Is making fun of 9/11 or the holocaust or any other horrible disaster okay?
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Personally, I feel it's absolutely disgusting. It's trivializing the lives lost, the families destroyed. For what, a stupid gif to get a quick laugh? "Lol, 6 million people got horribly slaughtered lets make a pun about it how funny XD!" I just don't understand how people can laugh about this sort of thing. What are your thoughts on it?
To me, it's the internet. What happens happens, and we can move on or overlook a joke a few people made. Some can laugh, some can be disgusted, but since this is the internet, it doesn't really matter.
All differs on the recipients taste in humour. I personally don't find them funny. But at 14 year old who watches a lot of family guy might.
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@[U][B]3:50[/B][/u]. This entire song is seriously the answer to this thread. People use jokes as a way to forget and move on, even though those jokes may be harmful to others.
Humor is largely involuntary. It's worthless to find it "disgusting" when in reality it's a highly complex process that's obviously funny for some reason.
Besides, it's hypocritical to pick and choose, pretty much every 90s cartoon had a Titanic episode for instance.
I don't agree with trivializing or downplaying losses after major events such as the examples in the title, but honestly I feel that people who are oversensitive to it are far worse, because they're making it seem like it's something we should never be able to move past. People that perpetuate and exaggerate the severity of events can often be the cause of unnecessary stigmas toward groups of people descended from those involved.
Intent is important. Very Important.
If someone told those jokes in real life I would be kinda worried for them but on the internet everything goes imo
Time probably matters, like the "My grandad died in the war." "oh how?" "Hell fell off the guard tower." in joke to Concentration and POW camp guards.
But I couldn't imagine a 9/11 similar joke being all that funny compared because it's recent.
Yes and no.
It really depends how you make a joke about it. Occasionally it can be good to lighten up such horrible, distressing, and tragic events so that people may cope with them. But of course, it should never be forgotten how truly dark those events are.
I personally don't think it's funny or ok to do so but either way the anonymity of the internet allows trolls to get away with it, as well as saying the N-word etc.
If it ever happened in real life it would incur an angry mob.
I think that given enough time, it stops being a problem - not because it's ok, but because anyone who'd have a serious emotional reaction to it is gone. Of course, with some disasters and atrocities, you still get people who take it seriously even though they weren't personally affected by it; for example, while there are still people alive who experienced the Holocaust or whose parents or other relatives went through it, people without such connections might be angered by Holocaust jokes because they're Jewish or they have a strong sense of justice or something like that. Same goes for 9/11, that's going to be a sore spot for a long time because it's recent and it involves a lot of things like American identity and such, while other things like the Titanic or Irish potato famine (idk, maybe there are some Irish folks who are still bitter about that, but it seems like they'd have more cause to be bitter about more recent events with the British) aren't really relevant or connected to today so they're fine for joke fodder.
Here's the thing: You can get away with a lot of jokes if it is clear that you are joking. The second that distinction blurs, your joke loses most if not all of it's potential of being funny.
Personally I think it's fine to joke about quite literally anything. Jokes don't hurt people, at worst they're simply not funny.
i think it's okay to make a joke about it as long as you do show some sort of sympathy for the situation. if you're just a horrible cunt who makes the joke purely for the shock factor or to offend people then it's not okay. but if you made a joke that actually had some wit to it and didn't base your entire sense of humor around dark tragedies then it shouldn't matter.
but people on the internet enjoy being offensive for the sake of offending.
Unless you actually go full retard and start making fun of real people and families and only ahow pictures of skyscrapers and plane it's fine to me
It's really complicated. While it can seem like a dick move, I think jokes are okay as long as careful consideration's taken as to who hears them. It's a lot better than everybody feeling bummed out about that matter for the rest of time. Similar to how soldiers who see a lot of nasty shit like to joke around while they're deployed, it's a lot better than being down forever.
It's fine if it's standup or you're with a group of people who like to make those jokes, but it's never alright to do it in casual conversation. I've seen people at parties crack a 9-11 joke in the middle of parties and it's never alright there where it can ruin an otherwise fine conversation.
all the jokes are done, they've all been said
anyone saying them now just looks like a dickhead
the jokes are as dead as the victims
the jokes are their own tragedy now
rip in peace
(they were never funny anyway btw)
Dark humor is a thing and it is widespread. Expecially so in the internet.
What matters the most, in my opinion, is the intent- Was it meant to provoke a reaction different than a laughter or a giggle? Was it purposedly offensive?
