Republicans bash Obama's 2013 Budget without reading it
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[release] WASHINGTON - President Barack Obama's election-year budget plan is already being attacked by Republicans in Congress — even before they receive it.
Obama's budget aims to achieve $4 trillion in deficit reduction over the next decade by restraining government spending and raising taxes on the wealthy. To help a weak economy, Obama's proposal to be announced Monday requests increases in transportation, education and other areas.
While administration officials on Sunday defended the plan as a balanced approach, Republicans belittled the effort as a repeat of failed policies that did too little to attack soaring costs in such programs as the Medicare health program for the elderly and threatened growth by raising taxes.
The debate is almost certain to go all the way to Election Day in November with gridlock keeping Congress from resolving many pressing issues on expiring tax cuts and across-the-board spending cuts until a lame-duck session at year's end.
Obama's spending blueprint for the budget year that begins Oct. 1 projects a deficit for this year of $1.33 trillion. That would mean four straight years of trillion-dollar-plus deficits.
The budget will project a decline in the deficit to $901 billion in 2013 and continued improvements shrinking the deficit to $575 billion in 2018.
Republicans said Obama's plan was a stark reminder that the Democratic president had failed to meet the pledge he made after taking office in 2009 to cut the deficit in half by the end of his first term.
But Jack Lew, Obama's chief of staff, said the administration had to contend with a deep recession and soaring unemployment that had driven the deficits higher than anyone anticipated. He said Obama's plan would cut the deficit below 3 per cent of gross domestic product by 2018, to levels that economists generally view as sustainable.
He said faster deficit cuts now would set back an economy still struggling with high unemployment. Lew, Obama's former budget chief, also said it was critical that Congress agree to extend a payroll tax cut due to expire at the end of February. Failure to extend it, he said, would cause another hit to the economy.
"I think there is pretty broad agreement that the time for austerity is not today," Lew said during a series of appearances on Sunday television talk shows. "Right now we have an economy that's taking root ... austerity measures right now would take the economy in the wrong way."
Republicans in the House of Representatives are preparing their version of Obama's budget that will propose sharper reductions in government entitlement programs such as Medicare while avoiding any tax increases.
Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky said Senate Democrats did not want to vote on Obama's spending plan, so he would once again put it forward for a Senate vote where he predicted it would fail as it did last year.
Lew blamed House Republicans for pushing extreme measures rather than trying to reach consensus with Democrats and avoid the kinds of last-minute crises that roiled financial markets in 2011, such as the summer showdown over raising the government's borrowing limit.
According to a White House fact sheet, Obama's budget will adhere closely to the approach he outlined in September in a submission to the congressional "supercommittee" that failed to agree on at least $1.2 trillion in additional spending cuts to keep across-the-board cuts from taking effect next January.
The Obama budget sticks to the caps on annual appropriations approved in August that will save $1 trillion over the next decade. It also puts forward $1.5 trillion in new taxes, primarily by allowing the Bush-era tax cuts expire at the end of this year for families making $250,000 or more per year.
Obama, as he has in the past, also proposed eliminating tax deductions the wealthy receive and would also put in place a rule named for billionaire Warren Buffett that would seek to make sure that households making more than $1 million annually pay at least 30 per cent of their income in taxes.
Obama would also impose a new $61 billion tax over 10 years on big banks aimed at recovering the costs of the financial bailout and providing money to help homeowners facing foreclosure on their homes. It would raise $41 billion over 10 years by eliminating tax breaks for oil, gas and coal companies and claims significant savings from ending the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Lew said the budget would cut spending by $2.50 for every $1 in extra taxes it seeks.
Among the areas targeted for increases, Obama is proposing $476 billion in increased spending on transportation projects including efforts to expand inner-city rail services.[/release]
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My knowledge on US Politics is limited at best, but am I right in thinking Republicans are the stupid ones? Just like over here in the UK there's ... well all of 'em are shite but still.
[QUOTE=LuckyLuke;34678813]My knowledge on US Politics is limited at best, but am I right in thinking Republicans are the stupid ones? Just like over here in the UK there's ... well all of 'em are shite but still.[/QUOTE]
The republicans are known for being incredibly selfish and ignorant.
Not speaking for all of them, but all of the major candidates are hilariously stupid.
This really doesn't surprise me.
A story about republicans being dumbshits?
In other news, the sky is blue. More at eleven.
Oh US politics, never stop being so funny.
Do they just vote against anything Obama does or something?
[QUOTE=Rents;34678887]Do they just vote against anything Obama does or something?[/QUOTE]I'm pretty sure they'll vote against preventing Armageddon if Obama proposes it.
[QUOTE=ExplodingGuy;34678936]I'm pretty sure they'll vote against preventing Armageddon if Obama proposes it.[/QUOTE]
"He wants to stop the 'Armageddon', but he's satan, so how can we trust him?"
It's funny how they're just looking at the deficit, and disregard the circumstances or the fact they're blocking him at every fucking turn.
oh come [I]ON...[/I] I don't like our president either and even [I]I[/I] liked this budget better than any shit you fucks in congress were coming up with.
[editline]13th February 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=Fatfatfatty;34678865]A story about republicans being dumbshits?
In other news, the sky is blue. More at eleven.[/QUOTE] No its not, I'm blocking that vote from getting to congress. Sky isn't blue, Sky is [I]God[/I] colored, duh.
