a Labour councillor in charge of child safety at the council, stood down on 16 September, after initially refusing demands that he should do so.[9] The Home Secretary, Theresa May, blamed the failure of the authorities in Rotherham on "institutionalised political correctness",[10] and Denis MacShane, the former MP for Rotherham during the period covered by the report, admitted that he had been "guilty of doing too little" to investigate the extent of the sex crimes being committed in his constituency.[11][/QUOTE] [QUOTE]Because most of the perpetrators were of Pakistani heritage, several council staff described themselves as being nervous about identifying the ethnic origins of perpetrators for fear of being thought racist; others, the report noted, "remembered clear direction from their managers" not to make such identification.[31] One Home Office researcher, attempting to raise concerns about the level of abuse with senior police officers in 2002, was told not to do so again, and was subsequently suspended and sidelined.[32] The researcher told BBC Panorama that: ... she had been accused of being insensitive when she told one official that most of the perpetrators were from Rotherham's Pakistani community. A female colleague talked to her about the incident. "She said you must never refer to that again – you must never refer to Asian men." "And her other response was to book me on a two-day ethnicity and diversity course to raise my awareness of ethnic issues."[17][/QUOTE] [editline]13th June 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Swebonny;50510201]No man if ur a non white muslim you can rape as much as you wan.[/QUOTE] How about you get a bit of knowledge about the case before making shitty bannable posts like this. Of course it is more complicated than that, but you clearly know nothing.
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[QUOTE=Lalelalala;50510181]I don't think that's what happened though. Weren't they just absolutely incompetent?[/QUOTE] Ever heard of multiple causes?
[QUOTE=Lalelalala;50510181]I don't think that's what happened though. Weren't they just absolutely incompetent?[/QUOTE] Yes of course, incompetence, which included fear by some to be labeled racist. But that was only a handful of people, in the end the still got convicted. But of course the FP rightwing shills will just pin it on ethnicity and religion. Fucking tiresome.
[QUOTE=FlashMarsh;50510215]A large number of politicians from both the left and right, as well as those within the council put it down to fear of racism being created from their exposure: [/QUOTE] Pretty horrific that fear of being accused of discrimination lead to this. The police shouldn't discriminate but that shouldn't stop them from doing their job. That disaster has been used as a case study for anti-muslim people countless times now, so ultimately them ignoring it only made things worse for muslims.
[QUOTE=FlashMarsh;50510215]A large number of politicians from both the left and right, as well as those within the council put it down to fear of racism being created from their exposure: [editline]13th June 2016[/editline] How about you get a bit of knowledge about the case before making shitty bannable posts like this. Of course it is more complicated than that, but you clearly know nothing.[/QUOTE] Good fucking job, you know how to cite Wikipedia.
[QUOTE=Swebonny;50510316]Good fucking job, you know how to cite Wikipedia.[/QUOTE] Oh, should I have written an essay instead to refute your bizarre claims which can be disproved in a couple of google searches? Good to know that a moderator can get away with shitposting though. Thanks for also calling me an 'FP right-wing shill'. I think I have fairly nuanced views when it comes to terrorism and extremism, if you want to read them, but I guess that you hold anyone broadly on the right in contempt as is clear from your posts.
And I guess you're fucking stupid. [editline]13th June 2016[/editline] go on write ur fucking essay. i wanna read [highlight](User was banned for this post ("FLAMING" - Orkel))[/highlight] [highlight](User was banned for this post ("brb" - Swebonny))[/highlight]
Erm [quote]Gilroy, a former Fort Pierce police officer, said Mateen frequently made homophobic and racial comments. Gilroy said he complained to his employer several times but it did nothing because he was Muslim. [/quote] [quote]"I quit because everything he said was toxic," Gilroy said Sunday, "and the company wouldn't do anything. This guy was unhinged and unstable. He talked of killing people."[/quote] Excuse my doubt but where exactly is the "because he was Muslim" coming from?
