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[URL="http://news.yahoo.com/congressional-backing-grows-gun-control-debate-220341844--politics.html"]Souce[/URL] [quote]WASHINGTON (AP) — [B]Congressional gun rights supporters showed an increased willingness Tuesday to consider new legislation to control firearms in the aftermath of the Connecticut school shootings — provided it also addresses mental health issues and the impact of violent video games. [/B] A former co-chairman of the Congressional Sportsmen's Caucus, Democratic Rep. Mike Thompson, D-Calif., and 10-term House Republican Jack Kingston — a Georgia lawmaker elected with strong National Rifle Association backing — were the latest to join the call to consider gun control as part of a comprehensive, anti-violence effort next year. "Put guns on the table, also put video games on the table, put mental health on the table," Kingston said. But he added that nothing should be done immediately, saying, "There is a time for mourning and a time to sort it out. I look forward to sorting it out and getting past the grief stage." With the nation's nerves still raw over the murders of 20 elementary school children and six teachers, White House, spokesman Jay Carney said President Barack Obama was "actively supportive" of a plan by Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., to introduce legislation to reinstate an assault weapons ban. While Obama has long supported a ban, he exerted little effort to get it passed during his first term. Meanwhile, the National Rifle Association, silent since the shootings, said in a statement that it "is prepared to offer meaningful contributions to help make sure this never happens again." There was no indication what that might entail. The group, the best-known defender of gun rights in America, scheduled a news conference for Friday. On Capitol Hill, Feinstein is likely to become chairman next year of the Senate Judiciary Committee, which may get the first crack at considering firearms legislation. Carney said the president also would support legislation that closes a gun show "loophole," which allows people to buy guns from private dealers without a background check. And he says Obama would be "interested in looking at" legislation to restrict high capacity ammunition clips. The spokesman said Obama was heartened by growing support on Capitol Hill for a national discussion on gun violence, particularly from seemingly unlikely lawmakers. The president spoke on the phone Tuesday with West Virginia Sen. Joe Manchin, a conservative Democrat and avid hunter, who said after the Connecticut shootings that "everything should be on the table" in those discussions. Carney sidestepped questions about whether Obama regrets not having taken stronger gun control during his first term, but he said the president does think more needs to be done. "We as a nation — and he, as a member and leader of the nation — need to do more," he said. Late Wednesday, the National Rifle Association, the most potent pro-gun group and one that keeps score of lawmakers' votes, explained its silence until now. "The National Rifle Association of America is made up of four million moms and dads, sons and daughters - and we were shocked, saddened and heartbroken by the news of the horrific and senseless murders in Newtown," the NRA statement said. "Out of respect for the families, and as a matter of common decency, we have given time for mourning, prayer and a full investigation of the facts before commenting." Among members of Congress, Thompson, the former Sportsmen's Caucus co-chairman, was named to lead a Democratic task force on gun violence. He's a hunter, a wounded Vietnam veteran and a conservative Democrat. "The only experience I've had with assault weapons was the one that I was trained with when I was in the Army," he said. "I know that this is not a war on guns. Gun owners and hunters across this country have every right to own legitimate guns for legitimate purposes and ... we are not going to take law-abiding citizens 'guns away from them." On Monday, NRA member Manchin, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid and Sen. Charles Grassley, R-Iowa — senior Republican on the Judiciary Committee — said it's time for a debate that would include gun control. Reid previously had taken pro-gun positions for years. Not all Republicans were willing to go as far as Grassley or Kingston, but they didn't rule out tackling gun control. Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell told reporters, "The entire Congress is united in condemning the violence in Newtown and on the need to enforce our laws. As we continue to learn the facts, Congress will examine whether there is an appropriate and constitutional response that would better protect our citizens." McConnell added that Reid controls the Senate schedule. At a regular House Republican closed-door meeting Tuesday Rep. Tim Murphy of Pennsylvania, a psychologist, led a discussion on mental illness — which he described as the primary cause of mass shootings. Murphy said he told colleagues that mental illness was the common link in similar tragic incidents and "we have to stop pretending it doesn't exist. We need to understand what it is that triggers changes in someone." "I see it as the center of the issue. Get mental illness out of the shadows."[/quote] I have never seen such a topic yield so many scapegoats unrelated to the issue.
let's take them back off
Noooooooooooooo! But really now, they didn't have a part in any of this.
Don't forget film, literature, and music.
Drugs, sex, violence, hysteria, guns, bloodshed, genocide, crime are not an issue in the world... the assholes who abuse it are.
Congress go away, you're retarded.
