• AMD teases new A-Series APUs for PC with trailer
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[video=youtube;MQcjEA3it90]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQcjEA3it90[/video] [QUOTE]Visiting the video's landing page reveals additional information about the upcoming line, including select benchmarks for the upcoming A10-6800K — the top of the line chip. According to the graph, the 4.4GHz chip is capable of running Sim City at 93 frames-per-second at 1080p at max settings without the aid of a discrete GPU. AMD has promised more details about the new A-series APUs to coincide with E3 next week.[/QUOTE] I understand the source is IGN but they're the first ones to grab this. I'll update source if this isn't a valid source. Source:[URL]http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/06/04/amd-teases-next-gen-a-series-apus[/URL] AMD website: [URL]http://sites.amd.com/us/promo/products/Pages/invincible.aspx[/URL] Well this is just even more reason to look forward to E3.
The improvement in the APU's graphics isnt much compared to the 5800 series, pretty much because Intel hasnt been able to provide much competition.. Same story for Intel's new chips when it comes to the CPU's performance, no competition from AMD.
[url=http://www.aria.co.uk/SuperSpecials/Other+products/AMD+%28Richland%29+A10-6800K+4.10GHz+%284.40GHz+Turbo%29+Socket+FM2+Quad-Core+Unlocked+Processor+?productId=55739]It's on sale in the UK already[/url]
A trailer for an APU. Now I've seen everything.
[QUOTE=Dantai;40896207][url=http://www.aria.co.uk/SuperSpecials/Other+products/AMD+%28Richland%29+A10-6800K+4.10GHz+%284.40GHz+Turbo%29+Socket+FM2+Quad-Core+Unlocked+Processor+?productId=55739]It's on sale in the UK already[/url][/QUOTE] well shit...
[QUOTE]According to the graph, the 4.4GHz chip is capable of running Sim City at 93 frames-per-second at 1080p at max settings without the aid of a discrete GPU.[/QUOTE] That is fucking cool.
This video gives me a neat idea for a game. The closer you get to losing, the worse the game performs. Can you counter the exponential failure-curve? Or will you succumb to the inevitable program crash?
Trailer looked like some twisted as fuck Darwinia sequel.
Well, those things did represent cores so it makes sense :v:
[url=http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113331]Newegg has it for $159[/url] AMD, please stop it. I promised myself that I wouldn't buy more computer parts this year ; _ ;
AMD seems to be sticking to the portion of the market that is satisfied with integrated graphics. And they've actually done well for that this time. Good for really cheap builds, I suppose. But it's not going to be comparable to a decent Intel build with a good graphics card. edit: Oh, that's cool, apparently you can use it together with another AMD card kind of like crossfire, that's interesting.
Wow, this is actually really great for budget builds, if it runs better than a GT630. Instead of buying a cpu and gpu which would in total cost 3x this price, you get both and it can run bf3 on medium and stuff.
AMD write a story, of course the lead characters are cores
I wonder if this will support Hybrid Crossfire.
Wondered what "HSA Optimization" was, guess it automatically figures out what to "Send" the computations to, whether to the GPU or the CPU.
[QUOTE=Makol;40896384]I wonder if this will support Hybrid Crossfire.[/QUOTE] It does.
can they be used in tandem with gpus and actually still get the huge benefit from the cpu? just so i understand what this is
Getting TRON: Legacy vibe from that video. Also that style looks like it can be a neat video game.
[QUOTE=soulharvester;40896503]It does.[/QUOTE] Now I'm interested. Hopefully someone posts benchmarks of this APU in Hybrid Crossfire. I assume it'll be supporting the 7000 series and not the 8000 series.
Oh fuck off AMD, just bought Haswell. Too little too late.
Without a GPU? Sweet mercy, this is going to be expensive [editline]4th June 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Dantai;40896207][url=http://www.aria.co.uk/SuperSpecials/Other+products/AMD+%28Richland%29+A10-6800K+4.10GHz+%284.40GHz+Turbo%29+Socket+FM2+Quad-Core+Unlocked+Processor+?productId=55739]It's on sale in the UK already[/url][/QUOTE] It can't be that cheap, what the heck?
This Tron 2 trailer looks cool. Can't wait to see it in theaters.
