• How to raise boys to be good men.
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[IMG]http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/assets/131009154023-female-male-abuse-hp-video.jpeg[/IMG] [URL="http://www.cnn.com/2013/12/25/living/raising-boys-to-be-men-identity/index.html?c=living"]http://www.cnn.com/2013/12/25/living/raising-boys-to-be-men-identity/index.html?c=living[/URL] [QUOTE](CNN) - Boys do what they are taught. They become what they see. Unfortunately, from mid to late adolescence boys face an array of bad, sexy guy images. Upsetting stories about boys' sexual aggression, such as the allegations of rape in Steubenville and Maryville, continue to surface. These boys who make the news become symbolic of all males. We hear less from the other quieter boys, though they constitute a majority. In the privacy of a psychologist's office such as mine, however, many boys admit to longing for that "miraculous feeling when you hold someone special's hand for the first time." Boys, like girls, have complicated feelings. They struggle with their identities. They have no idea how to approach females. The anything goes sexual mores of teen sexuality create pressure to perform as well as pressure not to violate.[/QUOTE]
[quote]Boys, like girls, have complicated feelings. They struggle with their identities. They have no idea how to approach females.[/quote] Sounds like me.
Facepunch really needs this
What about boys who don't know how to approach boys This article reeks of outdated values, I mean what the fuck [quote]Third, advise your son not to have virtual or real sexual contact with someone he doesn't know well. They should not have sexual contact with someone with whom they have not shared a meal.[/quote] Ok thanks [quote]Researchers have found that the more your son sees explicitly aggressive sexual behavior, the more his patterns of stimulation will be geared to such imagery. He will internalize these images as patterns. He will eventually be inclined to act upon them.[/quote] Oh look it's the good ol' boys will be boys argument "men who rape just can't help it, they are men and as such have simple minds; they just act upon what they have seen"
you can fuck on the first date, just make sure to get them dinner first
[QUOTE=demoguy08;43308129]Oh look it's the good ol' boys will be boys argument men who rape just can't help it, they are men and as such have simple minds; they just act upon what they have seen[/QUOTE] A researched psychological cause for this kind of aggression occurring, the next sentence talking about how they are accountable regardless, and an entire article about how to counter this. But it comes back to a blame game and an idiotic view of psychology for you.
[QUOTE=Devodiere;43308211]A researched psychological cause for this kind of aggression occurring, the next sentence talking about how they are accountable regardless, and an entire article about how to counter this. But it comes back to a blame game and an idiotic view of psychology for you.[/QUOTE] Uh what I'm pretty sure he was being sarcastic in the last bit.
[QUOTE=TheHydra;43308146]you can fuck on the first date, just make sure to get them dinner first[/QUOTE] Woa, wait a second. You don't use tranquilizers? Aside from that: Boys have feelings, girls have feelings. In other words: The sky is blue.
[QUOTE=Splarg!;43308242]Uh what I'm pretty sure he was being sarcastic in the last bit.[/QUOTE] Indeed, added citation marks for emphasis
I think I can best this article. There are people you like, and there are people who like you (surprise!). The two groups have an overlap; find it. Merry Christmas
One of the things that really needs to be addressed is guys treating sex like a commodity that they get in return for doing other things like taking them out on a nice date, which is sort of what TheHydra was joking about I think. This isn't necessarily about guys who force themselves on girls, but all different types of guys can be douchy about this.
The biggest problem is that the raise of boys is now primarily in the hand of women. Kindergartner and elementary school teachers are mainly women who raise boys to be way more feminine than back in the early 20th century. (Read "No more Mr. Nice Guy", it shows exactly this problem.)
[QUOTE=demoguy08;43308129] Oh look it's the good ol' boys will be boys argument "men who rape just can't help it, they are men and as such have simple minds; they just act upon what they have seen"[/QUOTE] You can be a further devils advocate and say that because of this its a woman's fault for being raped due to revealing clothing, attitude, personality etc. After all, men are sexually driven beasts who have no real control over their society taught urges.
teach them to be classy: a suit and fedora are a must at all times
[QUOTE=Splarg!;43308340]One of the things that really needs to be addressed is guys treating sex like a commodity that they get in return for doing other things like taking them out on a nice date, which is sort of what TheHydra was joking about I think. This isn't necessarily about guys who force themselves on girls, but all different types of guys can be douchy about this.[/QUOTE] Part of that lies in old fairy tails and stuff. What always happens? Guy saves the girl and gets the girl. We're pretty much raised on stories like that.