Oh boy, this shit again.
Here we go again...
Ok, then, You put games on the table, how about we put News outlets on the table? (All of them)
Haven't there even been studies that show that while playing violent games aggression increases? But for a sustained period of time afterwards aggression goes down?
[QUOTE=Glaber;38886646]Ok, then, You put games on the table, how about we put News outlets on the table? (All of them)[/QUOTE] Man I hope this table is well made, so much stuff is being put on it.
I think of video games as porn really. You hear all these discussions about how sexual assaults from pedos can be reduced with hentai/loli shit so they have something to fap to and don't have to rape. I feel its kinda the same way. All those kids screaming on the mic and threatening to kill people or whatever probably use violent games as an output, so I think that banning violent games would probably increase shootings.
I thought we were past this. Old people complaining about video games
DAMMIT, NOT THIS SHIT AGAIN.
[QUOTE=TehDoctorz;38886650]Haven't there even been studies that show that while playing violent games aggression increases? But for a sustained period of time afterwards aggression goes down?[/QUOTE] Playing violent video games does not make a normal person violent, nor does it give them violent urges that they then have to sate in the real world.
[QUOTE=TehDoctorz;38886650]Haven't there even been studies that show that while playing violent games aggression increases? But for a sustained period of time afterwards aggression goes down?[/QUOTE] aggression increases when playing [I]shitty[/I] video games
Cars kill more people lets ban cars while we are at it.
[QUOTE=abcpea2;38886772]aggression increases when playing [I]shitty[/I] video games[/QUOTE] I get visibly angry and tempered when being forced to do the ground sequences in games like star trek online.
[QUOTE=abcpea2;38886772]aggression increases when playing [I]shitty[/I] video games[/QUOTE] And depending on the person, latency issues can tick off a person too.
[QUOTE=Siminov;38886792]Cars kill more people lets ban cars while we are at it.[/QUOTE] Air causes cancer ban air
Guys mass murderers breath oxygen let's ban that too
Why do many European countries with the same games still retain a lower gun death rate then?
[QUOTE=J!NX;38886623]Drugs, sex, violence, hysteria, guns, bloodshed, genocide, crime are not an issue in the world... the assholes who abuse it are.[/QUOTE] Yeah, all those people who abuse genocide are making me look bad.
America just went full retard, you never go full retard.
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[QUOTE=MR-X;38886855]America just went full retard, you never go full retard.[/QUOTE] Implying they already haven't. [QUOTE=Splash Attack;38886850]Yeah, all those people who abuse genocide are making me look bad.[/QUOTE] I hate when people abuse genocide too.
[QUOTE=Starpluck;38886592][URL="http://news.yahoo.com/congressional-backing-grows-gun-control-debate-220341844--politics.html"]Souce[/URL] I have never seen such a topic yield so many scapegoats unrelated to the issue.[/QUOTE] Y'know. The centre of Gun Violence will always be the object and perp: Guns and insanity. So the source of both will always be attempted isolated. Videogames, movies, evolution, Rush Limbaugh, Obongo, Bill O'Reilly, Jews and so forth. But then again O'Reilly and Limbaugh have never been blamed for the brain-rot that caused the shooting. Maybe it's time we look for answers with the Media and how they present shit?
[QUOTE=gamefreek76;38886619]Don't forget film, literature, and music.[/QUOTE] I must be the only one on Facepunch who isn't absolutely against the idea of violent video games contributing to violence. [editline]18th December 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=J!NX;38886623]Drugs, sex, violence, hysteria, guns, bloodshed, genocide, crime are not an issue in the world... the assholes who abuse it are.[/QUOTE] It's fun to go all pseudointellectual but then you realize that "bloodshed, genocide, crime" are not things that can be used without being abused
They just pick video games because it's the 'edgiest' medium there is. Before that, people blamed rap. And before that it was movies and comic books.
[QUOTE=Elecbullet;38886911]I must be the only one on Facepunch who isn't absolutely against the idea of violent video games contributing to violence.[/QUOTE] Whether they do or not, you are ignoring other violent activities such as violent movies, violent books, and violent sports, such as boxing or wrestling. What else can we do as a society? We already have strict laws and age requirements on these games. If people truly wish to buy them for their children, than maybe we should impose better laws on that. But that also gets rid of specific freedoms, if we know our children can handle them. I grew up with violent games and I am functionally fine. Because I was able to handle it and my parents knew I could. What would you suggest? Infact, don't forget too that not just children are crazy, the serial killer was 20+, do you purpose we put a mental exam on a form of entertainment?
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