• One Tasered Grandma, and several pepper-sprayed kids later, the Baytown police department has some e
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[url="http://www.chron.com/neighborhood/bayarea/crime-courts/article/Baytown-police-say-family-locked-officers-in-5471750.php#photo-6291995"]Chron[/url] [url="http://www.click2houston.com/news/protesters-march-on-baytown-police-department/25929354"]KPRC Houston (Updated Video)[/url] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5YmnZHU9Ec[/media] [quote]Baytown police are denying allegations of excessive force and racism leveled by guests at a house party where seven people were arrested after officers answered a loud music complaint there around midnight May 4. Much of the incident was recorded on cell phone video released Sunday. Police say two officers warned homeowner Jose Zepeda earlier that evening that neighbors had complained about loud music. When they returned around midnight, Det. Edgar Elizondo says the officers found Zepeda in his backyard with 15-20 partygoers, and wrote him a ticket for disturbing the peace. Elizondo says Zepeda refused to sign the citation, and the officers attempted to arrest him. Elizondo says three men stepped in to stop them: Rodolfo Zepeda, 19, Edgar Garcia, 24, and 23-year-old Christian Zepeda. "From that point on, the three men started pushing the officers, assaulting the officers. Therefore one of the officers pulled out pepper spray and sprayed one time," Elizondo said. When the officers used pepper spray on the men, two of them ran into the house, Elizondo says, and the officers followed them. Once inside, police say someone locked the door behind the officers. "You basically had a couple of officers inside trapped, fighting with people," said Elizondo.[/quote] Two sides of every story.
gotta love cops.
[QUOTE=The golden;44800345]People who throw loud parties late at night are fucking scum.[/QUOTE] what other time would you have it
[QUOTE=Death_God;44800409]what other time would you have it[/QUOTE] 6:00 - 10:00
[QUOTE=Zenreon117;44800253]Two sides of every story.[/QUOTE] As if cops havent lied to cover their asses before
I hate it when reporters over exaggerate words and put emphasis on words that don't need to be emphasised. I also find it funny how the reporter in the video implies the cops just bust down the door and started tasering everyone without warrant.
[QUOTE=LZTYBRN;44800464]As if cops havent lied to cover their asses before[/QUOTE] Not like regular ol' citizens, we always tell the truth.
[QUOTE=Death_God;44800409]what other time would you have it[/QUOTE] I say you can have it any time, but if it's a time where the majority of people are trying to catch some sleep for work/school/whatever tomorrow, I say take it somewhere else where it wouldn't disturb them. A little bit of courtesy for anyone not involved. Of course, no one HAS to (and probably wouldnt) but it would be nice. Sure, loud night parties are fun to be at, until you're at the other end of it, trying to sleep or concentrate while someone near you is making a shitload of noise so you can't.
[quote]Rodolfo Zepeda, 19, Edgar Garcia, 24, and 23-year-old Christian Zepeda.[/quote] Kids?
[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;44800598]Not like regular ol' citizens, we always tell the truth.[/QUOTE] It's pretty damn scummy to tazer an old woman.
[QUOTE=The golden;44800345]People who throw loud parties late at night are fucking scum.[/QUOTE] People who don't tell their neighbors about upcoming loud parties are scum
[QUOTE=SuperDuperScoot;44800630]I say you can have it any time, but if it's a time where the majority of people are trying to catch some sleep for work/school/whatever tomorrow, I say take it somewhere else where it wouldn't disturb them. A little bit of courtesy for anyone not involved. Of course, no one HAS to (and probably wouldnt) but it would be nice. Sure, loud night parties are fun to be at, until you're at the other end of it, trying to sleep or concentrate while someone near you is making a shitload of noise so you can't.[/QUOTE] Welcome to society. That's how parties work. Instead of calling the cops like a weenie the complainant should have just gone and asked them to quiet down in person. Calling the cops is practically threatening and only escalated the situation.
[QUOTE=reedbo;44800691]Calling the cops is practically threatening and only escalated the situation.[/QUOTE] I'd say that ignoring a warning and then refusing to comply escalated the situation.
