Well after windows seems to have failed me on my laptop, I thought about using linux, I have used linux before, on my server and on my mac, which was both times ubuntu. I have looked up my laptop and all the hardware is linux compatible and has proper drivers (even the wireless :buddy: ) that somebody is going to come in here and say "Linux is not for games, use windows nub" I also know that there is plenty of people that have steam running through wine/wine-doors/crossover (also which one of them should I use for steam?) This laptop is used for adobe, work, and steam
So which distro should I use? My choices are Debian, Gentoo, Unbuntu and openSUSE?
Thanks for any help given
Well if you're a newb to Linux, give these a try:
[url]http://www.pclinux.org[/url]
[url]http://www.sabayonlinux.org[/url]
Ubuntu is okay, has some minor security issues that I've read about, but I'd still try the above two as they run the best and are closer to a Windows OS, which would make it easy to transition into.
Having used Linux for a long time, I feel like I have enough experience to suggest those.
I'm an idiot which uses Fedora, yeah shoot me
If your a first goer, try out Ubunto and learn the basics of linux, mainly the command lines, because they are mostly Inter-Distro compatible
[QUOTE=ReznorT;16118437]I'm an idiot which uses Fedora, yeah shoot me
If your a first goer, try out Ubunto and learn the basics of linux, mainly the command lines, because they are mostly Inter-Distro compatible[/QUOTE]
ok that easier as I already have ubuntu on disc, thanks
[QUOTE=ReznorT;16118437]I'm an idiot which uses Fedora, yeah shoot me
If your a first goer, try out Ubunto and learn the basics of linux, mainly the command lines, because they are mostly Inter-Distro compatible[/QUOTE]
Meh Ubuntu isn't a good starting point contrary to popular belief.
Use PCLinux 09 or Sabayon 4 to start.
I said basics
Ubunto is more in depth and will give him the knowledge of the filesystems, directorys structures, basic command lines etc
[B]Ubuntu[/B] is what I started with and you could learn the same stuff on any other distro.
What I suggest is getting an SSH-account for some server and just playing around. Don't even need to reboot into an another OS to play around, just download putty and jack around.
[QUOTE=KrAzY_nikomo;16121253][B]Ubuntu[/B] is what I started with and you could learn the same stuff on any other distro.
What I suggest is getting an SSH-account for some server and just playing around. Don't even need to reboot into an another OS to play around, just download putty and jack around.[/QUOTE]
SHould I get the Jaunty Version, I have 8.04 on disc, is the new version any better?
also what shoudl I use for steam and directx9 support, Wine, WineDoors, or cross over linux?
[QUOTE=Sgt Pringles;16123224]SHould I get the Jaunty Version, I have 8.04 on disc, is the new version any better?
also what shoudl I use for steam and directx9 support, Wine, WineDoors, or cross over linux?[/QUOTE]
8.04 is getting kind of old, but if you already have it, use it. It's not hugely different from 9.04, it'll at least give you a feel for what Ubuntu is like. If you like it, you can download 9.04 and upgrade.
I'd just use Wine. I've never used Wine-doors, and Crossover costs $40.
To install Steam in Wine, since Steam's installer is a .msi, you have to use the command line. I think the command is something like:
[code]
wine msiexec /i SteamInstall.msi
[/code]
[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;16123327]8.04 is getting kind of old, but if you already have it, use it. It's not hugely different from 9.04, it'll at least give you a feel for what Ubuntu is like. If you like it, you can download 9.04 and upgrade.
I'd just use Wine. I've never used Wine-doors, and Crossover costs $40.
To install Steam in Wine, since Steam's installer is a .msi, you have to use the command line. I think the command is something like:
[code]
wine msiexec /i SteamInstall.msi
[/code][/QUOTE]
ok, Ill use wine then and Ill just download the 9.04 version
Don't use ubuntu. The best starting point is Mandriva.
[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;16123327]I've never used Wine-doors[/QUOTE]
Wine-doors is just a front-end for Wine. It automates the installs of most programs. For instance, if you install Steam, it downloads the Steam installer and runs it, then hits "next" at light speed until the install finishes, then downloads the Tahoma font. It's really pretty cool.
Watch out, though. The developer shut down the update servers without notice before. It might just stop working one day.
ITT: People forcing their favorite Linux distro onto other people.
@faze, yeah you sure seem like a pro, Sabayon is Gentoo based, which is not very user friendly, and is bloated to hell. I don't know PCLinuxOS but I'm pretty sure the userbase isn't very big.
[QUOTE=Denzo;16128400]ITT: People forcing their favorite Linux distro onto other people.
@faze, yeah you sure seem like a pro, Sabayon is Gentoo based, which is not very user friendly, and is bloated to hell. I don't know PCLinuxOS but I'm pretty sure the userbase isn't very big.[/QUOTE]
PCLinuxOS has a massive userbase, but it's ridiculously bloated.
Your avatar is... Tight.....
[editline]07:51AM[/editline]
Whats the latest version of Fedora?
You should just use Ubuntu as a learn-the-basics. It's a really good starting point. You'll learn the basics pretty quickly, unless you have some major problems learning, in which case you shouldn't really switch to Linux.
[QUOTE=ReznorT;16133557]Your avatar is... Tight.....
[editline]07:51AM[/editline]
Whats the latest version of Fedora?[/QUOTE]
The latest official release of Fedora is 11, according to their website.
