• Germany: Woman who refused ID to cop in sweatpants fined €8,500
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[QUOTE]When a plainclothes police officer tried to stop a woman from leaving a minor accident in a car park she wouldn’t believe he was a cop and almost ran him over trying to drive away. On a miserable winter's day in Karlsfeld, southern Bavaria, in January 2015 a gust of wind tore open a woman’s car door in a parking lot and slammed it into the next vehicle, Süddeutsche Zeitung reports. The owner of the car that was struck approached the 34-year-old architect and asked her to pay for the damages. But, seeing no damage with her own eyes, she tried to drive off. That was when a young man in a jumper and jogging bottoms stepped in. He claimed he was a police officer and showed her his ID to prove it. He had seen the events and wanted to see the woman’s papers. But she refused, not believing him to be a real officer. “What the hell do you take me for?” she told him as she got back into her car and started to drive away, a Munich regional court heard earlier this week. Judge Martin Hofmann said that the woman just driving away from the scene was “completely stupid.[/QUOTE] Source: [url]http://www.thelocal.de/20160721/woman-fine-plainclothes-police-officer-car-munich[/url]
Are there services to check a police ID online/by phone to make sure you're not about to be mugged/scammed/whatever by someone pretending to be police?
Going by the rest of the article she wasn't fined because she refused to show him her ID, but rather because she damaged a car and hit someone while "fleeing" the location
"What the hell are you gonna do fine me?", said woman fined.
[QUOTE=ReligiousNutjob;50749637]Are there services to check a police ID online/by phone to make sure you're not about to be mugged/scammed/whatever by someone pretending to be police?[/QUOTE] Just call 911 and ask dispatch.
Highlight of the article: [quote]She was convicted of minor aggravated battery and handed a €8,550 fine to be paid daily for 90 days as well as a two-month driving ban. Initially the fine stood at a meagre €5,600 to be paid over 70 days, but the architect, in her typically anarchistic way, refused to accept this.[/quote]
isn't 911 for emergencies only? doesn't the US have a non emergency number like we have 111
[quote]Judge Martin Hofmann said that the woman just driving away from the scene was “completely stupid.[/quote][quote]Richter Hofmann entgegnet, einfach wegzufahren, das sei doch "Entschuldigung - völlig verblödet".[/quote] [URL="http://www.sueddeutsche.de/muenchen/dachau/karlsfeld-ich-lass-mich-doch-nicht-verarschen-1.3084365"]Most of this is even better in German.[/URL] The English version translates some of the quotes to be a little more formal and polite than the original ones (but part of that is cultural difference I guess) :v:
[QUOTE=lintz;50749803]isn't 911 for emergencies only? doesn't the US have a non emergency number like we have 111[/QUOTE] Individual departments have non emergency line but there's no one number for it and it isn't always an answered line. If you can't find it on google you're SOL. Many smaller departments will just tell you to call 911.
[QUOTE=lintz;50749803]isn't 911 for emergencies only? doesn't the US have a non emergency number like we have 111[/QUOTE] This happened in Germany. You can call 112 if you need emergency services like anywhere else in the EU, and 110 will give you the police directly. That aside, I don't know of a low-priority number for police information, but calling 110 should be fine in a case like this especially since there was an accident.
[QUOTE=Firewarrior;50749659]Going by the rest of the article she wasn't fined because she refused to show him her ID, but rather because she damaged a car and hit someone while "fleeing" the location[/QUOTE] Typical hit and run.
[QUOTE=Levelog;50749867][QUOTE=lintz;50749803]isn't 911 for emergencies only? doesn't the US have a non emergency number like we have 111[/QUOTE] Individual departments have non emergency line but there's no one number for it and it isn't always an answered line. If you can't find it on google you're SOL. Many smaller departments will just tell you to call 911.[/QUOTE] I've heard you can call 911 and say "non-emergency" and they'll transfer you.
You can't drive away from the scene of an accident, no matter how minor. It doesn't matter if the dude was a cop or not, she fled the scene. Fine is warranted. Don't be a dick.
[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;50750179]You can't drive away from the scene of an accident, no matter how minor. It doesn't matter if the dude was a cop or not, she fled the scene. Fine is warranted. Don't be a dick.[/QUOTE] Also, you know, don't hit someone while trying to drive away from the scene. :v:
[QUOTE=lintz;50749803]isn't 911 for emergencies only? doesn't the US have a non emergency number like we have 111[/QUOTE] We do but it's a long standard number and they're local and honestly I don't know it because it's never been taught or brought up
How can they prove who she is if they don't have an ID?
[QUOTE=Sims_doc;50752419]How can they prove who she is if they don't have an ID?[/QUOTE] License plates and two witnesses, I'd assume.
"I can't give you my license officer..."
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