[QUOTE=reedbo;44800691]Welcome to society. That's how parties work. Instead of calling the cops like a weenie the complainant should have just gone and asked them to quiet down in person. Calling the cops is practically threatening and only escalated the situation.[/QUOTE] No actually I think you are supposed to ask the people living around you before you have a loud party. Also, I don't know if you have ever met people before, but not everybody takes as kindly to that, and it would be 'safer' to remain anonymous
[QUOTE=OvB;44800659]Kids?[/QUOTE] the grandma looked to be in her 40's from the video.
[QUOTE=Midas22;44800676]People who don't tell their neighbors about upcoming loud parties are scum[/QUOTE] hey bob I just wanted to let you know we're tearing the fucking roof off saturday night and you're not invited
They were just pissed they weren't invited.
[QUOTE=gokiyono;44800780]No actually I think you are supposed to ask the people living around you before you have a loud party. Also, I don't know if you have ever met people before, but not everybody takes as kindly to that, and it would be 'safer' to remain anonymous[/QUOTE] I'm pretty sure you don't have to tell any of your neighbors that you're throwing a party. The responsible thing for the part host would be to not be so goddamn loud that someone has to call the cops on you. The responsible thing to do if you're not the host is to inform the host that their party is too loud and kindly ask them to turn it down, if they have a problem with that [B]then[/B] you call the cops. Why must everyone escalate a situation that can be resolved by talking about it?
[QUOTE=reedbo;44801063]I'm pretty sure you don't have to tell any of your neighbors that you're throwing a party. The responsible thing for the part host would be to not be so goddamn loud that someone has to call the cops on you. The responsible thing to do if you're not the host is to inform the host that their party is too loud and kindly ask them to turn it down, if they have a problem with that [B]then[/B] you call the cops. Why must everyone escalate a situation that can be resolved by talking about it?[/QUOTE] Why are you so insistent on claiming that calling the cops caused it to escalate?
[QUOTE=reedbo;44801063]I'm pretty sure you don't have to tell any of your neighbors that you're throwing a party. The responsible thing for the part host would be to not be so goddamn loud that someone has to call the cops on you. The responsible thing to do if you're not the host is to inform the host that their party is too loud and kindly ask them to turn it down, if they have a problem with that [B]then[/B] you call the cops. Why must everyone escalate a situation that can be resolved by talking about it?[/QUOTE] When you aren't thinking how what you do could affect other people, you are the irresponsible one, because you are potentially disturbing your neighbours in holding a loud party.
[QUOTE=gokiyono;44801173]When you aren't thinking how what you do could affect other people, you are the irresponsible one, because you are potentially disturbing your neighbours in holding a loud party.[/QUOTE] I understand that. While that may be true it's also the responsibility of the person being bothered to address the issue personally, as a neighbor, instead of escalating the situation by involving the police. [editline]13th May 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;44801117]Why are you so insistent on claiming that calling the cops caused it to escalate?[/QUOTE] Because calling the cops for an issue that could be resolved neighbor to neighbor is [B]only[/B] going to escalate it. You're telling me that if the cops weren't called that this would have still happened? The police did everything they should have, the people that attacked the police and refused to sign the citation should be charged, 100%. Calling the police is like using explosives to put out a fire, refrain from involving the police in all matters unless necessary or else you're just asking to involve lethal force and the law.
[QUOTE=reedbo;44801370]I understand that. While that may be true it's also the responsibility of the person being bothered to address the issue personally, as a neighbor, instead of escalating the situation by involving the police. [editline]13th May 2014[/editline] Because calling the cops for an issue that could be resolved neighbor to neighbor is [B]only[/B] going to escalate it. You're telling me that if the cops weren't called that this would have still happened? The police did everything they should have, the people that attacked the police and refused to sign the citation should be charged, 100%. Calling the police is like using explosives to put out a fire, refrain from involving the police in all matters unless necessary or else you're just asking to involve lethal force and the law.[/QUOTE] And when the cops come to your house the first time and say, "Hey, keep it down." that's your cue to shut the fuck up or take it elsewhere. When they come back and you try to fight, it's on you, the idiot who tried to fight some cops responding to a citizen's complaint.
