I hope this is in the right section, if not then sorry.
From a young age I was always persuaded by my family to join the Royal Navy AS AN ENGINEER, but I gave up on the idea around a year ago because I was afraid to lose everyone, including my girlfriend at the time.
Well it's only this week that I've been tempted to join up again. Me and my girlfriend broke up and she overreacted a lot and phoned the police, and now when she tells people her bullshit story they're all going to hate me. And apart from that, I've not really got much to lose, I'd miss my family and a few of my closer friends, but right now when I'm just in the same place day in day out with no job, its making me depressed, and I also get lonely as Hell.
There's also no jobs going around in my area, so it is really hard to find anything that's worth it, and the salary in the Navy is pretty good in my opinion.
In not really sure about it all though, and that's why I'm asking for help. Like after my basic training I won't be able to leave for 5 years, I'll be 24 at that point, and the thing is with me, I'm a guy who really likes having a girlfriend, and I'm afraid in case of if I do join up then it would be really hard to keep a relationship with a civilian due to being gone for long amounts of time.
I know that it would be a really good experience and such, but five years is such a long time to give up of your life, but I'm afraid if I don't do it then there wont be many options left for me.
So thank you for reading this, and hopefully someone can post their personal or experiences of people that they know in order to help me make a decision.
It's better to follow your dreams then to set them aside for another person. It's you that truly matters in the long run. Don't miss your chance so you'll only regret it in the future. I don't know how the Royal Navy operates but if someone you care about is in the way I would just talk to them and tell them that's what you want to do. Sometimes you have to put your feelings aside to do the things you really want to do with your life.
Joining the army as an engineer is always a good choice. Follow your heart, if you want to be an engineer in the royal navy, go for it. Pursue your dreams.
It's not even setting them aside for anyone else now, I will never get back together with my ex, she just fucked me over. My family would be proud to see me go, and I'm not even that close to my friends, let alone people aren't going to like me when my ex says I assaulted her and such.
So really there's nothing much to live for around here anymore, there's just something putting me off joining up and I can't tell what it is. I think it's that I'll be 24 when I come out, 5 years is a lot.
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[QUOTE=Dr Ben Dover;41846198]Joining the army as an engineer is always a good choice. Follow your heart, if you want to be an engineer in the royal navy, go for it. Pursue your dreams.[/QUOTE]
I wouldn't join the Army, I feel that the Navy is just way safer.
Joining the Navy as an engineer is an excellent decision imo. After you leave you have skills that can land you a decently cushy job! If you feel like marketability over your preferences, consider doing Aircraft maintenance engineering. It's 5 maintenance engineers to a single plane. Furthermore, if you work for an airline after the airforce, most will give you extremely (I get 90%) discounted flights to anywhere in the world, using that airline or their partners. It's also a bit more safe. I'm not discounting the navy as a good choice though. I just have a bias towards planes because i think they're the coolest fucking thing around.
[QUOTE=AltUser;41846225]It's not even setting them aside for anyone else now, I will never get back together with my ex, she just fucked me over. My family would be proud to see me go, and I'm not even that close to my friends, let alone people aren't going to like me when my ex says I assaulted her and such.
So really there's nothing much to live for around here anymore, there's just something putting me off joining up and I can't tell what it is. I think it's that I'll be 24 when I come out, 5 years is a lot.
[editline]15th August 2013[/editline]
I wouldn't join the Army, I feel that the Navy is just way safer.[/QUOTE]
Wait.. I didn't read your whole post. When exactly did she call the police? If they haven't talked to you yet bro your most likely going to jail. I just got out of jail for 3 months, now I'm on probation for a bullshit story my ex gave to the police. Please tell me they just brushed it off as bullshit and haven't tried to make any contact with you. Because if this just happened today and they don't know where you are their will most likely be a warrant for your arrest tomorrow. Unless you live outside of the United States that is because domestic violence laws vary between countries/states I'm pretty sure.
