• The GOP's new tactic in destroying Obamacare: Suing Obama
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[quote]Washington (CNN) -- They tried in Congress, at the ballot box and in the Supreme Court, but Republicans have been unable to stop Obamacare. Now they have a new angle: suing President Barack Obama over changes in enforcing his signature health care reforms. House Speaker John Boehner framed the issue as a matter of presidential overreach when he announced the focus of the lawsuit on Thursday. "In 2013, the President changed the health care law without a vote of Congress, effectively creating his own law by literally waiving the employer mandate and the penalties for failing to comply with it," Boehner said in a statement. "That's not the way our system of government was designed to work. No president should have the power to make laws on his or her own," he said. Obama and Democrats called that premise malarkey. "You're going to sue me for doing my job? OK," the President told an applauding crowd Thursday in Austin, Texas, using the opportunity to take a jab at congressional dysfunction he blames on Republican obstruction. "Think about that," Obama said. "You're going to use taxpayer money to sue me for doing my job while you don't do your job." The issue blends constitutional debate on the balance of government powers with the partisan fervor of election-year politics. [/quote] [url]http://www.cnn.com/2014/07/11/politics/gop-obama-lawsuit-5-questions/index.html?hpt=po_c1[/url]
[quote]"You're going to sue me for doing my job? OK," the President told an applauding crowd Thursday in Austin, Texas,[/quote] ...before dropping the mic and swaggering off stage.
This is actually valid critisism.
[QUOTE=MoonlessNight;45366744]This is actually valid critisism.[/QUOTE] tbh I don't see how one can only blame Obama for shit. He might not be doing his best or anything, but hey, you try and change things in a country run by people who want to have power and money and stay like that until the very day they die. Not to mention how everything was rolling downhill at a speed so fast one can stop it.
Suing the President for delaying the implementation of a regulation that Republicans hate. We are definitely in the Twilight Zone now. Boehner should have let the Tea Party hold an impeachment vote, it would have been the end of the Republican Party.
god these people are the worst
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what's sad is that the next time the republicans are voted in they will literally just remove obamacare
what's scary is that a bunch of children managed to get into seats of power in the US
[QUOTE]"You're going to sue me for doing my job? OK," the President told an applauding crowd Thursday in Austin, Texas, using the opportunity to take a jab at congressional dysfunction he blames on Republican obstruction. "Think about that," Obama said. "You're going to use taxpayer money to sue me for doing my job while you don't do your job."[/QUOTE] I don't know if there is a way to make the burn sicker, especially since it's coming from Obama himself.
United States v Obama?
[QUOTE=DogGunn;45367778]United States v Obama?[/QUOTE] I think that would actually be People v. Obama if I have it right.
[QUOTE=Zonesylvania;45367785]I think that would actually be People v. Obama if I have it right.[/QUOTE] Having read into it a bit more, I think it would be Boehner v. Obama
The rest of the world must be so confused about a bunch of conservative politicians doing everything they can to stop a rather conservative and mediocre healthcare bill that forces people to buy healthcare from mostly private insurance companies.
[QUOTE=Zonesylvania;45367785]I think that would actually be People v. Obama if I have it right.[/QUOTE] I fucking hope not since people includes me and I don't want any part of that shit.
[QUOTE=person11;45368045]The rest of the world must be so confused about a bunch of conservative politicians doing everything they can to stop a rather conservative and mediocre healthcare bill that forces people to buy healthcare from mostly private insurance companies.[/QUOTE] It's alright, i think American politics are more entertaining than any onion article i've read. What do you mean these people have some actual power and influence.. my god.
[QUOTE=Angua;45368257]It's alright, i think American politics are more entertaining than any onion article i've read. What do you mean these people have some actual power and influence.. my god.[/QUOTE]The reason politics are better than the onion. At least the onion tells you the stupidity is fabricated....you can't make up this kind of stupidity in politics.
