Given that COSMOS is being resurrected, I thought it suiting to start a thread for the Tyson series.
The 13 part series starts airing on [B]March 9, 2014[/B], with the first episode: "Standing Up in the Milky Way".
Trailer:
[video=youtube;kBTd9--9VMI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBTd9--9VMI[/video]
Official website:
[URL]http://www.cosmosontv.com/[/URL]
[U][B]Spoiler - First look[/B][/U] [I haven't watched this, as I wish to wait and be awe-ridden in total, and not part]:
[video=youtube;4GZ2ul4E7Go]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GZ2ul4E7Go[/video]
You should check out the original [B]Cosmos: A Personal Voyage[/B], by Carl Sagan, they are moving, awe-inspiring, powerful, and yet insurmountably informative; the perfect ingredients for a science documentary.
I looked over the last 12 months, and couldn't see a thread on COSMOS in this section..
Edit: Deleted. Felt like my original post was just threadcrapping. Sorry.
apparently president obama is supposed to do an introduction for the show
ironic seeing as how he forced the shuttle fleet to retire and we now have to take shuttle rides with other space programs, yet apparently in this intro “invites a new generation to embrace the spirit of discovery and inspires viewers to explore new frontiers and imagine limitless possibilities for the future"
fuckin two-faced asshole
[QUOTE=Pops;44177491]apparently president obama is supposed to do an introduction for the show
ironic seeing as how he forced the shuttle fleet to retire and we now have to take shuttle rides with other space programs, yet apparently in this intro “invites a new generation to embrace the spirit of discovery and inspires viewers to explore new frontiers and imagine limitless possibilities for the future"
fuckin two-faced asshole[/QUOTE]
Weren't the shuttles way more inefficient and expensive than they were promised to be? They were cool and all, but having them still would just be a money drain.
Plus you've got to understand that the US has to put money into more pressing issues than space exploration/research.
[QUOTE=Pops;44177491]apparently president obama is supposed to do an introduction for the show
ironic seeing as how he forced the shuttle fleet to retire and we now have to take shuttle rides with other space programs, yet apparently in this intro “invites a new generation to embrace the spirit of discovery and inspires viewers to explore new frontiers and imagine limitless possibilities for the future"
fuckin two-faced asshole[/QUOTE]
Uh what?
You mean he was behind the cancellation of the Constellation program? The shuttle was bound to retire sooner or later. And recently his administration is behind the raise of NASA budget.
[editline]9th March 2014[/editline]
and they brought back parts of the Constellation program anyway
Uh what is right. Of all the things to criticize Obama about, running down the shuttle program isn't one of them. Whatever. I'm hyped about the show.
[QUOTE]In case you were wondering...
Sunday, March 9, 2014, at 9pm on FOX, the 13-part weekly TV series "Cosmos: A SpaceTime Odyssey" begins in the United States. Within seven days of this premiere, this first episode will have appeared in 181 countries, translated into 45 languages, via the National Geographic Network.
It's the continuation of Carl Sagan's landmark TV series from 1980, but brought into the 21st century. Cosmos is the story of how we came to find our place in the universe (not only where we are, but when we are) and why it matters to our civilization that we continue this searching for the truths of Nature.
The marketing plan for the series has been huge. In fact, it's the largest roll-out of a TV series of any kind in the history of television:
1) Cosmos is appearing not only on FOX, but this first episode will air simultaneously on ten of FOX's affiliate cable networks, including the National Geographic Channel, which FOX owns, and FOX Sports 1 & 2.
3) The series was promo'ed during the World Series this past October, and during the Super Bowl this past February.
4) Every major media outlet has written about the series - from the NYTImes, to USAToday, to TIME, to People, to GQ, to Parade, to The New Yorker. And the list goes on and on.
5) Major broadcast media also expressed huge interest.
So the expectations are high all around for the success of the Series. But more importantly, I think it serves as evidence that science has officially become mainstream.
Cosmos is appearing on FOX, which may at first seem like an unholy alliance. But I had became friends with Seth MacFarlane (best known as the writer and creator of the "Family Guy" animated series on FOX) at a 2008 kickoff meeting of the Science & Entertainment Exchange, which is a satellite branch in Los Angeles of the National Academy of Sciences. The office is conceived to explore any and all ways that science might encourage Hollywood to include science facts, themes, and characters in their portfolio of storytelling in television & film. Seth is a founding member of their Advisory Board. That's where I first learned of his deep interest in science, and more importantly, his deep interest in raising science literacy in the public. Upon learning that we were shopping Cosmos around to all the usual TV outlets for science documentaries, he suggested we bring the idea to FOX. They warmed to the Series, and, upon reviewing scenes and visualizations in progress, they steadily grew their marketing interest. Bringing us to today.