[QUOTE=FlashMarsh;50510261]Ever heard of multiple causes?[/QUOTE] A paedophile is a paedophile. The fact these guys were asians (funny term since it covers everyone in asia which should technically include europeans) helped the news story gain traction. People talk about this still when they talk about asians having a higher propensity to rape kids. tbh the bias is so strong that a new story about pedos is unlikely to be posted if it doesn't contain muslims/asians/ethnic minorities. A few days back this guy was arrested [url]http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/01/britains-worst-paedophile-who-targeted-poverty-stricken-children/[/url] Labelled britains worst pedophile. Surely that shoulda been news worthy? Maybe I'm guilty for not posting it but surely someone should have. Because he was white nobody will talk about it. I also feel that its a similar scenario to catholics having bad rep for that sort of thing. Cept its not attributed to ethnicity, its "a catholic thing". I don't believe you were applying it to race but many people do. Also I'm not denying there are cultural issues in some ethnic communities but I think like many things regarding immigrants and ethnic minority there is some sort of perception bias affecting most people, myself included.
[QUOTE=Swebonny;50510342]And I guess you're fucking stupid. [editline]13th June 2016[/editline] go on write ur fucking essay. i wanna read[/QUOTE] Stop trying to bait me into getting myself banned.
[QUOTE=Killuah;50510346]Erm [quote]"I quit because everything he said was toxic," Gilroy said Sunday, "and the company wouldn't do anything. This guy was unhinged and unstable. He talked of killing people."[/quote] Excuse my doubt but where exactly is the "because he was Muslim" coming from?[/QUOTE] That quote combined with 2 FBI investigations, how was he not stopped. NSA/FBI push for more intrusive measures into americans lives but can't snatch a crook when he's literally presented to them twice.
I still don't see anything indicating that "because he was Muslim" is anything but afigment of the articles author
[QUOTE=Killuah;50510346]Erm Excuse my doubt but where exactly is the "because he was Muslim" coming from?[/QUOTE] Yeah, I haven't seen any suggestion that ignoring this is to do with him being a Muslim. I really don't believe that a company like G4S would care about being 'PC' or anything like that in the first place either way.
Yeah, G4S doesn't give a big dick about anything since they're just another shitty private security company. Just look up the shit that they've pulled. It goes without saying they'd hire someone like Mateen. Fuck PMCs/Security contractors, they're the scum of the earth and the fact that they're allowed to operate within civilized nations is a blemish on society
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;50510391]Yeah, G4S doesn't give a big dick about anything since they're just another shitty private security company. Just look up the shit that they've pulled. It goes without saying they'd hire someone like Mateen. Fuck PMCs/Security contractors, they're the scum of the earth and the fact that they're allowed to operate within civilized nations is a blemish on society[/QUOTE] There's a difference between using contractors for security at home and actually using them in war. I think the former is completely fine (of course it comes with problems, but so does the suggestion all security should be handled by the state) but the other should be stopped.
[QUOTE=FlashMarsh;50510419]There's a difference between using contractors for security at home and actually using them in war. I think the former is completely fine (of course it comes with problems, but so does the suggestion all security should be handled by the state) but the other should be stopped.[/QUOTE] The fact that they get to house themselves in civilized/1st world countries in any case, or take any contracts from governments, is appalling.
But all muslims are homophobic, right?
It's difficult to legitimately accuse someone of a crime such as terrorism especially if they're Islamic because of the sort of life-ruining backlash you could get. Just look at Ahmed the shitty clock maker for example. [QUOTE=Swebonny;50510342]And I guess you're fucking stupid. [editline]13th June 2016[/editline] go on write ur fucking essay. i wanna read [highlight](User was banned for this post ("FLAMING" - Orkel))[/highlight] [highlight](User was banned for this post ("brb" - Swebonny))[/highlight][/QUOTE] Banning yourself as damage control to hide your own hypocrisy. Good one
[QUOTE=Britain;50510589]It's difficult to accuse someone legitimately accuse someone of a crime such as terrorism especially if they're Islamic because of the sort of life-ruining backlash you could get. Just look at Ahmed the shitty clock maker for example.[/QUOTE] ...are you saying clock boy was "legitimately accused of terrorism"? Seriously? [QUOTE]Banning yourself as damage control to hide your own hypocrisy. Good one[/QUOTE] Sounds more like he banned himself because he was clearly too angry to speak or act with a cool head on here.