This bothers me so much...I know it's the same thing every time, but how can they be so selfish as to hold the country hostage by refusing to sign OBVIOUSLY good bills and measures? How are our these people our leaders??
Are they really going to curse a budget that lowers our deficit so significantly? How can they justify that without even seeing it yet.
[QUOTE=Bassplaya7;34679270]This bothers me so much...I know it's the same thing every time, but how can they be so selfish as to hold the country hostage by refusing to sign OBVIOUSLY good bills and measures? How are our these people our leaders??[/QUOTE]
It's because the entire system is broken to the core. The electoral college, campaign funding, even how the votes are counted.
Obama is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't...
Not going to say this is completley unfair, but the title is slightly sensationalist. Even though the report isn't out yet, Obama has given talks on what he plans to do ahead of time already so the Republicans have a general idea of what's coming toward them. It's not like the Republicans don't know anything about this budget.
But they could still have waited to read the damn thing to make an argument for whatever.
[QUOTE=LuckyLuke;34678813]My knowledge on US Politics is limited at best, but am I right in thinking Republicans are the stupid ones?[/QUOTE]
Yes.
[QUOTE=LuckyLuke;34678813]My knowledge on US Politics is limited at best, but am I right in thinking Republicans are the stupid ones? Just like over here in the UK there's ... well all of 'em are shite but still.[/QUOTE]
Moronic would be a more fitting term.
[QUOTE=ExplodingGuy;34678936]I'm pretty sure they'll vote against preventing Armageddon if Obama proposes it.[/QUOTE]
Preventing Armageddon is a job for private industry, not Obama's socialist big government
We need to kick these people out of office.
Seriously they have no respect for the process of law, they just want to turn us into a fucking empire.
How are they even politics?
So god damn stupid.
With this policy of not agreeing with anything Obama does, Republicans have backed themselves into a corner. It's at the point where there's nothing they can say that isn't just utter crap.
Hopefully the general election will go smoothly and with their approval rating this worthless mess of a Congress will get cleared out.
I've noticed that the GOP keeps blaming Obama for not doing anything.
Isn't Congress under a Republican majority? Maybe that's why anytime Obama sends a proposed bill to congress, nothing happens. And when bad things happen it's his fault.
[QUOTE=Protocol7;34680988]I've noticed that the GOP keeps blaming Obama for not doing anything.
Isn't Congress under a Republican majority? Maybe that's why anytime Obama sends a proposed bill to congress, nothing happens. And when bad things happen it's his fault.[/QUOTE]
People are too stupid to realize Congress is a separate entity from the President.
News: "In other news, Congress has failed to pass legislation that-"
Viewer: "Obama betrayed us!"
[QUOTE=Fort83;34681421]Is anyone even surprised?
The GOP openly stated that there number 1 priority is to make sure Obama doesn't have a second term, by any means necessary. They clearly do not care for the american people, they are just racist, homophobic, ignorant morons that want nothing more than to finish what their ancestors never finished in the dark ages. Republicans are the american equivalent of Gaddafi, the only difference is they haven't had the opportunity or the power to kill people, power that they are slowly gaining.
I don't understand why you guys don't revolt and run the republicans out of the country, burning torches and waving pitchforks. The world wants you to do it. You want to do it. It's what is needed.
Victory through blood.[/QUOTE]We're all Commie Socialist Islamic Atheist Pacifist Bums. We won't hurt a fly unless it is the jobs of good, hard working, god-fearing white Americans.
[editline]13th February 2012[/editline]
Seriously though, it's because everyone wants to avoid violence by any means. We want to take a peaceful route to reach a good resolution and avoid bloodshed for as long as possible.
The Civil Rights Movement is probably the biggest example of how nonviolence can work, but also the Women's Suffrage movement and the Anti-War movement during Vietnam. This big issue is just how deeply entrenched these problems are in our government now.
[QUOTE=Fort83;34681525]As if peaceful means have worked at all. Look at history, when does peaceful acts create big change in a corrupt nation? It's always been through bloodshed and sacrifice. As bad as it sounds, violence seems to be the only option to work. Peaceful means won't change anything. No offence but grow some grapes america.[/QUOTE]
The rebels or whatever would probably be horribly and instantly slaughtered by the military and law enforcement.
[QUOTE=Fort83;34681977]Not when the majority of them agree with the opposition. And you really think they would want to kill the people?[/QUOTE]Mm, yeah. Many people just follow orders blindly because they don't know what else to do. That's why you see problems all over the world. If this weren't the case, you wouldn't have the problems is Libya, Iran, Syria, Egypt, and the other or things like the My Lai Massacre.
[QUOTE=Fort83;34682249]I agree with the part about following orders, to an extent. The military and law enforcement are people too. They will be tormented with the order to kill fellow americans. Chances are, a lot will deflect or refuse to obey orders, if they aren't already siding with the rebels[/QUOTE]
Now the problem is uprooting all the complacent idiots in our country who would rather let this country die then to miss an episode of American Idol or whatever dumbfuck shit they're eyeballs are glued to.
It's sad how the american govermental bodies are more based on debating the best and not the nation's best.
in this time of age where US politics consists of shit flinging, and who can fling the most shit at eachother wins.
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