[QUOTE=White;41846261]Wait.. I didn't read your whole post. When exactly did she call the police? If they haven't talked to you yet bro your most likely going to jail. I just got out of jail for 3 months now I'm on probation for a bullshit story my ex gave to the police. Please tell me they just brushed it off as bullshit and haven't tried to make any contact with you. Because if this just happened today and they don't know where you are their will most likely be a warrant for your arrest tomorrow. Unless you live outside of the United States that is because domestic violence laws vary between countries/states I'm pretty sure.[/QUOTE]
He lives in the Uk. A magical place where the domestic violence laws aren't fucking retarded, where the man can never be the victim and all the judge needs is a testimony.
[QUOTE=White;41846261]Wait.. I didn't read your whole post. When exactly did she call the police? If they haven't talked to you yet bro your most likely going to jail. I just got out of jail for 3 months, now I'm on probation for a bullshit story my ex gave to the police. Please tell me they just brushed it off as bullshit and haven't tried to make any contact with you. Because if this just happened today and they don't know where you are their will most likely be a warrant for your arrest tomorrow. Unless you live outside of the United States that is because domestic violence laws vary between countries/states I'm pretty sure.[/QUOTE]
I'll keep it as short as possible. What happened was it was 2AM, we had an argument, I didn't want her to ring her mother because it was OTT and her mother wouldn't let us see each other again.
My ex always had anger issues and could never handle her emotions espcially when drunk and when it's the time of the month (which it was)
So I hid her phone, and tried to calm her down, to stop her getting the phone I held her back, and the most I did was grabbed her. None of this was with intention to harm her.
The police came to my door and arrested me for assault. Basically everyone on the police force, including the woman taking my statement says she went over the top over something so small, but in the end I got cautioned.
But I know for a fact she will start telling people I assaulted her.
Oh, and I got pressured into taking a caution because otherwise my ex could have taken it to court, and I wasn't up for the hassle.
[editline]15th August 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=The Aussie;41846260]Joining the Navy as an engineer is an excellent decision imo. After you leave you have skills that can land you a decently cushy job! If you feel like marketability over your preferences, consider doing Aircraft maintenance engineering. It's 5 maintenance engineers to a single plane. Furthermore, if you work for an airline after the airforce, most will give you extremely (I get 90%) discounted flights to anywhere in the world, using that airline or their partners. It's also a bit more safe. I'm not discounting the navy as a good choice though. I just have a bias towards planes because i think they're the coolest fucking thing around.[/QUOTE]
I'm struggling what area of engineering to go in.
There's either aircraft, weaponry (not likely), or engineering technician.
Right now I'm trying to find the one that would give me the best chance of a job when I leave.
[QUOTE=AltUser;41846301]I'll keep it as short as possible. What happened was it was 2AM, we had an argument, I didn't want her to ring her mother because it was OTT and her mother wouldn't let us see each other again.
My ex always had anger issues and could never handle her emotions espcially when drunk and when it's the time of the month (which it was)
So I hid her phone, and tried to calm her down, to stop her getting the phone I held her back, and the most I did was grabbed her. None of this was with intention to harm her.
The police came to my door and arrested me for assault. Basically everyone on the police force, including the woman taking my statement says she went over the top over something so small, but in the end I got cautioned.
But I know for a fact she will start telling people I assaulted her.
Oh, and I got pressured into taking a caution because otherwise my ex could have taken it to court, and I wasn't up for the hassle.
[editline]15th August 2013[/editline]
I'm struggling what area of engineering to go in.
There's either aircraft, weaponry (not likely), or engineering technician.
Right now I'm trying to find the one that would give me the best chance of a job when I leave.[/QUOTE]
Sounds almost exactly like my story except I actually went to jail and their was no evidence and my bail was a quarter million dollars. Now I'm on probation for 3 years and owe the court $3,000 with 52 weeks of DV classes and 50 hours community service and also no consumption of alcohol until I'm 23 and a half. I wasn't even under the influence when they picked me up they just went off what she said because woman don't like in California apparently and the 'incident' happened two days before she called the police. The luck you get for not living in this 'free' country.