While the IGP may be better, the CPU itself is still based on Bulldozer and has the same problems as its predecessors. It still lies about the number of cores it has (the A10-6800K has two cores, not four as advertised) and the performance improvements still come mostly from clock speed increases. It also still has poor single thread performance. At the $150 price point, you can get an Ivy Bridge dual core that would thoroughly outperform it, just with a weaker IGP. So it basically comes down to do you need a better IGP and a weaker CPU, or a stronger CPU and a weaker IGP. I have an A8-5600K in use as a media server, and while it is nice on certain things, the heat and power consumption are big minuses. The stock heatsink can't keep up with it at full load and the APU starts overheating.
[QUOTE=S31-Syntax;40896325]Trailer looked like some twisted as fuck Darwinia sequel.[/QUOTE] I saw it as 4 armored guys fighting a giant turian like thing with energy whips to the soundtrack of tron
[QUOTE=kidkiller745;40896625]Without a GPU? Sweet mercy, this is going to be expensive [editline]4th June 2013[/editline] It can't be that cheap, what the heck?[/QUOTE] AMD gear is always cheap, they aren't jews like Intel.
[QUOTE=SGI Onyx;40896960]AMD gear is always cheap, they aren't jews like Intel.[/QUOTE] Intel is working with gates down to 22 nm, which is much smaller than AMD's 32 nm. Intel's also improving their processors in different ways, like having a dedicated set of hardware for each "core" where as every two "cores" in bulldozer tend to share processing resources. Improving the power draw for the entire system (What their main goal of Haswell was), while maintaining and also improving processing power. [QUOTE=bohb;40672500]The first thing you need to understand about AMD FX CPUs is that they lie through their teeth about what they are. The octa cores, don't have 8 cores, the hexa cores don't have 6 cores and the quads aren't quads either. It's a PR marketing gimmick based on the fact that a Bulldozer "core" has the ability to process two threads at once, but it's nothing like having two real cores. Here's the internal structure of an "octa core" Bulldozer: [img]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ec/AMD_Bulldozer_block_diagram_%288_core_CPU%29.PNG/727px-AMD_Bulldozer_block_diagram_%288_core_CPU%29.PNG[/img] Notice how it only has four real cores? The AMD marketing department decided it would be a good idea to call it an 8 core processor because if you notice it has two integer units per core (means it can process two threads at the same time.) But processing two threads at the same time means that unlike a real 8 core processor, each thread shares resources with the other thread in the core. This can cause massive slowdowns if both threads are fully loaded, and means that one thread can't fully utilize the entire core because something will always be running on another thread. . . . The only Bulldozer parts that are worth anything are the APUs on the FM2 socket, and only for specific tasks like office machines or media PCs.[/QUOTE] AMD can only compete in the low to mid-tier market when you can't put down enough money for both a good processor and GPU. If you're able to put down $900 or more bucks, you'll be able to get more out of it going with haswell and a good GPU. Though that only really matters if you're doing resource intensive things on it regularly, if you're building a sibling or relative who doesn't really do heavy computing a budget PC, AMD is a good option to consider. It also makes it suitable for large businesses who need moderately powerful computers to drop into 30-40 cubicles per floor for support or sales staff. Though they'll typically make a large deal with a company to get cheap machines en-masse (Hi Dell!). Then there's other deals that they're fighting over, such as whether or not they can get their products onto the mobile market, which is currently what they're attempting to do. And while it benefits laptops, their main goal is to become much more battery-friendly so as to make Apple and Android companies consider using their processors in their product lines.
video sound familiar, Mass Effect sequel?
[QUOTE=soulharvester;40897023] It also makes it suitable for large businesses who need moderately powerful computers to drop into 30-40 cubicles per floor for support or sales staff. Though they'll typically make a large deal with a company to get cheap machines en-masse (Hi Dell!).[/QUOTE] You won't be seeing AMD machines in cubicles any time soon, Dell has Intel discounts which AMD can't afford to give with their much lower margins. Also most cubicle workers will never use more power than the HD Graphics 4000+ can give.
[QUOTE=GiGaBiTe;40896692]While the IGP may be better, the CPU itself is still based on Bulldozer and has the same problems as its predecessors. It still lies about the number of cores it has (the A10-6800K has two cores, not four as advertised) and the performance improvements still come mostly from clock speed increases. It also still has poor single thread performance. At the $150 price point, you can get an Ivy Bridge dual core that would thoroughly outperform it, just with a weaker IGP. So it basically comes down to do you need a better IGP and a weaker CPU, or a stronger CPU and a weaker IGP. I have an A8-5600K in use as a media server, and while it is nice on certain things, the heat and power consumption are big minuses. The stock heatsink can't keep up with it at full load and the APU starts overheating.[/QUOTE] Well let's just hope steamroller is a better improvement.
AMD should stick to making GPUs
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