• 74% of Pakistanis consider the United States to be an enemy
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[QUOTE]With most of the official relationship between the United States and Pakistan currently in tatters, a new poll shows Pakistani public opinion toward the U.S. in an equally distressing state. [B]As much as 74% of Pakistanis consider the United States to be an enemy, according to the survey conducted by the Pew Research Center's Global Attitude Project. The figure is up from 69% a year ago, and 64% three years ago, according to the organization.[/B] The survey comes at a time when the United States is working with the Pakistani government to negotiate the reopening of overland supply routes into Afghanistan after a NATO airstrike last November mistakenly killed 24 members of the Pakistani military. U.S. President Barack Obama fared no better in Pakistani public opinion, according to Pew. Of the 15 countries surveyed in both 2008 and 2012 in the same survey, Pakistan was the only country where [B]Obama rated no better than former President George W. Bush did during his final year in office.[/B] Coming roughly a year after the raid that killed Osama bin Laden in Abbottabad, Pakistan, some 7% said they had a positive view of Obama, the same figure Bush received in the 2008 survey. When it came to Pakistanis' general view of the relationship between Washington and Islamabad, 13% of those surveyed said relations between the two countries had improved in recent years, down 3 percentage points from the same time last year. [B]Similarly, only 45% of those surveyed said it is important for Pakistan to improve its relationship with the United States, down 15 percentage points from 2011.[/B] U.S. financial assistance to Pakistan also is not too popular with the Pakistani public, despite the fact the Pakistani government is one of the largest recipients of U.S. economic and military aid. Roughly four in 10 of those surveyed said such aid has a negative impact on their country, while only one in 10 viewed such aid as positive. [B]The controversial American drone program inside Pakistan rated poorly as well, with only 17% of those surveyed backing such strikes against leaders of extremist groups, even if the strikes are conducted in conjunction with the Pakistani government.[/B] The survey also found fewer Pakistanis want intelligence and logistical support from the United States, and fewer Pakistanis said they would be willing to work with the United States on efforts to combat extremist groups operating inside Pakistan. The face-to-face interviews for the survey were conducted with 1,206 respondents in Pakistan between March 28 and April 13 of this year, the Global Attitude Project said. Approximately 82% of the Pakistani population resides in the areas covered by the sample. Areas within the Federally Administered Tribal Areas, Gilgit-Baltistan, Azad Jammu and Kashmir were excluded from the survey for security reasons and instability, as were certain areas of Balochistan province and Khyber Pakhtunkhwa.[/QUOTE] Source: [url]http://security.blogs.cnn.com/2012/06/29/pakistani-view-of-u-s-reaches-new-low/[/url] Not surprising when you're unofficially at war within that country.
Yeah doesn't surprise me at all, the US has gone behind their back so frequently and vice versa. Tensions are very high.
why should the US give a damn
[QUOTE=Amplar;36575897]why should the US give a damn[/QUOTE] Pakistan is a nuclear power and can make the region very unstable, which is the opposite of the US wants. And of course, it's the US's right and desire to march in and make any region they desire 'stable'.
[QUOTE=johnlmonkey;36575794]Yeah doesn't surprise me at all, the US has gone behind their back so frequently and vice versa. Tensions are very high.[/QUOTE] Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the Pakistani government riddled with corruption and didn't they shelter (or at least individuals affiliated with the government) Osama Bin Laden? Honestly with a government like that I'm not surprised with the amount of fucks given.
[QUOTE=Pierrewithahat;36575964]Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the Pakistani government riddled with corruption and didn't they shelter (or at least individuals affiliated with the government) Osama Bin Laden? Honestly with a government like that I'm not surprised with the amount of fucks given.[/QUOTE] The poll isn't 74% of Pakistani government people dislike it America, it's the entire nation. Regardless of what corruption there is in their government, the US still has a large drone program inside their country to shoot militants. I'm sure the same people who dislike the US for that dislike their government for allowing it.
Pakistan has always been a bit of a mystery to me. As compared to India, the culture there is a considerably dulled down version of it, even though it was part of it 60+ years ago. That being said, the traditional music is still pretty damn good.
Pakistan may be dickholes either way, but to be fair they've got good reason to hate us when UAV operators playing Super Turbo Terrorist Hunter thousands of miles away keep killing their citizens
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;36575992]The poll isn't 74% of Pakistani government people dislike it America, it's the entire nation. Regardless of what corruption there is in their government, the US still has a large drone program inside their country to shoot militants. I'm sure the same people who dislike the US for that dislike their government for allowing it.[/QUOTE] Of course the Pakistani populace hates the US, they're dropping drone missiles left right and centre like it's nobodies business and killing people on their land, they're gonna fucking hate that.
There is nothing wrong with hating Amurrica, in fact more praise is given to those who do.
