Video shows anti-Trump activists plotting to set off stink bombs, sprinklers at inaugural fetes
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[quote]Anti-Trump protesters are plotting to derail an inaugural ball by setting off stink bombs and the sprinkler system to force the evacuation of celebrants, according to an undercover video released Monday.
The D.C. Anti-Fascist Coalition, part of the anti-inauguration umbrella group #DisruptJ20, plans to “ruin” the DeploraBall, a sold-out black-tie gathering Thursday night at the National Press Building, according to the Project Veritas investigation.
“I was thinking of things that would ruin their evening, ruin their outfits and otherwise make it impossible to continue with their plans. So they get nothing accomplished,” a man identified in the video as Scott Green, a leader of the D.C. Anti-Fascist Coalition, said in the undercover video.
Another activist, identified as Luke Kuhn, said during a sit-down at the Comet Ping Pong pizza parlor in Northwest Washington: “If you had a pint of butyric acid, I don’t care how big the building is, it is closing.” Mr. Green responded: “And this stuff is very efficient, it’s very, very smelly, and it lasts a long time.”
Butyric acid is an ingredient commonly used in stink bombs. As a backup plan, activists said in the video they would look to set off the sprinkler system.
“I’m trying to think through how to get all the sprinklers to go off at once,” said an activist identified as Colin Dunn, adding that he wants to be sure the vandalism is “made to look like an accident.”
“And you add the benefit, everybody is going to walk outside in the freezing cold,” he said.
The Project Veritas video comes as a behind-the-scenes look at the left-wing campaign aimed at upending festivities for Friday’s inauguration of President-elect Donald Trump.
“Just to be clear, we don’t have a problem with people protesting peacefully or voicing their First Amendment rights. That’s protected by the Constitution,” said James O’Keefe, Project Veritas’ founder and president. “But in this case, #DisruptJ20 says openly that their plan is to shut down the inauguration. The question is, where do these people draw the line?”
In a Monday post, #DisruptJ20 dismissed the Project Veritas video, saying Mr. O’Keefe “likes to hire sad aspiring actors to go undercover to get video of leftists in order to chop up the film to make up a news story. Hilariously enough, we have nothing to hide.”
In a statement, #DisruptJ20 said the activists in the undercover video figured out the Project Veritas investigator was a plant and “gave him false information about … what they felt was the most humorous red herring available: a false plot to use stink bombs at an event called the Deploraball with the so-called ‘Alt-Right.’”
“The group had no intention of causing any damage or disruption at the Deploraball,” the #DisruptJ20 statement reads. “Instead, the intent was to capture on video any compromising moments from the performers or speakers, such as the Nazi salutes that similar groups gave in November, broadcast widely by The Atlantic.”
Mr. O’Keefe wasn’t buying it, posting an email from Mr. Green to other activists about how he had conducted “reconnaissance” at the party site.
“So they’re lying now and they’re trying to make it look like they were feeding us false information,” Mr. O’Keefe said. “Tell it to the judge.”
#DisruptJ20, which calls itself “the start of the resistance,” has mapped out a series of protests in Washington, D.C., aimed at wreaking havoc before and during the inauguration, including blocking the inaugural parade, snarling traffic and “paralyzing” the city.
In its public statements, the D.C. Anti-Fascist Coalition has urged protesters to remain peaceful, warning them that the DeploraBall will have a large media presence and “do not under any circumstances initiate any violence, but protect one another and practice self-defense.”
Even so, Project Veritas investigators said they were so concerned about the threats that they notified the FBI, Secret Service and D.C. police in “an unprecedented move for our organization.”[/quote]
Source
[url]http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jan/16/video-shows-anti-trump-activists-plotting-set-stin/[/url]
Link to DisruptJ20's response.
[url]http://www.disruptj20.org/media/vertas/[/url]
[quote]One of these infiltrators was someone calling himself “Tyler.” Due to suspicions, the organizers initiated their vetting process with a false flag operation. Our allies at the DC Antifascist Coalition met with Tyler. Because they thought it would be a humorous venue, they arranged to meet with Tyler at Comet Ping Pong, which has recently been targeted by right-wing fake news outlets. Though the coalition members did not know who he was working for, they knew Tyler was not who he said he was. So, they met in advance of their meeting with Tyler, and planned to gave him false information about the what they felt was the most humorous red herring available: a false plot to use stink bombs at an event called the Deploraball with the so-called “Alt Right.” Tyler, as it turned out, was recording a video for Project Veritas.