That is absolutely disgusting, I really feel for you man.
Join the Navy, see the world and get paid to do it.
On the other hand you could get a nice career, on the other hand you're kinda running away from your social problems which is not ok.
I have been interested in joining in the past, as I have said. And now my social problems have given me that extra push to want to join up, because I have nothing much to stay for.
[QUOTE=AltUser;41845987]I hope this is in the right section, if not then sorry.
From a young age I was always persuaded by my family to join the Royal Navy AS AN ENGINEER, but I gave up on the idea around a year ago because I was afraid to lose everyone, including my girlfriend at the time.
Well it's only this week that I've been tempted to join up again. Me and my girlfriend broke up and she overreacted a lot and phoned the police, and now when she tells people her bullshit story they're all going to hate me. And apart from that, I've not really got much to lose, I'd miss my family and a few of my closer friends, but right now when I'm just in the same place day in day out with no job, its making me depressed, and I also get lonely as Hell.
There's also no jobs going around in my area, so it is really hard to find anything that's worth it, and the salary in the Navy is pretty good in my opinion.
In not really sure about it all though, and that's why I'm asking for help. Like after my basic training I won't be able to leave for 5 years, I'll be 24 at that point, and the thing is with me, I'm a guy who really likes having a girlfriend, and I'm afraid in case of if I do join up then it would be really hard to keep a relationship with a civilian due to being gone for long amounts of time.
I know that it would be a really good experience and such, but five years is such a long time to give up of your life, but I'm afraid if I don't do it then there wont be many options left for me.
So thank you for reading this, and hopefully someone can post their personal or experiences of people that they know in order to help me make a decision.[/QUOTE]
Shit, if you really WANT to do it then go for it, I mean if you have more than 1 reason or whatever then sure why not if its what you want to do. But don't make one of those reasons "my girlfriend is going to break up my friendships or whatever" That doesn't sound like a great reason to me.
[QUOTE=AltUser;41846301]I'll keep it as short as possible. What happened was it was 2AM, we had an argument, I didn't want her to ring her mother because it was OTT and her mother wouldn't let us see each other again.
My ex always had anger issues and could never handle her emotions espcially when drunk and when it's the time of the month (which it was)
So I hid her phone, and tried to calm her down, to stop her getting the phone I held her back, and the most I did was grabbed her. None of this was with intention to harm her.
The police came to my door and arrested me for assault. Basically everyone on the police force, including the woman taking my statement says she went over the top over something so small, but in the end I got cautioned.
But I know for a fact she will start telling people I assaulted her.
Oh, and I got pressured into taking a caution because otherwise my ex could have taken it to court, and I wasn't up for the hassle.
[editline]15th August 2013[/editline]
I'm struggling what area of engineering to go in.
There's either aircraft, weaponry (not likely), or engineering technician.
Right now I'm trying to find the one that would give me the best chance of a job when I leave.[/QUOTE]
If she did tell people you assaulted her can't you sue her for defamation?
I know that it seems like you don't want to let this get bigger, but this is something that could really ruin relationships with friends etc.
I know my real friends will understand me.
And can I just clear up that the whole thing about my ex and everything isn't the sole reason for me wanting to join.
There are a lot of reasons why I want to join, and the thing stopping me before was that I didn't want to leave people behind, but that is no longer a problem to me.
I just want to make sure I'm making the right decision, because its a huge one to make.
[QUOTE=AltUser;41846301]I'll keep it as short as possible. What happened was it was 2AM, we had an argument, I didn't want her to ring her mother because it was OTT and her mother wouldn't let us see each other again.
My ex always had anger issues and could never handle her emotions espcially when drunk and when it's the time of the month (which it was)
So I hid her phone, and tried to calm her down, to stop her getting the phone I held her back, and the most I did was grabbed her. None of this was with intention to harm her.