[QUOTE=orgornot;50510096]It's like that thing in the UK where Pakistanis had been sexually abusing children and no-one wanted to step up and stop it because they were afraid of being called racist.[/QUOTE] Like, I know you're not going to listen because /r/thedonald is the only way of life you know. But this shit has been covered several times when a certain shitbird who's been permabanned for being a shitbird wouldn't stop bringing Rotherdam up in any thread to do with "brown people". The investigating force were not remotely trustworthy with their reports. Using the fear of being called racist to hide the fact they were incompetent and corrupt, looking the other way of their own volition the entire time. Investigations into the police response to this case found a lot of frankly disturbing bullshit being pulled by the police. Officers attempted to raise concerns over the case being sidelined or suspended, officers on the case viewing the victims as "undesirables" who weren't worth the time or effort to help. And lets not even get on to the rings of a similar vein run by our richest and Catholic. Muslims and people of "non-white" skin colours aren't the only people capable of raping children in an organised manner.
[QUOTE=Cypher_09;50510501]But all muslims are homophobic, right?[/QUOTE] Traditionally, Islam considers homosexuality to be a sin. Homosexuality in most of the Islamic world is illegal and carries the death penalty in quite a few countries. In most Muslim-majority countries same sex intercourse is legal though. [editline]13th June 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=hexpunK;50510677]Like, I know you're not going to listen because /r/thedonald is the only way of life you know. But this shit has been covered several times when a certain shitbird who's been permabanned for being a shitbird wouldn't stop bringing Rotherdam up in any thread to do with "brown people". The investigating force were not remotely trustworthy with their reports. Using the fear of being called racist to hide the fact they were incompetent and corrupt, looking the other way of their own volition the entire time. Investigations into the police response to this case found a lot of frankly disturbing bullshit being pulled by the police. Officers attempted to raise concerns over the case being sidelined or suspended, officers on the case viewing the victims as "undesirables" who weren't worth the time or effort to help. And lets not even get on to the rings of a similar vein run by our richest and Catholic. Muslims and people of "non-white" skin colours aren't the only people capable of raping children in an organised manner.[/QUOTE] Historically maybe but Muslim grooming gangs have been more prevalent lately.
[QUOTE=karlosfandango;50510778]Traditionally, Islam considers homosexuality to be a sin.[/QUOTE] Not any more than Christianity or Judaism. [QUOTE=karlosfandango;50510778]Homosexuality in most of the Islamic world is illegal and carries the death penalty in quite a few countries.[/QUOTE] Can you name a Middle Eastern government, including the likes of Saudi Arabia or Iran that have carried out the death penalty as prescribed in their penal code for homosexuality? I am not asking for the penal code on homosexuality, I know it exists and I know it is never used. I am asking for a case in the past 20 years where an Islamic government (i.e. not ISIS/Taliban/Al-Qaeda) in the Middle East carried out the death sentence for homosexuality. They aren't any death sentences carried out. This also includes the alleged death sentence for apostasy or being an "atheist" in the Middle East, none of which have resulted in any death sentences in the past 20 years despite numerous convictions for these offenses.
[QUOTE=Cypher_09;50510501]But all muslims are homophobic, right?[/QUOTE] I wouldn't be surprised if most what appears to be "moderate" Muslims actually cheer for Omar Mateen secretly. [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Trolling" - Big Dumb American))[/highlight]
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