False plans were discussed with Tyler. They spoke of false plans in order to protect themselves, and did not discuss any real intentions. It is laughable that Project Veritas believes that organizers would discuss secret “stink bomb’ plans with an unknown individual in a public venue. Project Veritas’ lack of judgement portrays the poor quality of their work.[/quote]
Project Veritas Video
[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHZSfhd1X_8&feature=youtu.be[/media]
I'm not going to trust a known liar.
Those gosh-darn rascals!
Get me a source that isn't a liar who makes money off of peddling bullshit
Lol, video shows idiot trying to play secret spy and gets absolutely destroyed by false information.
[QUOTE=F.X Clampazzo;51682128]Lol, video shows idiot trying to play secret spy and gets absolutely destroyed by false information.[/QUOTE]
I hate Project Veritas and all but if DisruptJ20 was really are they were a spy why the fuck would they incriminate themselves on purpose
Can someone explain to me why everyone is so quick to overlook this?
I mean his video seems kinda shitty but I wouldn't be to out there to think people are planning this type of stuff. At the same time they're gonna feed them false info don't you think that would bring attention to them and ruin other real plans they have?
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;51682126]Get me a source that isn't a liar who makes money off of peddling bullshit[/QUOTE]
Don't worry I'm sure Breitbart will pick up the story next: "DistruptJ20 plans to plant "stink" bombs at inaugural celebration"
Shit they might leave out the "stink" entirely.
[QUOTE=Helix Snake;51682133]I hate Project Veritas and all but if DisruptJ20 was really are they were a spy why the fuck would they incriminate themselves on purpose[/QUOTE]
Good question, it's almost as if they have absolutely zero plans along this line because surprise, no one plans criminal activity with a random stranger in a public place? Only an idiot would believe anything in this video as any sort of truth. Same goes if someone known for faking information claimed to have exclusive evidence that pro-trump rallies were planning to firebomb the white house if Hillary won.
Feeding false information is a huge part of counter intelligence operations. It's the entire reason D-Day actually worked for example. German spies were fed loads of bullshit info that caused the Germans to plan and act against something that wasn't real, and then bam, suddenly invasion happens from somewhere new. If anything feeding the whole stink bomb story could be something along those lines at best, if you're willing to give them that much credit, but honestly it's probably nothing more than a stupid "prank" feeding garbage info to some dumbass who's gullible/has their head so far up their ideological ass that they'll believe anything you tell them so long as it fits their narrative.
[QUOTE=MR-X;51682134]Can someone explain to me why everyone is so quick to overlook this?[/QUOTE]
James O'Queef has a long history of faking information and editing footage to put his forced ideological enemies in a bad spotlight.
Stink bombs? Are they twelve?
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;51682143]James O'Queef has a long history of faking information and editing footage to put his forced ideological enemies in a bad spotlight.[/QUOTE]
Ah I see. I was just curious.
[QUOTE=MR-X;51682150]Ah I see. I was just curious.[/QUOTE]
Like in the infamous ACORN video, he chopped up huge amounts of film to make it look like it was some seedy (no pun intended) organization bent on the destruction of American families
[QUOTE=MR-X;51682134]Can someone explain to me why everyone is so quick to overlook this?
I mean his video seems kinda shitty but I wouldn't be to out there to think people are planning this type of stuff.[/QUOTE]
Honestly this is probably not even misleading but Project Veritas has atomic bombed their own reputation so hard that there's no reason to believe anything they have to say. They claim that they forwarded unedited footage to the authorities and that the authorities think it's serious so wait for news from an actual decent source on whatever action they decide to take. If nothing happens, just assume Project Veritas was full of shit, again.
[QUOTE=MR-X;51682134]Can someone explain to me why everyone is so quick to overlook this?
I mean his video seems kinda shitty but I wouldn't be to out there to think people are planning this type of stuff.[/QUOTE]
The video's coming from a person who makes misleading exposes by splicing together videos and lying about the context they came from. He got people fired because of his misinformation.
[URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ACORN_2009_undercover_videos_controversy"]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ACORN_2009_undercover_videos_controversy[/URL]
It's certainly plausible that someone COULD plan something to this effect, but the only evidence that it IS happening is from a liar who makes fake exposes as his occupation. You could just as well say that it's PLAUSIBLE that someone could be planning to egg Hillary Clinton's house at this very moment, but it's silly to assume that this is the case when there's no credible evidence that it's actually happening.
[QUOTE=Helix Snake;51682133]I hate Project Veritas and all but if DisruptJ20 was really are they were a spy why the fuck would they incriminate themselves on purpose[/QUOTE]
Basically this is the real question no one is answering.
It's just so stupid for DisruptJ20 to incriminate themselves like this.
Especially with "faking" something so incriminating like [b]unleashing Buytric acid in ventilation systems[/b] that could get them a Terrorism charge.
Doesn't really help whatever movement was organizing the event since their response was basically "lol we were pretending to be retarded"
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;51682143]James O'Queef has a long history of faking information and editing footage to put his forced ideological enemies in a bad spotlight.[/QUOTE]
Well DisruptJ20 acknowledges the content and doesn't even argue it was badly edited.
Just that they were pretending to be retarded.
They fucked up so bad even their own statement couldn't change anything except make them look retarded instead of malicious, assuming we even believe the statement.
I don't get people using James O'keefe being untrustworthy in this case when DisruptJ20 has their own official statement confirming they did it. I agree O'keefe is shit, but they've literally confirmed these things happened the way they happened on their website.
[QUOTE]So, they met in advance of their meeting with Tyler, and planned to gave him false information about the what they felt was the most humorous red herring available: a false plot to use stink bombs at an event called the Deploraball with the so-called “Alt Right.” Tyler, as it turned out, was recording a video for Project Veritas.[/QUOTE]
Ironic self incrimination is still self incrimination.
guys its comet pizza are we really sure stink bombs is below their maturity level
[sp]jk- sad I need to specify[/sp]
[QUOTE=MR-X;51682150]Ah I see. I was just curious.[/QUOTE]
more details here
[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ACORN_2009_undercover_videos_controversy[/url]
[QUOTE=Tudd;51682173]Basically this is the real question no one is answering.
It's just so stupid for DisruptJ20 to incriminate themselves like this.
Especially with "faking" something so incriminating like [b]unleashing Buytric acid in ventilation systems[/b] that could get them a Terrorism charge.[/QUOTE]
Butyric acid smells absolutely foul.
Think rancid butter, vomit, dirty goat, or crusty butthole. I once had a reaction vessel filled with butyric acid and GHB blow up in my face while developing a new oxidation scheme. That became known as the day I accidentally roofie bombed myself for science.
Not a fan of O'keefe but DJ20's response is completely laughable. Either it's organized by the stupidest people in the USA (because there is no other explanation for pulling such a stunt so close to your big day for teh lulz) or they're bullshitting.
1. It's a fucking disorganised, grassroots protest. Claiming any one entity is 'in charge of it' is inviting any retards to leap for the attention of being 'official' or whatever, just so the media spotlights them. And it works every god damn time. This is why their response is dumb - anyone who claims to be the top dog organiser of what is essentially a spontaneous movement is always going to be dumb.
2. If stink bombs and sprinklers is the worst they do then it's laughable to me people are freaking out about it.
[QUOTE=1239the;51682355]
2. If stink bombs and sprinklers is the worst they do then it's laughable to me people are freaking out about it.[/QUOTE]
Buytric acid can actually be quite the serious substance with repercussions. Also they mentioned it going through ventilation in the video.
[img]https://s29.postimg.org/m6d6fo07r/acid.png[/img]
[url]https://www.cdc.gov/niosh/ipcsneng/neng1334.html[/url]
Especially if idiots are handling it. (Not referring to the previous poster talking about it)
[QUOTE=Tudd;51682380]Buytric acid can actually be quite the serious substance with repercussions. Also they mentioned it going through ventilation in the video.