All these things considered, I think they shouldn't be taboo, but they should be delivered ''tastefully''- as in, in the right context and at the right time.
The only people who should get offended (and you probably shouldn't say those kinda jokes to) are people that are affected by it - but even then, if you can't take a joke then you're a pretty miserable person.
I'd probably say to people (except for the above) if you're offended by a holocaust joke or 9/11 joke etc. then you need to come back to reality and grow a spine
choose your audience, basically
As with most jokes there are the high brows and the low brows.
With regard to 911, jokes like "Lucky Larry" imply information to be learned, where as "hurr i drew barny flying into the tower" is pretty much the kinda person that likes Kan Ye West or Cheezburger sites. I think humor preference is sort of a metric for intelligence, better displayed than revealed later I suppose.
That said, I'm into neither, but there is something to jokes that require knowledge/thought and how they filter an audience.
EDIT: I think to sum this thread up, people that lulz at morbid topics aren't necessarily bad people, but they are deliberately being edgy. I'm okay with "look how edgy I am", so long as they have the haircut, sports tape, and black rim glasses to back it up on their tumblr.
either everything's funny or nothing's funny imo
[QUOTE=Trekintosh;45362602]It's trivializing the lives lost, the families destroyed.[/QUOTE]
Except whether or not something is trivial is completely subjective.
You can't tell me what to hold sacred - and if you get offended by the fact that some people don't care about the same things you do, you're just going to have to deal with it like an adult.
Most (good) humor uses a negative situation to create irony; Individually, there is nothing funny about plane crashes, children dying, or pedophilia in the church - but combine those three things in the right way and you create something absurd and ironic, which is more or less what humor is. If a joke is offensive to literally nobody, it's probably not very funny.
[QUOTE=Sector 7;45372579]combine those three things in the right way and you create something absurd and ironic, which is more or less what humor is.[/QUOTE]
Timmy, an 8 year old boy, was playing alone one day, when he heard a shout: "[B]Would you like to come inside!? I have [U]candy[/U]![/B]"
It was coming from the church across the field... It was the local priest shouting to him.
Timmy was delighted to hear about a free treat. He ran towards the church screaming: "[B]YAAAAAAAYYYYYYY!!!![/B]"
But thankfully, before Timmy could get close, a plane full of hundreds of screaming children crashed into the church and the priest. [I]Saving little Timmy's innocence for another day.[/I]
[QUOTE=Kardia;45374124]Timmy, an 8 year old boy, was playing alone one day, when he heard a shout: "[B]Would you like to come inside!? I have [U]candy[/U]![/B]"
It was coming from the church across the field... It was the local priest shouting to him.
Timmy was delighted to hear about a free treat. He ran towards the church screaming: "[B]YAAAAAAAYYYYYYY!!!![/B]"
But thankfully, before Timmy could get close, a plane full of hundreds of screaming children crashed into the church and the priest. [I]Saving little Timmy's innocence for another day.[/I][/QUOTE]
A priest, a rabi, and an elementary school group are on a plane. Suddenly, the engines heave and sputter - there's been a fuel leak. Everyone starts to panic.
The rabi turns to the priest as he straps on a parachute - "Quick, let's get out of here!"
The priest looks over and sees that there are only two parachutes. "What about the kids?!"
"Fuck the kids!" the rabi yells as he pulls open the door.
The priest frowns and scratches his chin. "Do you think we've got time?"
Oh just wait till 100 years from now. People would not even know the significance of the 9-11 attacks.
[QUOTE=Sector 7;45374169]The priest frowns and scratches his chin. "Do you think we've got time?"[/QUOTE]
That's a great joke, but I read it on reddit last night after searching your keywords.
Definitely better than my joke.
Every joke has the potential to offend someone. When people make jokes about 9/11 etc they aren't joking about the people themselves, they're almost turning it in to a fictitious event to be made fun of.
Just don't be a retard and start making holocaust jokes in a WW2 memorial service or jokes about 9/11 at ground zero and it's fine.
If you really get offended by one of these jokes you need to stop being such a pansy to be honest. Life is supposed to be funny - if you can't make jokes about it then it's downright depressing.
Only in the right context. And I really don't get the people that keep saying "hurr it happened recently" , it's been 13 years, literally more than a decade. The towers are long gone, the dust is long gone. Of all the arguments, this one has to be the most stupid.
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