[QUOTE=Rocâ„¢;45366776]tbh I don't see how one can only blame Obama for shit. He might not be doing his best or anything, but hey, you try and change things in a country run by people who want to have power and money and stay like that until the very day they die. Not to mention how everything was rolling downhill at a speed so fast one can stop it.[/QUOTE] The President has the power to release any one of the many Guantanamo detainees that have been cleared of anything by the Pentagon and the CIA. Please explain to me how that's a Republican conspiracy to make Democrats look bad.
[QUOTE=person11;45368045]The rest of the world must be so confused about a bunch of conservative politicians doing everything they can to stop a rather conservative and mediocre healthcare bill that forces people to buy healthcare from mostly private insurance companies.[/QUOTE] it's not confusing, it's repulsive that americans let this party exist
[QUOTE=BrainDeath;45368979]it's not confusing, it's repulsive that americans let this party exist[/QUOTE] It's repulsive we let corruption run rampant in our government in general.
If only all this money spent fighting to stop health care was actually spent on health care. I fucking swear, if 2016 sees a Republican sweep of federal power, I'm colonizing an asteroid and only Golds are allowed to come with me. [sp]OIFYers will be kicked out of an airlock at the first sign of RL shitposting.[/sp]
I can see it now, next the Republicans will start threating Obama at his next speech by throwing plushies at him
[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;45369203]If only all this money spent fighting to stop health care was actually spent on health care. I fucking swear, if 2016 sees a Republican sweep of federal power, I'm colonizing an asteroid and only Golds are allowed to come with me. [sp]OIFYers will be kicked out of an airlock at the first sign of RL shitposting.[/sp][/QUOTE] Chances are they won't win, considering the Republican party is split in two and I think a large percentage of people have decided they are fucking stupid. I'm sorry. I try to give the Conservatives leeway because I don't want to generalize that whole group as shit but seriously, all they want to do is destroy this country.
Liberals say conservatives want to destroy the country conservatives say liberals want to destroy the country this is a blame game, nothing more.
[QUOTE=Squad1993;45370792]Liberals say conservatives want to destroy the country conservatives say liberals want to destroy the country this is a blame game, nothing more.[/QUOTE] Well, strictly they are both right.
Apparently they're suing him because he passed legislation via executive order and he told them "Sue me!"
[QUOTE=person11;45368045]The rest of the world must be so confused about a bunch of conservative politicians doing everything they can to stop a rather conservative and mediocre healthcare bill that forces people to buy healthcare from mostly private insurance companies.[/QUOTE] congress: solving problems by making the problem illegal since 1790
So does anyone have an actual disagreement or are you all just happy liberal circle jerking? Do you think that it's appropriate for a president to delay a single part of a bill, completely against what the bill actually says, for political purposes?
[QUOTE=Eudoxia;45368472]The President has the power to release any one of the many Guantanamo detainees that have been cleared of anything by the Pentagon and the CIA. Please explain to me how that's a Republican conspiracy to make Democrats look bad.[/QUOTE] Its not a conspiracy. No one [B]WANTS[/B] the Guantanamo Bay prisoners, they can't just dump them in a nation.
[QUOTE=sgman91;45371324]So does anyone have an actual disagreement or are you all just happy liberal circle jerking? Do you think that it's appropriate for a president to delay a single part of a bill, completely against what the bill actually says, for political purposes?[/QUOTE] Do you think it's okay for congressional Republicans to be wasting their collective time and our tax dollars with frivolous lawsuits, for political purposes? Let's just cut through the bullshit and one-up CNN's useless reporting by getting two facts out there 1) Republicans raged against the business mandate and demanded it be delayed. I'm sure they meant through Congressional approval but the end result was the same: They got what they wanted 2) Boehner is only doing this to gin up support for establishment Republicans in an election year. He knows this suit has absolutely no standing and there is no way it's going to pass in the House. Other Republicans are already disagreeing with him. So please, don't whine about "happy liberal circle jerking" because people rightfully find this to be an absurd story. [editline]12th July 2014[/editline] Seriously if there was ever one piece that broke down what is wrong with CNN's "Well Republicans say this and Democrats say that so we will just give you both their talking points because we have no idea what journalism means" style of reporting, it's this one. Disgraceful.
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