• Police warn drug users as two clubbers taken critically ill
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"Source" [url]http://content.met.police.uk/News/Police-warn-drug-users-as-two-clubbers-taken-critically-ill/1260269351167/1257246745756[/url] [quote]Police in Islington are warning drug users about the dangers of a potentially fatal substance after two clubbers were taken seriously ill in Fabric Nightclub in Islington over the weekend. The two victims are believed to have taken MDMA (Methylenedioxymethamphetamine) a highly toxic stimulant known on the streets as a variant of Ecstasy. Detective Superintendent Adrian Usher from Islington Borough said: "MDMA is a stimulant drug and its effects are unpredictable. "Over this last weekend we have had two incidents at this nightclub where two people are in a critical condition in hospital. We know they had taken Ecstasy and that this batch of drugs could be available in other locations across London. "All drug taking involves an element of risk. Users need to be aware that a potentially fatal batch of ecstasy is out there and understand the devastating effect it can have on their health. Drug dealers are only interested in making money so users can never be really sure what they are taking. "I strongly advise people to be cautious and if they have purchased any ecstasy recently to destroy it." If you have any information that can help police in their investigations contact the CID in Islington on 020 7421 0196 or call police on 101.[/quote] What a dumb load of scaremongering.
[quote] The two victims are believed to have taken MDMA (Methylenedioxymethamphetamine) a highly toxic stimulant known on the streets as a variant of Ecstasy.[/quote] I love that part, MDMA is the safest part of ecstasy, the most dangerous is the heroin or meth that the pills are cut with. MDMA is a euphoriant, not a stimulant. The meth in pills is what fucks people up big time.
Meh, they are kinda right about buying drugs that are mixed by dubious characters, but at least they aren't bashing weed this time.
And this is why I just stick to smoking weed. Rated dumb for having a drug preference? My you guys are mature.
I was under the impression that MDMA wasn't particularly toxic in the doses you'd need to get a kick off it, then again I haven't a clue what it's normally cut with.
well ecstasy can kill you first usage, so yeah.
Yup MDMA is highly toxic, so THATS why it's being investigated to treat autism. Great journalism.
Shit must have had some shitty RC in it, no doubt.
[QUOTE=OrionChronicles;31469598]well ecstasy can kill you first usage, so yeah.[/QUOTE] If youre a dumbass. If someones really concerned they can get a test kit.
[QUOTE=OrionChronicles;31469598]well ecstasy can kill you first usage, so yeah.[/QUOTE] The fuck are you on about. [QUOTE=Artemis;31469368]I love that part, MDMA is the safest part of ecstasy, the most dangerous is the heroin or meth that the pills are cut with. MDMA is a euphoriant, not a stimulant. The meth in pills is what fucks people up big time.[/QUOTE] While you're mostly right no-one would cut exstacy with heroin. They're completely different and if anyone tried to snort them you'd probably kill your customers (which kind ends up with your ass in jail). The two people mentioned were probably idiots who got dehydrated due to dancing.
this is why if you wanna roll you should just find molly and not look for shitty rolls
[QUOTE=Callius;31469631]The fuck are you on about. While you're mostly right no-one would cut exstacy with heroin. They're completely different and if anyone tried to snort them you'd probably kill your customers (which kind ends up with your ass in jail).[/QUOTE] What? I know people that snort heroin, but the problem with snorting ecstasy is the fact that it tends to have meth in it. A time released dose of meth all insulated at once is quite dangerous. Most people that buy pure MDMA snort it so it will hit them faster anyhoo.
[QUOTE=OrionChronicles;31469598]well ecstasy can kill you first usage, so yeah.[/QUOTE] you first usage
[QUOTE=OrionChronicles;31469598]well ecstasy can kill you first usage, so yeah.[/QUOTE] REAL ecstasy is incredibly safe, what you need to look out for is shit cut by shitty dealers with mephedrone or pipe cleaner or something in it. I can guarantee that if you buy tabs off of candy ravers you'll be fine, I can guarantee that they've already tested the batch they are selling.
i laughed at "highly toxic stimulant". also they probably died from drinking too much/too little water.
Most habitual drug users are aware of the dangers of Ecstacy is not taken with proper care. I've never taken it, but I know the consequences if you aren't careful.