I hate how that protester turned it into a racist thing. Not everything is fucking racist, jesus christ
[QUOTE=outlawpickle;44801547]And when the cops come to your house the first time and say, "Hey, keep it down." that's your cue to shut the fuck up or take it elsewhere. When they come back and you try to fight, it's on you, the idiot who tried to fight some cops responding to a citizen's complaint.[/QUOTE] Well no shit Sherlock, I wasn't arguing against that.. If someone doesn't respect the police then eventually they're going to get it from them no doubt. My argument was about calling the police for stupid shit like this, especially when almost everyone would oblige you if you personally addressed the issue.
[QUOTE=Starce;44801576]I hate how that protester turned it into a racist thing. Not everything is fucking racist, jesus christ[/QUOTE] did you watch the [I]entire[/I] video? the people who were throwing the party said that the cops were calling them "wetbacks" granted they could be lying but that justifies the race thing
[QUOTE=reedbo;44801578]Well no shit Sherlock, I wasn't arguing against that.. If someone doesn't respect the police then eventually they're going to get it from them no doubt. My argument was about calling the police for stupid shit like this, especially when almost everyone would oblige you if you personally addressed the issue.[/QUOTE] The types of people who don't listen to the cops will not give a shit about their neighbors. They were already warned, not because the cops felt like warning them but because the cops received complaints from their neighbors to shut the fuck up, they ignored it thus ignoring the complaints of their neighbors, it's not hard to put 2 and 2 together. What world do you live in?
[QUOTE=LZTYBRN;44801613]did you watch the [I]entire[/I] video? the people who were throwing the party said that the cops were calling them "wetbacks" granted they could be lying but that justifies the race thing[/QUOTE] If you watch the video from the 2nd source (which I couldn't link to facepunch) you will see that the cops defense to that is that they were saying "Get back!" "Get back!"
[QUOTE=outlawpickle;44801639]The types of people who don't listen to the cops will not give a shit about their neighbors. They were already warned, not because the cops felt like warning them but because the cops received complaints from their neighbors to shut the fuck up, they ignored it thus ignoring the complaints of their neighbors, it's not hard to put 2 and 2 together. What world do you live in?[/QUOTE] I live in a world with other human beings that have feelings and can understand others. What's the point in living in society if you're just going to turn around and act like you're isolated from others. Maybe if people would go out and meet their neighbors and act like humans then shit like this wouldn't happen. If you went and confronted your neighbors about their party and they blew you off then there's plenty of reason to call the police. It just shouldn't be the first step.
[QUOTE=reedbo;44801719]I live in a world with other human beings that have feelings and can understand others. What's the point in living in society if you're just going to turn around and act like you're isolated from others. Maybe if people would go out and meet their neighbors and act like humans then shit like this wouldn't happen. If you went and confronted your neighbors about their party and they blew you off then there's plenty of reason to call the police. It just shouldn't be the first step.[/QUOTE] Yeah, keep living in that fantasy. People are dicks, people are assholes, and the ones who aren't will give you fair warning about a big party, invite you, give you some kind of heads up. It's perfectly okay to call the police because they're not evil stormtroopers unless you're an idiot. You think calling the police is immediately calling in lethal force, and that's fucking retarded logic. A cop's last desire is to use any kind of force, they gave these people fair warning, they even were going to let the guy go with a fucking citation. That's nothing, and they gave the people every opportunity to be reasonable.
[QUOTE=outlawpickle;44801776]Yeah, keep living in that fantasy. People are dicks, people are assholes, and the ones who aren't will give you fair warning about a big party, invite you, give you some kind of heads up. It's perfectly okay to call the police because they're not evil stormtroopers unless you're an idiot. You think calling the police is immediately calling in lethal force, and that's fucking retarded logic.[/QUOTE] People who think like you are the reason the human race is so fucked. Not trusting others and believing that everyone has evil intentions. I'm not saying that calling the police is immediate lethal force, my point is that by calling the police you're escalating a situation that could be resolved by being a human and confronting your issues. I would bet that a good majority of people don't warn their neighbors when they're going to have a party but I would also bet that a good majority of those people would be willing to be quieter if you spoke to them about the noise issue. What's more threatening in your eyes, your neighbor asking you to quiet down or the police? The police aren't there to be nice, they're there to enforce the law and when necessary, use lethal force.
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