The series was written by the talented dyad of Ann Druyan and Steven Soter, who co-wrote the first two space shows of the newly rebuild Hayden Planetarium, after we opened the Rose Center for Earth and Space in 2000. They were also co-writers alongside Carl Sagan of the original series, so the new Cosmos carries the proper genetic legacy.
The Director is Brannon Braga, who has many film and TV credits, but is best known to his fan-base as a writer and director of the StarTrek Next Generation TV series.
The Director of Photography is Bill Pope, who is perhaps best known as the cinematographer of the Matrix trilogy and of Spiderman. So he's done interesting things with the camera. Combine this with a visual effect budget worthy of primetime network television and the story of the universe (and our place within it) comes alive as never before.
The musical composer for the series is Alan Silvestri, who scored all 13 episodes. He's done many films. But my two favorites among them are "Forrest Gump" and "Contact".
Another 700 people worked on this series in one way or another.
I serve as Host, Narrator, and Executive Editor.
I hope you get to see at least some of the series. It's conceived and designed to affect the viewer not only intellectually, but emotionally. And at its best, will reinvigorate the sense of wonder in us all.
As always, keep looking up.
-Neil deGrasse Tyson
[url]https://www.facebook.com/notes/neil-degrasse-tyson/cosmos-a-spacetime-odyssey/10151972453495869[/url][/QUOTE]
who's watching it right now? incredible cgi
[img]http://hetsu.co.uk/i/2014/03/ss-10-01_16PM-0440.png[/img]
no comment.
[QUOTE=FFStudios;44185466]who's watching it right now? incredible cgi[/QUOTE]
yea the visuals are fucking incredible
really looking forward to the topics for the other episodes, this is pretty basic (first episode so it's to be expected)
Don't mean to sound like a broken record but my gosh the special effects are incredibly well done.
I'm loving the CGI so far, besides that ship that's travelling through space, idk. I think I'm being more fascinated by the CGI more than what's actually going on.
I'm so glad this generation of children will have an inspiring person like Neil deGrasse Tyson to continue Carl Sagan's vision.
The way they honored Carl at the end caught me off guard a little bit, I wasn't expecting it. I got all choked up.
I'm so ready for another Cosmos series, I can tell this will be fantastic.
I am just about to sit down with my dinner, after having acquired it through dubious means.
I've even grabbed the Obama intro, for the authenticity.
[video=youtube;3Gg07hpof5o]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Gg07hpof5o[/video]
That was phenomenal.
That was absolutely beautiful.
I loved it. Got really emotional towards the end.
Fantastic, this is going to be wonderful. Really excited for the rest
Really enjoyed the episode.
Ok so that ending... ;_;
Show was beautifully made and I want more. I hope this show inspires today's kids as much Cosmos did back in the day.
I cried, good job NDT, Seth Macfarlane and team. Time to rewatch the original Cosmos.
Haven't seen it yet gonna watch it in a few minutes. Excited :v:
Well, that was fucking terrible.
A Carl Sagan circle jerk with an overly smug Neil DeGrasse Tyson and terribly cheap animations.
How could he let them get away with portraying the asteroid belt so wrong?
And the Cosmic Calendar was awful and condensed, so much better in the original.
I thought it was fantastic.
I loved the way they portrayed Jupiter, never seen it like that before.
Can't wait for the next episodes.
[QUOTE=The_Marine;44191605]Well, that was fucking terrible.
A Carl Sagan circle jerk with an overly smug Neil DeGrasse Tyson and terribly cheap animations.
How could he let them get away with portraying the asteroid belt so wrong?
And the Cosmic Calendar was awful and condensed, so much better in the original.[/QUOTE]
Hmm I thought the CGI was pretty good.
The only problem I had with the episode was the story of Bruno, he wasn't really a martyr for Science like he was portrayed, he dreamt that the universe was infinite and then went around preaching that he was right, he didn't use the Scientific method. He was convicted of Heresy because he denied the Trinity, Transubstantiation, Mary's Virginity, Christ's God-hood etc, he was just a straight up Heretic and his beliefs in Heliocentirism weren't really that important as to why he was killed.
[QUOTE=Thom12255;44192947]Hmm I thought the CGI was pretty good.