[QUOTE=TorashVD;43308353]elementary school teachers are mainly women who raise boys to be way more feminine than back in the early 20th century.[/QUOTE] What do you mean by "way more feminine"?
Dammit straw men, stay out. The sapient beings wish to converse.
[QUOTE=MaxOfS2D;43308405]What do you mean by "way more feminine"?[/QUOTE] Many men today are not bold any more, far less aggressive (In a good way, like aggressive in business) etc. They become the "Nice Guy", which mostly have bad cards getting a decent woman. ( Read the book, It's not about being a jerk, but being a man. Being nice is not bad, being to nice is) Why so many dumb ratings. You can see many men moaning everyday for getting a too low pay who never asked for a raise. Or men always complaining about girls who never had the guts to ask one out. Letting other people do the first move sure is feminine in my opinionn
[QUOTE=TorashVD;43308353]Read "No more Mr. Nice Guy"[/QUOTE] That's a really good book. Everyone who complains about being nice but not getting pussy should read it.
[QUOTE=TorashVD;43308465]Many men today are not bold any more, far less aggressive (In a good way, like aggressive in business) etc. They become the "Nice Guy", which mostly have bad cards getting a decent woman. ( Read the book, It's not about being a jerk, but being a man. Being nice is not bad, being to nice is)[/QUOTE] are you a red piller
[QUOTE=lolwutdude;43308481]are you a red piller[/QUOTE] I didn't mentioned any conspiracy. I don't get your conclusion. Your name is my reaction.
[QUOTE=TorashVD;43308465]Many men today are not bold any more, far less aggressive (In a good way, like aggressive in business) etc. They become the "Nice Guy", which mostly have bad cards getting a decent woman. ( Read the book, It's not about being a jerk, but being a man. Being nice is not bad, being to nice is)[/QUOTE] What. [editline]26th December 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=itisjuly;43308468]That's a really good book. Everyone who complains about being nice but not getting pussy should read it.[/QUOTE] What? EDIT: Nice guys don't have trouble getting girls, you just need to stop being an entitled shit. If you're nice to a woman, she's under no obligation to like you in return. You don't need to stop being a nice guy, you need to stop expecting sex for being nice. It'll make you bitter and hateful, and that's what makes people dislike you.
[QUOTE=TorashVD;43308510]I didn't mentioned any conspiracy. I don't get your conclusion. Your name is my reaction.[/QUOTE] im sorry, its just that your posts were way too hilarious and i thought i somehow stumbled onto /r/redpill
[QUOTE=deltasquid;43308512]What. [editline]26th December 2013[/editline] What? EDIT: Nice guys don't have trouble getting girls, you just need to stop being an entitled shit. If you're nice to a woman, she's under no obligation to like you in return. You don't need to stop being a nice guy, you need to stop expecting sex for being nice. It'll make you bitter and hateful, and that's what makes people dislike you.[/QUOTE] Yeah and that's what the book goes into detail about. So much for whatting around.
there's a general stigma surrounding men in society and sex. it's almost treated like a reward and that can have pretty bad effects on how people interact with partners in general
[QUOTE=.Lain;43308563] it's almost treated like a reward[/QUOTE] Which confuses me since sex is supposed to be good for both people.
im still not sure being 'masculine is bad now and men are being feminized' trend is coming from last i checked, being masculine is still a pretty mainstream thing i have not ever once in my life ever seen someone being criticized for being manly lol
[QUOTE=lolwutdude;43308597]im still not sure being 'masculine is bad now and men are being feminized' trend is coming from last i checked, being masculine is still a pretty mainstream thing i have not ever once in my life ever seen someone being criticized for being manly lol[/QUOTE] On the other hand I've seen plenty of cases of being criticized for trying to be manly.
[QUOTE=itisjuly;43308622]On the other hand I've seen plenty of cases of being criticized for trying to be manly.[/QUOTE] yeah man, i forgot there has been cases where feminine boys bullied other manly kids into submssion with insults like 'HAHAHA WHAT A BOY' and 'WHY DONT YOU GROW YOUR BICEPS HARDER, SUCH A MAN LOL'
[QUOTE=lolwutdude;43308645]yeah man, i forgot there has been cases where feminine boys bullied other manly kids into submssion with insults like 'HAHAHA WHAT A BOY' and 'WHY DONT YOU GROW YOUR BICEPS HARDER, SUCH A MAN LOL'[/QUOTE] If you hit the guy who just harassed your girlfriend or talked shit about friends, family etc. , which is considered a manly move, most people will stare at you and your girlfriend will most probably say to you that you are "embarrassing" her.
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