CIA Chief: We’ll Spy on You Through Your Dishwasher
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[b]CIA Chief: We’ll Spy on You Through Your Dishwasher[/b]
[quote]More and more personal and household devices are connecting to the internet, from your television to your car navigation systems to your light switches. CIA Director David Petraeus cannot wait to spy on you through them.
Earlier this month, Petraeus mused about the emergence of an “Internet of Things” — that is, wired devices — at a summit for In-Q-Tel, the CIA’s venture capital firm. “‘Transformational’ is an overused word, but I do believe it properly applies to these technologies,” Petraeus enthused, “particularly to their effect on clandestine tradecraft.”
All those new online devices are a treasure trove of data if you’re a “person of interest” to the spy community. Once upon a time, spies had to place a bug in your chandelier to hear your conversation. With the rise of the “smart home,” you’d be sending tagged, geolocated data that a spy agency can intercept in real time when you use the lighting app on your phone to adjust your living room’s ambiance.
“Items of interest will be located, identified, monitored, and remotely controlled through technologies such as radio-frequency identification, sensor networks, tiny embedded servers, and energy harvesters — all connected to the next-generation internet using abundant, low-cost, and high-power computing,” Petraeus said, “the latter now going to cloud computing, in many areas greater and greater supercomputing, and, ultimately, heading to quantum computing.”
Petraeus allowed that these household spy devices “change our notions of secrecy” and prompt a rethink of “our notions of identity and secrecy.” All of which is true — if convenient for a CIA director.
The CIA has a lot of legal restrictions against spying on American citizens. But collecting ambient geolocation data from devices is a grayer area, especially after the 2008 carve-outs to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. Hardware manufacturers, it turns out, store a trove of geolocation data; and some legislators have grown alarmed at how easy it is for the government to track you through your phone or PlayStation.
That’s not the only data exploit intriguing Petraeus. He’s interested in creating new online identities for his undercover spies — and sweeping away the “digital footprints” of agents who suddenly need to vanish.
“Proud parents document the arrival and growth of their future CIA officer in all forms of social media that the world can access for decades to come,” Petraeus observed. “Moreover, we have to figure out how to create the digital footprint for new identities for some officers.”
It’s hard to argue with that. Online cache is not a spy’s friend. But Petraeus has an inadvertent pal in Facebook.
Why? With the arrival of Timeline, Facebook made it super-easy to backdate your online history. Barack Obama, for instance, hasn’t been on Facebook since his birth in 1961. Creating new identities for CIA non-official cover operatives has arguably never been easier. Thank Zuck, spies. Thank Zuck.[/quote]
Link: [url]http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/03/petraeus-tv-remote/[/url]
and a video for the lazy:
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrG1Na6qQ94[/media]
fuck
In Soviet Russia T.V. watches you!
I am good, I have no dishwasher
So basically this is 1984 we're going to be living in.
Neat!
It's incredible how far behind technology our civil liberties laws are.
[QUOTE=Keyblockor;35212423]So basically this is 1984 we're going to be living in.
Neat![/QUOTE]
Yeah, but there's a twist to it.
Red tape; Red tape everywhere!
It's pretty obvious, that any appliance connected to the internet or to a wi fi is abuseable.
In Capitalist America, dish washes you?
This is doubleplusungood.
I'll walk around the kitchen naked until they don't want to look anymore
They're probably going to sell these in Canada too :(
[QUOTE=Slacker996;35212517]I'll walk around the kitchen naked until they don't want to look anymore[/QUOTE]
If any of this stuff is in my house, they're going to see a lot of masturbating.
Looks like I'll have to hide my porn elsewhere
Jokes on you CIA, i don't have a dish washer.
But what if you take it apart and sell the camera on ebay/use it to stream things of promotional nature?
This is rather sensationalist, to be honest.
[QUOTE=gufu;35212542]But what if you take it apart and sell the camera on ebay/use it to stream things of promotional nature?[/QUOTE]
It's not just a camera. Basically it's saying the CiA will collect data from all of our WiFi enabled products, and installing tracking chips in or products; not really cameras as of now.
I don't get it, couldn't they always tap your phones and plant bugs?
Just put a post-it note over the camera?
[QUOTE]Petraeus allowed that these household spy devices “change our notions of secrecy” and prompt a rethink of “our notions of identity and secrecy.” All of which is true — if convenient for a CIA director.
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Wow, not only has the quote likely taken out of context, but then they also spun it so hard it broke the sound barrier.
This article is shit and reflects extremely poorly on Wired as a publication, it's taking a pittance handful of quotes from the Director of the CIA regarding technology and spying and turning it into
"CIA NOW ANNOUNCES IT WILL WATCH YOUR BABIES WHILE THEY SLEEP, USE KILLBOTS IF SEDITIOUS THOUGHT PATTERNS DETECTED"
The headline doesn't even make fucking sense. Why would your dishwasher be hooked up to the fucking internet? Do online compatible dishwashers even exist? Onion article headlines make more sense.
Time to buy and maintain old appliances.
Also, I wash my dishes by hand.
[QUOTE=Mingebox;35212605]I don't get it, couldn't they always tap your phones and plant bugs?[/QUOTE]
Planting bugs and tapping phones used to require an agent infiltrating your house. As technology advances it has become possible for intelligence agencies to place "bugs" remotely.
the internet seems to be concentrating power in the hands of the few, and in the hands of many. It's an interesting duality.
Gentlemen it's time.
[QUOTE=ExplodingGuy;35212561]This is rather sensationalist, to be honest.[/QUOTE]
It's far more significant than it looks. Imagine this becoming widespread and technology advancing to the point that they can put cameras/audio in these and instead of just using these on specific individuals, they just store all the information in a huge database.
Kind of like what they want to do with the internet.
[QUOTE=CommunistCookie;35213324]It's far more significant than it looks. Imagine this becoming widespread and technology advancing to the point that they can put cameras/audio in these and instead of just using these on specific individuals, they just store all the information in a huge database.[/QUOTE]
But now you're just making conjecture that George Orwell already made. This article is a sad sad joke.
[QUOTE=CommunistCookie;35213324]It's far more significant than it looks. Imagine this becoming widespread and technology advancing to the point that they can put cameras/audio in these and instead of just using these on specific individuals, they just store all the information in a huge database.
Kind of like what they want to do with the internet.[/QUOTE]
thing is I doubt they have the processing to reliably identify terrorist threats through these sources, simply because of the deluge of data.
Once again, CIA trying to establish its reputation.
Fucking love Panetta when he was the cia lead. His solution was much better then this appliance spying bullshit. He spied on people with Drones and predator missiles.
Why did the bride get a camera for her wedding?
So the dishwasher would match the other CIA appointed appliances.
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