SO which one should I go for? Mandriva? Fedora? Ubuntu? I have people saying use ubuntu, and people saying don't use ubuntu so I am a bit confused right now
If you can't decide yourself, don't bother. Seriously. It's something someone else can't decide for you.
[QUOTE=Sgt Pringles;16135209]SO which one should I go for? Mandriva? Fedora? Ubuntu? I have people saying use ubuntu, and people saying don't use ubuntu so I am a bit confused right now[/QUOTE]
Ubuntu is fine as a first distro. It holds your hand a bit more than Mandriva or Fedora. Some people say this is bad but in my opinion there is nothing wrong with it.
Mandriva is awesome, comes with everything pre-installed so you don't need to worry about drivers, flash and other stuff.
I still use Ubuntu after so many years, but the large userbase means lots of support and software.
Any top-5 distro should be fine for first time, SuSe had that special something.
Heres what I have and it says it is all compatible:
[quote]Name Acer Aspire 6935G
Processor Intel® Core™ 2 Duo processor T9xxx or P8xxx
Screen 16” WXGA (1366×768) or HD (1920×1080) Widescreen
RAM Up to 4GB DDR3 1066Mhz (Supports upto 8GB)
HDD Up to 500GB
Optical Drive DVD+-RW/Blu-Ray
Graphics NVIDIA® GeForce 9600M GS
Network Atheros Ethernet, Intel 5100/5300 802.11abgn, Broadcomm Bluetooth
Processor working
Screen working
HDD working
Optical Drive working
Graphics working
Sound working install latest alsa-driver snapshot and set model=acer-aspire-8930g
Ethernet working
Wireless working Need to install non-free firmware on some distros
Bluetooth working
56K Modem working
USB working
Card Reader partially working Card has to be inserted before booting linux
ExpressCard Slot working
[/quote]
Now I am worried about the sound not working as alot of people have trouble with it, also Im gonna need to learn what the "also-driver snapshot" stuff means and how to use it.
I have a copy of 9.04 Ubuntu installed and will start installing once I have backed up, I will use wine-doors as I found it easy to setup steam and other products quickly, (Does Directx9 work in wine? I don't want it all running in dx8 like it does on my mac with crossover )
[editline]07:56PM[/editline]
Ok Just downloaded all drivers and backing up stuff gonna be installing tonight
[QUOTE=Sgt Pringles;16139596]Heres what I have and it says it is all compatible:
Now I am worried about the sound not working as alot of people have trouble with it, also Im gonna need to learn what the "also-driver snapshot" stuff means and how to use it.
I have a copy of 9.04 Ubuntu installed and will start installing once I have backed up, I will use wine-doors as I found it easy to setup steam and other products quickly, (Does Directx9 work in wine? I don't want it all running in dx8 like it does on my mac with crossover )
[editline]07:56PM[/editline]
Ok Just downloaded all drivers and backing up stuff gonna be installing tonight[/QUOTE]
Install directx 9 via an app called winetricks
Ok ubuntu 9.04 is installed, wireless is working out of the box, nvidia drivers are installed, its updating and then ill do wine and the wine tricks mentioned above
[editline]10:56PM[/editline]
ok now steam gives me this:
"installation ended prematurely because of an error"
FFFFFFFUUUUUU-
Did you run the Wine Configuration application before running the Steam installer? If not, it should be in your applications menu under [b]Wine[/b]. Otherwise, run this in a terminal:
[code]winecfg[/code]
ok steam is working now, I have tf2/css/dod installing lets hope that they dont stop stop downloading like they did yesterday. also I think linux has saved my laptop :buddy: ill keep posting if I run into anymore trouble
[editline]10:26AM[/editline]
hmm when I install games and they download from steam, the bandwidth monitor goes to 0mb/s. Did anyone else get that problem?
You'll need to run steam in windows 2000 then when you want to launch a game switch it to windows 98.
Hmm having trouble with getting the sound to work, I have downloaded the driver and have run the install in terminal and it looked like it was doing alot and installing but after a reboot no sound is there
[editline]03:41PM[/editline]
Ok its now saying that I am not the owner so I cannot change any permissions, yet I am the only user on this laptop, Ill see if theres a option to make me owner somewhere
[editline]03:56PM[/editline]
Ah thats better I have made myself have all permissions now all that is left to do is fix the following:
Steam downloading cutting out after 5minutes, having to restart steam for it to download games fully
Get the damn sound to work
Havent tried games yet, hope they work after all this
[QUOTE=Sgt Pringles;16154982]Hmm having trouble with getting the sound to work, I have downloaded the driver and have run the install in terminal and it looked like it was doing alot and installing but after a reboot no sound is there
[editline]03:41PM[/editline]
Ok its now saying that I am not the owner so I cannot change any permissions, yet I am the only user on this laptop, Ill see if theres a option to make me owner somewhere
[editline]03:56PM[/editline]
Ah thats better I have made myself have all permissions now all that is left to do is fix the following:
Steam downloading cutting out after 5minutes, having to restart steam for it to download games fully
Get the damn sound to work
Havent tried games yet, hope they work after all this[/QUOTE]
When you run into the permissions thing, you have to stick sudo in front of your command.
sudo *some command*
Im trying to edit the alsa base file to add this that was metioned In another forum:
[quote]as root superuser :
in directory /etc/modprobe.d
create a file named alsa-base.conf
containing the following 2 lines :
alias snd-card-0 snd-hda-intel
options snd-hda-intel model=auto[/quote]
but it says I still dont have permissions?
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