• BREIN Faked Evidence Against The Pirate Bay
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[quote]In an attempt to make sure that Dutch citizens can’t access The Pirate Bay, BREIN took three of the tracker’s ‘founders’ to court. The anti-piracy outfit won the case and Fredrik, Gottfrid and Peter were ordered to block Dutch users, a decision they decided to appeal. This week the appeal was heard before the Amsterdam court. BREIN’s lawyer tried to convince the judge that the three are responsible for the site’s daily operations. Lawyer Ernst-Jan Louwers on the other hand represented the Pirate Bay defendants, arguing that BREIN sued the wrong people. In addition, Louwers revealed that BREIN brought in a credit report, apparently faked in an attempt to mislead the court. The report in question shows Fredrik Neij as the CEO of Seychelles-based Reservella, the company believed to own The Pirate Bay. This misstep by BREIN was pointed out to the court, and former Pirate Bay spokesman Peter Sunde later wrote a detailed article summing up the inconsistencies. Now, a few days later everyone can see for themselves that the report is not what its supposed to be. The documents prooving that the evidence presented by BREIN was false have now been exposed, on The Pirate Bay of course. The ‘leaked’ [url=http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/5118963]torrent[/url] [url=http://sharereactor.com/release/14392-leaked-docs-brein-vs-tpb.htm](mirror)[/url]contains the following information: - A fax of the Experian report as sent by BREIN. - A pdf version of the Experian report with the unedited footer. - A fax from Mossack Fonseca stating that they never acted as registered agent as the report claims. - A document from the authorities stating that the company registered with the ID 32549 is NOT Reservella. TorrentFreak contacted BREIN for a response to the alleged misstep, and director Tim Kuik told us that the Experian report was not used by their lawyer in court because there was already sufficient evidence that Fredrik, Gottfrid and Peter are responsible for The Pirate Bay. “Denying their responsibility and playing hide and seek is what the gentlemen of The Pirate Bay have been doing since they began their illegal business”, said Kuik. “We have sufficient reason to assume that they are still responsible.” “The company in the Seychelles looks like a thin veil to cover up what is really going on and it appears that they too like to play hide and seek just like the gents from The Pirate Bay,” he added. The lawyer for the defendants totally disagrees with BREIN’s assessment. Aside from BREIN’s alleged attempt to fabricate evidence, he told the court that the three defendants are not the owners of the site. Even if they were, The Pirate Bay in itself is not illegal because it’s merely one of many distribution platforms that are available on the Internet, the lawyer told the court. Whose side the court will take and whether or not the alleged attempt to manipulate evidence will be taken into account will be known in two weeks, when the appeal verdict is set to be announced.[/quote] :cawg: [url]http://torrentfreak.com/fabricated-anti-pirate-bay-evidence-leaks-onto-091011/[/url] I love it.
[I]Nice..[/i]
The Pirate Bay is definitely not going down after this.
Shit's weak, dawg. [editline]06:30PM[/editline] BREIN... I am disappoint.
I just hope i don't upset the Gree-Man for this thread [img]http://www.facepunch.com/fp/rating/heart.png[/img]
[QUOTE=venn177;17800241]The Pirate Bay is definitely not going down after this.[/QUOTE] You honestly believe the justice system is "just"?
[QUOTE=venn177;17800241]The Pirate Bay is definitely not going down after this.[/QUOTE] What? That still wouldn't happen.
I'm surprised they needed to fake evidence against them.
[QUOTE=Chrisordie;17800399]I'm surprised they needed to fake evidence against them.[/QUOTE] They're not breaking any laws.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;17800449]They're not breaking any laws.[/QUOTE] I'm gonna have to agree. The only thing they are truly doing wrong is storing links to downloadable content. No illegal files are stored on their servers. It's wonderful how that works too.
BREIN really needs to stop this shit, priracy will always be there, even if they knock down TPB they have released a copy of their tracker software, anyone can start a tracker with that.
The Pirate Bay can be thought of as a shipping port. People send and receive goods through the port, but the man who owns the docks is in no way responsible for whatever comes through. Sure it would be the "right" thing to do for him to increase security, but it is not his duty to enforce the laws. The same can be applied to The Pirate Bay. It is simply a medium.