Especially if idiots are handling it. (Not referring to the previous poster talking about it)[/QUOTE]
Yes, it's nasty stuff - but no one has ever died from it as far as I know, and working with gasses is so fuckin' dangerous in the first place that it wouldn't surprise me if it blew back in the face of whoever's trying to work with it. If they wanted to cause an actual panic, they'd be talking about molotov cocktails and shit like that. This entire incident is bizarre and I'm happy to bet that it's a combination of sensationalist media and dumbass self-proclaimed 'leaders of the revolution'.
[QUOTE=1239the;51682416]Yes, it's nasty stuff - but no one has ever died from it as far as I know, and working with gasses is so fuckin' dangerous in the first place that it wouldn't surprise me if it blew back in the face of whoever's trying to work with it. If they wanted to cause an actual panic, they'd be talking about molotov cocktails and shit like that. This entire incident is bizarre and I'm happy to bet that it's a combination of sensationalist media and dumbass self-proclaimed 'leaders of the revolution'.[/QUOTE]
Since when is killing people the standard for not being able to worry about it?
#DisruptJ20 sound like they have terrible security culture if they're looking to "mess around" with people they suspect are spies. sounds like a great way to invite even greater scrutiny and infiltration attempts into their organization from people with far more experience and better resources than any private person could hope to have.
[QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;51682467]#DisruptJ20 sound like they have terrible security culture if they're looking to "mess around" with people they suspect are spies. sounds like a great way to invite even greater scrutiny and infiltration attempts into their organization from people with far more experience and better resources than any private person could hope to have.[/QUOTE]
More likely they actually fucked up and trying to cover their ass with the worse excuse used since youtube pranks.
So wait, you mean people are going to be sensationalist assholes to get attention and try to force their way in a forum where it's entirely inappropriate? Man, Trump should love it. I don't want to see so much as one angry tweet.
Can't wait. Seems only the most appropriate way to christen his entry into office. Talk about electoral colleges all you want, the electoral college can't stop the majority of US citizens from reminding you that they don't want you here.
Well I guess we will see how far the just pretending statement will be true.
[media]https://twitter.com/JamesOKeefeIII/status/821190531988520961[/media]
And Deplorable Organizer is now filing charges for domestic terrorism.
[quote]Mike Cernovich, author, pro-Trump Twitterer, and organizer of the 'Deploraball,' told followers on a Monday evening Periscope broadcast that he plans to file civil charges against anti-Trump protesters caught on camera planning to attack the event with stink bombs.
The 'Deploraball' is going to be a gathering of Trump supporters on Thursday night in Washington D.C. to celebrate the presidential inauguration. It is one of several inaugural balls planned in the city this week. Members of the 'Disrupt J-20' and 'D.C. Anti-Fascist Coalition' groups were recorded by undercover journalists from James O'Keefe's 'Project Veritas' planning to release stink bombs and activate fire alarms at the party.
"They made a real big mistake," Cernovich said about the 'Disrupt J-20' organizers. "When you're threatened with terrorism, and you have people saying they're going to commit terrorism at a party you're hosting, you have to take that quite seriously."
[b]"They seem to think it is just a prank, and I would refer them to the Dept. of Justice's website -- This is actually a felony," he continued. "This isn't funny at all. It is terrorism... We have filed a criminal complaint against the conspirators, and the FBI is investigating that right now. Tomorrow we will be filing a civil action against them also. Against the domestic terrorists who purchased tickets... This is a criminal conspiracy to commit terrorism, and we are treating it like the serious criminal conspiracy that it is."
"They are on video saying they are going to commit terrorism at the Deploraball," he continued. "They purchased a ticket. Three of them did. That is an overt act taken in furtherance of the conspiracy... We're in touch with the FBI, local police, and we are filing also a civil action."[/b]
He also noted: "The Deploraball, if you want a refund because you are concerned with your safety, we understand that. And we have 100% refund policy."
[/quote]
[url]http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2017/01/16/deploraball_organizer_plans_to_file_conspiracy_to_commit_domestic_terrorism_charges_against_disrupt_j-20.html[/url]
Also O'Keefe shows they have a mole on their email listing and posted this,
[media]https://twitter.com/JamesOKeefeIII/status/821193619461853185[/media]
And one of the group organizers actually admitted that they have a mole/O'Keefe screenshots are real...
[media]https://twitter.com/lacymacauley/status/821201139949506561[/media]
This damage control looks like it is all over the place.
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