[QUOTE=AK'z;36576060]There is nothing wrong with hating Amurrica, in fact more praise is given to those who do.[/QUOTE] I'd prefer you hate my government and it's actions, not the country as a whole because that includes me who has done nothing to hurt others in other nations.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;36576079]I'd prefer you hate my government and it's actions, not the country as a whole because that includes me who has done nothing to hurt others in other nations.[/QUOTE] Way to blow my point out of proportion. The fact of the matter is, [I]you[/I] don't matter for America. The only worry your country has is status.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;36575992]The poll isn't 74% of Pakistani government people dislike it America, it's the entire nation. Regardless of what corruption there is in their government, the US still has a large drone program inside their country to shoot militants. I'm sure the same people who dislike the US for that dislike their government for allowing it.[/QUOTE] Sorry to pick you up on something that on the face of it looks small, but it's the percentage of Pakistanis that consider the US to be an enemy, not dislike. To consider the US an enemy doesn't neccessarily mean that they want to go to war with America, but (rather more likely), that they're fearful of attack due to cold relations and don't know whether they are working together and not. Defensive enemies as opposed to offensive, and they probably don't want to be enemies at all. They sound like victims of a bad US PR exercise to me.
Yeah um so why is foreign aid sill going there?
[QUOTE=POLOPOZOZO;36576243]Yeah um so why is foreign aid sill going there?[/QUOTE] to make up for the fact that the US keeps drone striking the shit out of the middle east taking away foreign aid from pakistan would be like pissing all over the dead bodies of the civilians the US has killed
[QUOTE=POLOPOZOZO;36576243]Yeah um so why is foreign aid sill going there?[/QUOTE] That's hardly gonna help relations is it?
What % of Americans view Pakistan as an enemy?
[QUOTE=Bobie;36576262]to make up for the fact that the US keeps drone striking the shit out of the middle east taking away foreign aid from pakistan would be like pissing all over the dead bodies of the civilians the US has killed[/QUOTE] So what you're saying is we're paying reparations. [editline]1st July 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Pierrewithahat;36576278]That's hardly gonna help relations is it?[/QUOTE] Fuck if you do fucked if you don't, might as well save the cash. [editline]1st July 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=NoDachi;36576301]What % of Americans view Pakistan as an enemy?[/QUOTE] whats a pakistan
[QUOTE=POLOPOZOZO;36576387]So what you're saying is we're paying reparations.[/QUOTE] after killing hundreds of thousands of civilians it would make sense
[QUOTE=NoDachi;36576301]What % of Americans view Pakistan as an enemy?[/QUOTE] I don't know but I'd think it probably coincides with the % of people in the US watching Fox News :v:
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;36575920]Pakistan is a nuclear power and can make the region very unstable, which is the opposite of the US wants. And of course, it's the US's right and desire to march in and make any region they desire 'stable'.[/QUOTE] Nukes arent a problem, they probably have their systems infected with some sorta malware to shutdown if things go for the worse.
[QUOTE=C47;36576465]Nukes arent a problem, they probably have their systems infected with some sorta malware to shutdown if things go for the worse.[/QUOTE] nukes are a problem because it means they have a huge say in regional politics.
[QUOTE=NoDachi;36576301]What % of Americans view Pakistan as an enemy?[/QUOTE] Good question. We need statistics people.
[QUOTE=C47;36576465]Nukes arent a problem...[/QUOTE] Well shit, we've been spending way to much time trying to convience Iran that they shouldn't develop them as weapons. I mean if they aren't a problem and all. Makes you wonder why Japan surrendered in 1945. Clearly not a problem. In other news: 74% of Americans can't find Pakistan on a map, 43% cannot pronounce "Nuclear" And 38% think Texas is larger than Alaska.
In all fairness everyone in the US thinks 100% of Pakistanis are terrorists. So i think we can take a 74 percent rating.
[QUOTE=Bobie;36576398]after killing hundreds of thousands of civilians it would make sense[/QUOTE] Because a dollar amount makes up for a family member's death. [editline]1st July 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=MR-X;36576682]In all fairness everyone in the US thinks 100% of Pakistanis are terrorists. So i think we can take a 74 percent rating.[/QUOTE] That doesn't really make it any better.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;36576700]Because a dollar amount makes up for a family member's death. [editline]1st July 2012[/editline] That doesn't really make it any better.[/QUOTE] i didn't say it would make up for a family members' death, but then the same argument is used against rehabilitation. there is nothing in this world that can bring back the dead and nothing that can avenge the family members; the only thing you can do is ensure that un-necessary deaths are never caused again.
[QUOTE=Bobie;36576398]after killing hundreds of thousands of civilians it would make sense[/QUOTE] hundreds of thousands huh If they're unable or unwilling to combat the militants that their northern region is harboring can you please explain to me why we should support them?
[QUOTE=Bobie;36576766]i didn't say it would make up for a family members' death, but then the same argument is used against rehabilitation. there is nothing in this world that can bring back the dead and nothing that can avenge the family members; the only thing you can do is ensure that un-necessary deaths are never caused again.[/QUOTE] Then the best thing for America to do is withdraw their drone attacks and war, not to just throw money at them without so much as a "sorry".
[QUOTE=Zakhodit;36576587]In other news: 74% of Americans can't find Pakistan on a map, 43% cannot pronounce "Nuclear" And 38% think Texas is larger than Alaska.[/QUOTE] So a large portion of a country's population is made up of idiots? Damn, too bad that isn't exclusive to the US.
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