[QUOTE=- Livewire -;31469384]And this is why I just stick to smoking weed.[/QUOTE] I tried many drugs and I find weed quite strong brainwasher compared to other drugs.
[QUOTE=Artemis;31469679]REAL ecstasy is incredibly safe, what you need to look out for is shit cut by shitty dealers with mephedrone or pipe cleaner or something in it. I can guarantee that if you buy tabs off of candy ravers you'll be fine, I can guarantee that they've already tested the batch they are selling.[/QUOTE]Bah, can't even trust those guys anymore. I got a couple pills from a longtime friend, ended up being methylone.
[QUOTE=BurningPlayd0h;31469606]Yup MDMA is highly toxic, so THATS why it's being investigated to treat autism. Great journalism.[/QUOTE] To be honest, there's lots of medicine that's highly toxic too, but it has it's uses. I understand most of the toxic would come not from the MDMA but rather from a rather unrefined process somewhere along the line. (i think anyway). But that doesn't mean it's bad journalism to warn people that others have already died from a lethal batch.
Good job government. Because you refuse to regulate drugs, people are dying. Of course, this is nothing new.
[QUOTE]Drug dealers are only interested in making money so users can never be really sure what they are taking.[/QUOTE] Because killing their customers is a great way to make money.
[QUOTE=Artemis;31469659]What? I know people that snort heroin, but the problem with snorting ecstasy is the fact that it tends to have meth in it. A time released dose of meth all insulated at once is quite dangerous. Most people that buy pure MDMA snort it so it will hit them faster anyhoo.[/QUOTE] I don't get what part of my post you're replying to, I said ecstasy isn't likely to be cut with heroin, I didn't mention meth or what can make ecstasy dangerous at all.
[QUOTE=OrionChronicles;31469598]well ecstasy can kill you first usage, so yeah.[/QUOTE] so can water
So in a world of prohibition people go to the hospital, jail, or to their grave because they weren't aware of what they were getting, and in a world without it people would know what they were getting and not goto the hospital, jail, or their grave. Even if people had a bad reaction to a drug and had to be taken to the ER, the doctor's job would be so much easier because they wouldn't have to guess what the drug was cut with.
X can be dangerous, but only when it's cut with other substances. Which is why we should legalize and regulate it, that way we can prevent shit like this from happening.
Every time I've been with a friend while they're on MDMA they're totally fine. I haven't done it but it doesn't seem to do much at all. The people here almost definitely dehydrated. You're supposed to drink lots of water (and OJ) while on x. Yeah a lot of the time x is cut with other stuff too, people should be careful with what they put in their bodies.
[QUOTE=Artemis;31469368]I love that part, MDMA is the safest part of ecstasy, the most dangerous is the heroin or meth that the pills are cut with. MDMA is a euphoriant, not a stimulant. The meth in pills is what fucks people up big time.[/QUOTE] The pills wouldn't be cut with heroin, and I doubt methamphetamine prices are low enough to make it economic. Probably just some similar but cheaper MDx analogues. In addition, MDMA is a stimulant. It is called Methylenedioxymeth[B]amphetamine[/B] for a key reason, and likewise is located within the amphetamine class. At a probable toxicity of 10-20 mg/kg, MDMA is not particularly toxic (for pharmaceuticals anyway). Probably just your typical polydrug abuse, especially alcohol. [editline]2nd August 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=(P!);31471457]The people here almost definitely dehydrated. You're supposed to drink lots of water (and OJ) while on x. [/QUOTE] Consumption of alcohol significantly magnifies the likelihood of dehydration at raves with MDMA usage. [editline]2nd August 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=OrionChronicles;31469598]well ecstasy can kill you first usage, so yeah.[/QUOTE] so can salt if you ingest it by the kilogram kind of a meaningless statement there bud
[url]http://dancesafe.org/products/testing-kits[/url] Stay safe out there, kids.
[QUOTE=Contag;31471742]The pills wouldn't be cut with heroin, and I doubt methamphetamine prices are low enough to make it economic. Probably just some similar but cheaper MDx analogues. [/QUOTE] Some tabs are cut with heroin though, you can get a calm euphoria if that's what you're into. Meth is also pretty fucking cheap, that's why rednecks do it :p
Just get a test kit, and if anything they're probably mostly pipers these days
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