The only problem I had with the episode was the story of Bruno, he wasn't really a martyr for Science like he was portrayed, he dreamt that the universe was infinite and then went around preaching that he was right, he didn't use the Scientific method. He was convicted of Heresy because he denied the Trinity, Transubstantiation, Mary's Virginity, Christ's God-hood etc, he was just a straight up Heretic and his beliefs in Heliocentirism weren't really that important as to why he was killed.[/QUOTE]
That's exactly what they portrayed though.. and even as a qualifier at the end, Tyson said that Bruno wasn't conducting science, it was just a lucky guess.. which is right on the money.
His beliefs were a pretty big part in why he was executed.. they motived him to 'preach' like he did.
[QUOTE=Bradyns;44193737]That's exactly what they portrayed though.. and even as a qualifier at the end, Tyson said that Bruno wasn't conducting science, it was just a lucky guess.. which is right on the money.
His beliefs were a pretty big part in why he was executed.. they motived him to 'preach' like he did.[/QUOTE]
His belief in an infinite universe wasn't why he didn't believe in the Trinity etc, if you took away his astronomical views he would have still have been burnt at the stake.
I was reading a r/BadHistory thread on the subject and this is what someone brought up,
[quote=http://www.reddit.com/r/badhistory/comments/200hoy/raskscience_is_hosting_a_thread_to_discuss_any/]Lets cover some history prior to Bruno:
1377 - Nicole Oresme argues that the world is rotating in Le livre du Ciel et du Monde. No burnings, no heresy, no Inquisition, nothing.
1543 - Copernicus publishes De revolutionibus orbium coelestium. It's attacked by both Protestants and Catholics, but it's not classified as heretical.
1584 - Didacus a Stunica writes a theological commentary that says that scriptural references to the earth not moving can be interpreted figuratively. No censure for this.
1591 - Francesco Patrizi is called to the University of Rome to teach Platonic philosophy by the Pope. Before he arrives, he publishes Nova de universis Philosophia, a book in which he tries to replace Aristotelianism with a mystery Platonic alternative. The Congregation of the Index orders him to amend his work BUT allows the section about the rotating of the earth to stay in it. Patrizi still maintains his job at the University of Rome despite writing this.
1600 - Giordano Bruno executed on 8 charges of heresy.
1616 - Congregation of the Index declares Copernicanism heretical.
1633 - Galileo charged with Copernicanism heresy.
What is claimed is that for Bruno and for Bruno only, the church 'magically' decides Copernicanism is a heresy, then 'forgets' it's a heresy, then resurrects the idea for Galileo 16 years later. This doesn't make any sense, either logically or legally. Copernicanism isn't a heresy when Bruno is executed - therefore he cannot be executed for that reason. Other people have brought up the idea of the earth not being stationary, other people including Copernicus have brought up the concept of heliocentrism and are not yet prosecuted, but I'm supposed to believe that suddenly Bruno is the only one that the Church attacks. It's just not credible. At the time the church did not prosecute thought control on astronomers, evident in how Galileo was free to think what he wanted as long as he didn't teach it as a truth. The only viable possible thing that Bruno could have been convicted on was the plurality of worlds- but remember, Bruno claims these ideas not on scientific principles, but on magical and philosophical. Nicholas of Cusa and William Vorilong both argue for the plurality of worlds well before Bruno, so it's hard to see that as a problem, and Cusa was made a cardinal after he wrote about this in De Docta Ignorantia. Bruno does the same, but then starts giving souls to the stars, meteors, planets and the universe - a much more radical theological departure, and probably the root of his heresy charge in this matter. He's not doing science - he doesn't even understand Copernicus properly. Bruno claims himself that his work is[/quote]
Maybe I'm a bit over re-acting to the Church's portrayal but with Seth "We'd have flying cars if it wasn't for the Chrisitan Dark ages" Mcfarlarne as a producer on the show and doing the Voice for Bruno it seems like the animation had a distinct anti-religion bias to it.
The episode is on youtube if you guys want to send link to people without access to Hulu etc.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tk3SdJPlQs8[/media]
Just watched it. Those last 5 minutes with Tyson talking about Sagan... Wow, talk about a tear jerker. But I enjoyed it. It seemed to cut some bits out compared to the original, probably because of time limitations because of advertisements. Perhaps they'll make up for it in later episodes...
Amazing CGI, amazing music, i really felt like i was being pulled in, very beautiful and emotional ending where i can't deny i had a little lump in my throat. I'm already feeling amazed about being alive and experiencing our universe the way many before us never has. Great things are to be discovered in our life time it seems. i'm excited
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