The police came to my door and arrested me for assault. Basically everyone on the police force, including the woman taking my statement says she went over the top over something so small, but in the end I got cautioned.
But I know for a fact she will start telling people I assaulted her.
Oh, and I got pressured into taking a caution because otherwise my ex could have taken it to court, and I wasn't up for the hassle.
[editline]15th August 2013[/editline]
I'm struggling what area of engineering to go in.
There's either aircraft, weaponry (not likely), or engineering technician.
Right now I'm trying to find the one that would give me the best chance of a job when I leave.[/QUOTE]
This sounds EXACTLY like Whites story.
Except, well, he went to jail.
Feel sorry for the guy.
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Learn science technology?
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Study oceanography?
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But don't you worry 'bout a thing
For I'm sure there will be always a good navy
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[QUOTE=AltUser;41848532]I know my real friends will understand me.
And can I just clear up that the whole thing about my ex and everything isn't the sole reason for me wanting to join.
There are a lot of reasons why I want to join, and the thing stopping me before was that I didn't want to leave people behind, but that is no longer a problem to me.
I just want to make sure I'm making the right decision, because its a huge one to make.[/QUOTE]I'm only 15 so maybe my advice won't be the best but I say go for it, if you really have thought through why you want to be in the navy (e.g. you love boats or whatever) then go for it, definitely make sure that you know what you are about to get yourself into because from what i've heard once you're in the Navy you can't just leave. Also never let people burden you unless these people are really special.
As I said my advice might not be the best but I think that this is what you should do :)
Joining the military as a last resort sounds like the worst possible reason to do it. It's a huge commitment and you should only do it if it's what you're passionate about.
But, isn't navy like, teeming with homos?
You know, there's hardly any women on the seas.
[QUOTE=hakimhakim;41854253]But, isn't navy like, teeming with homos?
You know, there's hardly any women on the seas.[/QUOTE]
After a couple months you learn that any ass will do.
you should probably take that question over to the "Thinking of Joining The Military" thread.
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But ill help save you some time. There is nothing anyone on here can say or do that will answer your question. You have to figure that question out yourself. Go talk to a recruiter, listen to what they say, look up what they say and double check it, ask some veterans you know about their time and life-style, and than sit down and think really hard "is that something i want to do" after you look at it from all the angles you can from an outside perspective.
If you aren't sure join the territorial army, its not as big a commitment and it'll help you decide if thats the sort of life you want to live.
[QUOTE=hakimhakim;41854253]But, isn't navy like, teeming with homos?
You know, there's hardly any women on the seas.[/QUOTE]
Dreams come first, women second. You'll get tons of ass in when you're home in that nice navy suit, also
[video=youtube;InBXu-iY7cw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InBXu-iY7cw[/video]
Just remember how they separate the men from the boys in the Navy
[sp]with a crowbar.[/sp]
Yes dude.
Join.
:downs:
Don't do it just to run away. I'd wait until you're over all the angst about the relationship first before making any big decisions like joining the navy.
Just forewarning you, there's like a 2 year waiting list for a lot of Navy jobs, unless you join RM.
Consider the reserves and the RFA too.
[QUOTE=AltUser;41846225]
I wouldn't join the Army, I feel that the Navy is just way safer.[/QUOTE]
You shouldn't throw the Army out of consideration, it's safer than you might think, and probably a lot quicker/easier to join than any other force.
Sure, there's dangerous jobs in the Army, but then there's dangerous jobs in all the forces. And if, heaven forbid, we did engage in naval combat against another country, you'd certainly be a lot less safe at sea.
And if it's Afghanistan you're worried about, Navy Engineers get sent there too!
Most of the time its the environment/atmosphere in the hometown that might make you feels like wanting to abandon everything. Maybe try to move/live/do small job somewhere far from your town a for little bit, then rethink the whole thing. Might put things in perspective when theres no immediate pressure/feeling of being persecuted.
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