A source plesae?
[QUOTE=trogdor6666;17800840]The Pirate Bay can be thought of as a shipping port. People send and receive goods through the port, but the man who owns the docks is in no way responsible for whatever comes through. Sure it would be the "right" thing to do for him to increase security, but it is not his duty to enforce the laws. The same can be applied to The Pirate Bay. It is simply a medium.[/QUOTE] Not even... Pirate bay is like a set of generic written instructions on how to obtain chemicals, and how to assemble them. Whose fault is it if someone makes crystal meth with the materials obtained by following the instructions? btw, saw the docs on wikileaks a few days ago.
Sad to see them stoop down to this. Didn't some companies hire in hackers to take down pirate bay a couple of years ago as well?
[QUOTE=Jugulum;17801497]Sad to see them stoop down to this. Didn't some companies hire in hackers to take down pirate bay a couple of years ago as well?[/QUOTE] I think it was a firm related to the RIAA, and if i remember correctly it was around 4 years ago. But it only took down TBP for 2 days.
Can't take TPB down now, they've got 10 feet of concrete and steel around them.
[QUOTE=FHamster;17801478]Not even... Pirate bay is like a set of generic written instructions on how to obtain chemicals, and how to assemble them. Whose fault is it if someone makes crystal meth with the materials obtained by following the instructions? btw, saw the docs on wikileaks a few days ago.[/QUOTE] Your analogies are all overly complicated. The Pirate Bay is like a library. In the library is a book on how to make explosives. Someone uses this book and blows something up. The library is not to blame. In fact, they're exactly like a library. That's all they do - index torrents.
[QUOTE=MS-DOS4;17801580]Can't take TPB down now, they've got 10 feet of concrete and steel around them.[/QUOTE] Yep, not even an EMP bomb can take their servers down now.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;17801725]Your analogies are all overly complicated. The Pirate Bay is like a library. In the library is a book on how to make explosives. Someone uses this book and blows something up. The library is not to blame. In fact, they're exactly like a library. That's all they do - index torrents.[/QUOTE] Here's another one. TPB is like a phonebook. The company who printed the phone book is not responsible if you call someone up and ask them to sell you drugs.
[QUOTE=Ishmael12;17800332]I just hope i don't upset the Gree-Man for this thread [img]http://www.facepunch.com/fp/rating/heart.png[/img] [highlight](User was banned for this post; reason("FUCK YOU!"-Greeman))[/highlight][/QUOTE] Fix'd And also, pirate bay, fuck yea.
I still don't see why The Pirate Bay got in trouble while Mininova and BtJunkie get off scotch clean..
[quote]I still don't see why The Pirate Bay got in trouble while Mininova and BtJunkie get off scotch clean.. [/quote] [b]The Pirate Bay[/b] <-- present this to a jury whenever a prosecutor is saying 'they're thieves'. Idiots will fall right into it and go 'oh so they're flaunting it even? guilty!' Well, okay, that's an oversimplification. But I believe that's a part of it.
:munch: The battle rages on...
[QUOTE=Firgof Umbra;17804146][b]The Pirate Bay[/b] <-- present this to a jury whenever a prosecutor is saying 'they're thieves'. Idiots will fall right into it and go 'oh so they're flaunting it even? guilty!' Well, okay, that's an oversimplification. But I believe that's a part of it.[/QUOTE] It's a name :(
The entertainment agencies are really getting desperate now. [editline].[/editline] Not that there's anything to get desperate about, the same thing happened when the VCR was popularized. OMG THEYRE GONNA CRASH THE ENTERTAINMENT INDUSTRY oh wait
Piracy still sucks.
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[QUOTE=Jugulum;17801497]Sad to see them stoop down to this. Didn't some companies hire in hackers to take down pirate bay a couple of years ago as well?[/QUOTE] "4chan.org... This place seems to have some mighty good hackers, eh?"
I love how the pirate bay gets all the heat, and then sites like btjunkie and dozens more are supplying the exact same torrents. Go figure.
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